Anonymous
Post 03/28/2019 13:21     Subject: Re:Updated: Luke Perry has a stroke -- has now passed away

Anonymous wrote:I am still thinking about him. I was such a fan when I was a kid and did read about what a genuinely nice guy he always was.



Same. It’s strange how much I am thinking about him.
Anonymous
Post 03/27/2019 23:39     Subject: Re:Updated: Luke Perry has a stroke -- has now passed away

I am still thinking about him. I was such a fan when I was a kid and did read about what a genuinely nice guy he always was.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2019 21:48     Subject: Updated: Luke Perry has a stroke -- has now passed away

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Leave it to DCUM to try and find some way to explain a tragedy that puts the blame squarely on the victim.

Ladies, I got news for ya: Everyone dies. You will die too, and when you do we will do our best to find a way to say "If only she had/hadn't done X, she would have lived forever."


dp Yes, we all know we will die but, there is a big difference between 52 and 85.


And sadly as much as we like to think it’s our choice, it’s actually not. Crap happens, and good people often die young through no fault of their own. That’s life. We’re so protected in so many ways, but not always and not in all ways. Some of us will die, some of us will lose loved ones, all far too young, and it will be no one’s fault. Life is a crapshoot. Some of us have been lucky so far, and for some of us, luck will run out soon. That’s just the way it goes.



Actually not quite true. You are trying to make things black and white. It is much more complex than that. Lifestyle issues such as drinking, smoking, unprotected sex, using drugs, eating bad fats, etc do absolutely increase our chances of early death. Genetic facts play a roll too. Risk taking plays a roll. This is not blame people and say it is their fault. Addictions, etc are hard to fight and genes can be pretty bad even if good lifestyle choices help. Your chances of dying before 60 are much lower if you were blessed genetically and lead a healthy life and didn't engage in major risk taking. If you ride bikes and motorcycles without a helmet and say skydive often your chance of early death may go up.

Sure you could be hit by a bus, but more likely if you are say jaywalking, riding a bike too close, etc. Yes, you are right, some people just run out of luck, but there is plenty you can control if you want to increase your chances of longevity.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2019 19:46     Subject: Updated: Luke Perry has a stroke -- has now passed away

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Leave it to DCUM to try and find some way to explain a tragedy that puts the blame squarely on the victim.

Ladies, I got news for ya: Everyone dies. You will die too, and when you do we will do our best to find a way to say "If only she had/hadn't done X, she would have lived forever."


dp Yes, we all know we will die but, there is a big difference between 52 and 85.


And sadly as much as we like to think it’s our choice, it’s actually not. Crap happens, and good people often die young through no fault of their own. That’s life. We’re so protected in so many ways, but not always and not in all ways. Some of us will die, some of us will lose loved ones, all far too young, and it will be no one’s fault. Life is a crapshoot. Some of us have been lucky so far, and for some of us, luck will run out soon. That’s just the way it goes.
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2019 08:53     Subject: Updated: Luke Perry has a stroke -- has now passed away

Anonymous wrote:Leave it to DCUM to try and find some way to explain a tragedy that puts the blame squarely on the victim.

Ladies, I got news for ya: Everyone dies. You will die too, and when you do we will do our best to find a way to say "If only she had/hadn't done X, she would have lived forever."


dp Yes, we all know we will die but, there is a big difference between 52 and 85.
Anonymous
Post 03/07/2019 06:35     Subject: Updated: Luke Perry has a stroke -- has now passed away

Anonymous wrote:The outpouring of tributes from fellow celebrities is very sweet. To a one, they stress his kindness and big heart. It seems we've lost a good one, on all levels. RIP, Luke Perry.


+1 It was all very touching to read, and universally people had nice things to say.
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2019 23:07     Subject: Updated: Luke Perry has a stroke -- has now passed away

Anonymous wrote:90210 was created by Darren Star class of 79 Churchill high. The show is based on Churchill and the characters on fellow students. I know who Andrea was. I think I know who Steve, Brandon and Brenda were. Pretty sure I know who Dylan was. Darren also created Melrose Place, Sex and the City and Younger. Churchill 20854 is a special school.



No kidding! I watched it religiously growing up. Do you think it was a fair representation of Churchill High back then? Of course, it's only a select few of that school, but still.
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2019 22:27     Subject: Updated: Luke Perry has a stroke -- has now passed away

Leave it to DCUM to try and find some way to explain a tragedy that puts the blame squarely on the victim.

Ladies, I got news for ya: Everyone dies. You will die too, and when you do we will do our best to find a way to say "If only she had/hadn't done X, she would have lived forever."
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2019 21:07     Subject: Re:Updated: Luke Perry has a stroke -- has now passed away

Anonymous wrote:Luke Perry was a heavy smoker; Marlboro Lights. Stroke risk is much higher in smokers; the heavier the smoking, the greater the risk.


If he was still smoking heavily, then it probably did play a role in his death.
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2019 18:45     Subject: Re:Updated: Luke Perry has a stroke -- has now passed away

Luke Perry was a heavy smoker; Marlboro Lights. Stroke risk is much higher in smokers; the heavier the smoking, the greater the risk.
Anonymous
Post 03/05/2019 19:24     Subject: Updated: Luke Perry has a stroke -- has now passed away

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I know we are all genuinely curious why he died, since it’s shocking when someone relatively young has a stroke.

Maybe it’s smoking or genetic or high blood pressure, I just wish there wasn’t an air of judgement to it. Like, ‘yep, smoking, that will get ya!’

He was a really awesome guy from what I hear and I think picking apart the cause of stroke somehow reduces who he WAS.


Guys, strokes often happen for no apparent reason. Aneurysm. Undetected holes in the heart leading to clots. Trauma prompting a clot.

It's weird that people think he did something to cause his stroke. Don't you know otherwise healthy people who drop dead because of a heart attack or stroke? Happens to runners and super fit people all the time. There's typically an undetected underlying medical issue, but often it "just happens."


They weren’t actually healthy - they had an undetected condition. Frankly since most people don’t have their loved ones autopsied we typically never find out what caused their death - but not doesn’t mean that there wasn’t a clear reason.

A friend of ours , who was in very good physical shape, dropped dead of a sudden heart attack at age 52. No autopsy, but I had noticed a few months prior that he just didn’t look good for some reason. Something was wrong.

People are just curious though - they aren’t blaming anyone, they just want to know how to be healthier themselves to prevent such things.
And it can help people to know the cause of death. Brittany Murphy died at age 32 of pneumonia, complicated by iron deficiency anemia and a bunch of medications she was taking:an anti-depressant, an anti-seizure medication, an inflammatory drug, one of Monjack’s beta blockers, and Vicoprofen for period pain. This tells you that you aren’t invincible even at a young age.

Kim Porter died of pneumonia at 47. Her doctor gave her an anti inflammatory drug - no mention of antibiotics - and she died in her sleep. She left behind 3 kids:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/2680944002

She had been feeling unwell with flu-like symptoms for about four days before her death, the autopsy report says, and her symptoms of coughing, congestion, sweats, sore throat and body aches worsened over the next days.

She saw her doctor and was given Toradol, an anti-inflammatory drug usually administered for pain, plus saline fluids and vitamins. The day before her death she reported a streak of blood in her phlegm. The night before her death, she watched TV and went to bed. She was found the next morning.

We’re all vulnerable. People want to know the ‘why’ to try their best to protect themselves and their loved ones. It’s not to ‘blame anyone’




Again, not true. I was the PP who had the stroke in my early 40’s. I was healthy and have had every single test and multiple brain scans. Maybe I sneezed too hard or jerked my head while sleeping which caused my dissection but that is not unhealthy. There are often times an illness ior lifestyle choice is not to blame. Sh&$ happens.


Nice you lived through that.
Anonymous
Post 03/05/2019 17:51     Subject: Updated: Luke Perry has a stroke -- has now passed away

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I know we are all genuinely curious why he died, since it’s shocking when someone relatively young has a stroke.

Maybe it’s smoking or genetic or high blood pressure, I just wish there wasn’t an air of judgement to it. Like, ‘yep, smoking, that will get ya!’

He was a really awesome guy from what I hear and I think picking apart the cause of stroke somehow reduces who he WAS.


Guys, strokes often happen for no apparent reason. Aneurysm. Undetected holes in the heart leading to clots. Trauma prompting a clot.

It's weird that people think he did something to cause his stroke. Don't you know otherwise healthy people who drop dead because of a heart attack or stroke? Happens to runners and super fit people all the time. There's typically an undetected underlying medical issue, but often it "just happens."


They weren’t actually healthy - they had an undetected condition. Frankly since most people don’t have their loved ones autopsied we typically never find out what caused their death - but not doesn’t mean that there wasn’t a clear reason.

A friend of ours , who was in very good physical shape, dropped dead of a sudden heart attack at age 52. No autopsy, but I had noticed a few months prior that he just didn’t look good for some reason. Something was wrong.

People are just curious though - they aren’t blaming anyone, they just want to know how to be healthier themselves to prevent such things.
And it can help people to know the cause of death. Brittany Murphy died at age 32 of pneumonia, complicated by iron deficiency anemia and a bunch of medications she was taking:an anti-depressant, an anti-seizure medication, an inflammatory drug, one of Monjack’s beta blockers, and Vicoprofen for period pain. This tells you that you aren’t invincible even at a young age.

Kim Porter died of pneumonia at 47. Her doctor gave her an anti inflammatory drug - no mention of antibiotics - and she died in her sleep. She left behind 3 kids:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/2680944002

She had been feeling unwell with flu-like symptoms for about four days before her death, the autopsy report says, and her symptoms of coughing, congestion, sweats, sore throat and body aches worsened over the next days.

She saw her doctor and was given Toradol, an anti-inflammatory drug usually administered for pain, plus saline fluids and vitamins. The day before her death she reported a streak of blood in her phlegm. The night before her death, she watched TV and went to bed. She was found the next morning.

We’re all vulnerable. People want to know the ‘why’ to try their best to protect themselves and their loved ones. It’s not to ‘blame anyone’




Again, not true. I was the PP who had the stroke in my early 40’s. I was healthy and have had every single test and multiple brain scans. Maybe I sneezed too hard or jerked my head while sleeping which caused my dissection but that is not unhealthy. There are often times an illness ior lifestyle choice is not to blame. Sh&$ happens.
Anonymous
Post 03/05/2019 17:23     Subject: Updated: Luke Perry has a stroke -- has now passed away

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If he quite smoking a long time ago then it's obviously not the proximate cause of his death. If he was still smoking and had never quit then that is more relevant and could very likely have contributed to his early death.

No matter what, it's sad that he lost his life so young. He should have had many more years with us.



This is not accurate. You can quit smoking for a decade and still die from the effects.

We have to stop putting the blame on individuals though. We allow companies to develop products and foods that are unhealthy utterly for us. No one is immune from this part of the equation.


Individuals have the right to drink, smoke and live their lives as dangerously as they want. "Heathy people" who live long lives cost a frickin fortune the last ten years of life with assisted living and constant medical care. Not to mention dimentia or Alzheimer's. People who drink and smoke die quickly and save the health system boatloads of money. Inevitably on top of the exorbident health costs "healthy people" end up with a stroke, cancer or heart attack at 90 just like Luke Perry. And besides the 10 years of intensive heathcare and the ultimate cancer/stroke/heart attack .. "Healthy people" usually have regular checkups and expensive medical diagnosis procedures even when younger for decades. Healthy people drain the health dollars like pigs.


You might need to see a mental health professional.