Anonymous
02/06/2019 23:28
Subject: ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .
What's a caf? Google is telling me it's some French housing assistance program.
Anonymous
02/06/2019 22:24
Subject: ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .
Not all people who live in cafs are Hispanic, but a significant portion are. The international diversity at Randolph is indicative of who lives in western pike low income housing, whether mark or caf.
Anonymous
02/06/2019 21:53
Subject: ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Roslyn has cafs and more on the way. There will be plenty of poor Hispanic kids around the school once queens court opens up.
The issue here is that the county has lots of poor Spanish speaking elementary kids, many many many more than could ever fit into an immersion school. What, 350 kids per school? There are more than 350 poor Spanish speaking kids within less than a block of Columbia pike. There are more than that (I believe) in barcroft apartments alone. Ismmersion isn’t going to solve anyone’s problems here.
I heard that the inhabitants of CAFs tend to not be Hispanic. I don’t know if that’s true or not, APAH doesn’t publish anything. Honestly it doesn’t really matter. Any school in that building will be socioeconomically diverse and the neighborhood seats are needed. Current Key families, who mostly draw from the old Key zone, Taylor, and Long Branch will fight moving because it’s super convenient for them. There’s no compelling reason the program has to be on Key.
They also don't want key to move because ... property values. Without immersion, key is basically Barrett.
Not true at all. There’s no neighborhood preference at key. Why would it moving have any effect on the property values or rent.
A neighborhood school at key would be basically a lot like asfs (since 90% of the school currently lives in the key/asfs boundary). Pretty diverse, kind of like glebe. I imagine that there may be more sed kids there since a lot of people won’t move with key, but there are a lot of English learners anyways so I’m not sure it’ll really change it that much.
It would have a higher FARMS rate than ASFS (23%). How high depends on how far immersion moves and how they draw the lines between two neighborhood schools at Key and ASFS (if that is what happens). I think 40-50% FARMS at new Key is a real possibility. Glebe, FWIW is at 15%, so not really a good comparison.
It’ll be fine— contrary to what they say at school board meetings, no one at asfs is afraid of poor people. Most people you talk to live in the neighborhood because of schools, specifically because of the diversity at asfs versus taylor.
They will likely draw some very gerrymandered looking boundaries if the FARMS rate for the current key zone is really 40-50%. New asfs according to aps would have been 5-10% FARMS if they drew a logical boundary (this was one of their arguments for the swap).
Anonymous
02/06/2019 21:28
Subject: ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Roslyn has cafs and more on the way. There will be plenty of poor Hispanic kids around the school once queens court opens up.
The issue here is that the county has lots of poor Spanish speaking elementary kids, many many many more than could ever fit into an immersion school. What, 350 kids per school? There are more than 350 poor Spanish speaking kids within less than a block of Columbia pike. There are more than that (I believe) in barcroft apartments alone. Ismmersion isn’t going to solve anyone’s problems here.
I heard that the inhabitants of CAFs tend to not be Hispanic. I don’t know if that’s true or not, APAH doesn’t publish anything. Honestly it doesn’t really matter. Any school in that building will be socioeconomically diverse and the neighborhood seats are needed. Current Key families, who mostly draw from the old Key zone, Taylor, and Long Branch will fight moving because it’s super convenient for them. There’s no compelling reason the program has to be on Key.
They also don't want key to move because ... property values. Without immersion, key is basically Barrett.
Not true at all. There’s no neighborhood preference at key. Why would it moving have any effect on the property values or rent.
A neighborhood school at key would be basically a lot like asfs (since 90% of the school currently lives in the key/asfs boundary). Pretty diverse, kind of like glebe. I imagine that there may be more sed kids there since a lot of people won’t move with key, but there are a lot of English learners anyways so I’m not sure it’ll really change it that much.
It would have a higher FARMS rate than ASFS (23%). How high depends on how far immersion moves and how they draw the lines between two neighborhood schools at Key and ASFS (if that is what happens). I think 40-50% FARMS at new Key is a real possibility. Glebe, FWIW is at 15%, so not really a good comparison.
Anonymous
02/06/2019 21:17
Subject: ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Roslyn has cafs and more on the way. There will be plenty of poor Hispanic kids around the school once queens court opens up.
The issue here is that the county has lots of poor Spanish speaking elementary kids, many many many more than could ever fit into an immersion school. What, 350 kids per school? There are more than 350 poor Spanish speaking kids within less than a block of Columbia pike. There are more than that (I believe) in barcroft apartments alone. Ismmersion isn’t going to solve anyone’s problems here.
I heard that the inhabitants of CAFs tend to not be Hispanic. I don’t know if that’s true or not, APAH doesn’t publish anything. Honestly it doesn’t really matter. Any school in that building will be socioeconomically diverse and the neighborhood seats are needed. Current Key families, who mostly draw from the old Key zone, Taylor, and Long Branch will fight moving because it’s super convenient for them. There’s no compelling reason the program has to be on Key.
They also don't want key to move because ... property values. Without immersion, key is basically Barrett.
Not true at all. There’s no neighborhood preference at key. Why would it moving have any effect on the property values or rent.
A neighborhood school at key would be basically a lot like asfs (since 90% of the school currently lives in the key/asfs boundary). Pretty diverse, kind of like glebe. I imagine that there may be more sed kids there since a lot of people won’t move with key, but there are a lot of English learners anyways so I’m not sure it’ll really change it that much.
Anonymous
02/06/2019 21:03
Subject: ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .
I call total BS on any one who says they bought a house walkable to Key for immersion. No one buys a house on Lyon village for immersion. They buy them because they have money to burn. These are people can walk to the metro but drive the Audi instead. They could've bought 2 houses in SA for what they paid and walked to claremont immersion. But then they'd have to go to sA middle and high school. That's why they bought in Lyon village.
You do realize that immersion middle and high are both in South Arlington, right?
Anonymous
02/06/2019 20:21
Subject: ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Roslyn has cafs and more on the way. There will be plenty of poor Hispanic kids around the school once queens court opens up.
The issue here is that the county has lots of poor Spanish speaking elementary kids, many many many more than could ever fit into an immersion school. What, 350 kids per school? There are more than 350 poor Spanish speaking kids within less than a block of Columbia pike. There are more than that (I believe) in barcroft apartments alone. Ismmersion isn’t going to solve anyone’s problems here.
I heard that the inhabitants of CAFs tend to not be Hispanic. I don’t know if that’s true or not, APAH doesn’t publish anything. Honestly it doesn’t really matter. Any school in that building will be socioeconomically diverse and the neighborhood seats are needed. Current Key families, who mostly draw from the old Key zone, Taylor, and Long Branch will fight moving because it’s super convenient for them. There’s no compelling reason the program has to be on Key.
They also don't want key to move because ... property values. Without immersion, key is basically Barrett.
Anonymous
02/06/2019 20:19
Subject: ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .
Anonymous wrote:Roslyn has cafs and more on the way. There will be plenty of poor Hispanic kids around the school once queens court opens up.
The issue here is that the county has lots of poor Spanish speaking elementary kids, many many many more than could ever fit into an immersion school. What, 350 kids per school? There are more than 350 poor Spanish speaking kids within less than a block of Columbia pike. There are more than that (I believe) in barcroft apartments alone. Ismmersion isn’t going to solve anyone’s problems here.
I heard that the inhabitants of CAFs tend to not be Hispanic. I don’t know if that’s true or not, APAH doesn’t publish anything. Honestly it doesn’t really matter. Any school in that building will be socioeconomically diverse and the neighborhood seats are needed. Current Key families, who mostly draw from the old Key zone, Taylor, and Long Branch will fight moving because it’s super convenient for them. There’s no compelling reason the program has to be on Key.
Anonymous
02/06/2019 20:06
Subject: ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .
Anonymous wrote:Roslyn has cafs and more on the way. There will be plenty of poor Hispanic kids around the school once queens court opens up.
The issue here is that the county has lots of poor Spanish speaking elementary kids, many many many more than could ever fit into an immersion school. What, 350 kids per school? There are more than 350 poor Spanish speaking kids within less than a block of Columbia pike. There are more than that (I believe) in barcroft apartments alone. Ismmersion isn’t going to solve anyone’s problems here.
Plenty of UMC parents, regardless of native language, are happy to send their kids to an immersion school that is 40-50 frl, because what matters is parent engagement. And by definition, everyone at an option school had at least somewhat involved parents. A 40-50% frl, non immersion school, is a very different thing. It's what key was created to replace back in 1986.
Anonymous
02/06/2019 19:54
Subject: ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .
Roslyn has cafs and more on the way. There will be plenty of poor Hispanic kids around the school once queens court opens up.
The issue here is that the county has lots of poor Spanish speaking elementary kids, many many many more than could ever fit into an immersion school. What, 350 kids per school? There are more than 350 poor Spanish speaking kids within less than a block of Columbia pike. There are more than that (I believe) in barcroft apartments alone. Ismmersion isn’t going to solve anyone’s problems here.
The issue here is that the county has lots of poor Spanish speaking elementary kids, many many many more than could ever fit into an immersion school. What, 350 kids per school? There are more than 350 poor Spanish speaking kids within less than a block of Columbia pike. There are more than that (I believe) in barcroft apartments alone. Ismmersion isn’t going to solve anyone’s problems here.
Anonymous
02/06/2019 19:39
Subject: ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is the Spanish speaking PP above, I didn’t make any snarky comments about a website. I have no idea what any website says. I was responding to another poster basically calling everyone with an opinion about Spanish speakers racists.
Spanish speaking PP above, the Key parents all talked about how vital it was for the school to be located near them and how they struggled and made sacrifices to afford the area around Key so they could send their kids there. If you look at the county demographics and projections, “Key on Key” just doesn’t make sense if what APS wants to do is make Immersion more accessible to Hispanic families, especially disadvantaged ones. The overwhelming majority of Hispanic families do not, and will not, live in walking distance to Key.
I call total BS on any one who says they bought a house walkable to Key for immersion. No one buys a house on Lyon village for immersion. They buy them because they have money to burn. These are people can walk to the metro but drive the Audi instead. They could've bought 2 houses in SA for what they paid and walked to claremont immersion. But then they'd have to go to sA middle and high school. That's why they bought in Lyon village.
You obviously have not been watching the SB meetings. This was Hispanic/Latina Key parents who rent apartments near Key. For immersion. So the affluent Key parents are arguing that Key has to stay where it is for those specific families.
Oh please. It's bs. Want a ffordability and immersion? Move to south Arlington and go to Claremont.
Anonymous
02/06/2019 19:36
Subject: ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is the Spanish speaking PP above, I didn’t make any snarky comments about a website. I have no idea what any website says. I was responding to another poster basically calling everyone with an opinion about Spanish speakers racists.
Spanish speaking PP above, the Key parents all talked about how vital it was for the school to be located near them and how they struggled and made sacrifices to afford the area around Key so they could send their kids there. If you look at the county demographics and projections, “Key on Key” just doesn’t make sense if what APS wants to do is make Immersion more accessible to Hispanic families, especially disadvantaged ones. The overwhelming majority of Hispanic families do not, and will not, live in walking distance to Key.
I call total BS on any one who says they bought a house walkable to Key for immersion. No one buys a house on Lyon village for immersion. They buy them because they have money to burn. These are people can walk to the metro but drive the Audi instead. They could've bought 2 houses in SA for what they paid and walked to claremont immersion. But then they'd have to go to sA middle and high school. That's why they bought in Lyon village.
You obviously have not been watching the SB meetings. This was Hispanic/Latina Key parents who rent apartments near Key. For immersion. So the affluent Key parents are arguing that Key has to stay where it is for those specific families.
Anonymous
02/06/2019 19:29
Subject: ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is the Spanish speaking PP above, I didn’t make any snarky comments about a website. I have no idea what any website says. I was responding to another poster basically calling everyone with an opinion about Spanish speakers racists.
Spanish speaking PP above, the Key parents all talked about how vital it was for the school to be located near them and how they struggled and made sacrifices to afford the area around Key so they could send their kids there. If you look at the county demographics and projections, “Key on Key” just doesn’t make sense if what APS wants to do is make Immersion more accessible to Hispanic families, especially disadvantaged ones. The overwhelming majority of Hispanic families do not, and will not, live in walking distance to Key.
I call total BS on any one who says they bought a house walkable to Key for immersion. No one buys a house on Lyon village for immersion. They buy them because they have money to burn. These are people can walk to the metro but drive the Audi instead. They could've bought 2 houses in SA for what they paid and walked to claremont immersion. But then they'd have to go to sA middle and high school. That's why they bought in Lyon village.
Anonymous
02/06/2019 17:21
Subject: ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .
Anonymous wrote:This is the Spanish speaking PP above, I didn’t make any snarky comments about a website. I have no idea what any website says. I was responding to another poster basically calling everyone with an opinion about Spanish speakers racists.
Spanish speaking PP above, the Key parents all talked about how vital it was for the school to be located near them and how they struggled and made sacrifices to afford the area around Key so they could send their kids there. If you look at the county demographics and projections, “Key on Key” just doesn’t make sense if what APS wants to do is make Immersion more accessible to Hispanic families, especially disadvantaged ones. The overwhelming majority of Hispanic families do not, and will not, live in walking distance to Key.
Anonymous
02/06/2019 15:21
Subject: ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .
This is the Spanish speaking PP above, I didn’t make any snarky comments about a website. I have no idea what any website says. I was responding to another poster basically calling everyone with an opinion about Spanish speakers racists.