Anonymous
Post 11/09/2018 06:17     Subject: Controversial Opinions: School & Education edition
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Achievement gaps will only ever be eliminated by changes in homes and society in general. Attempting to correct them in the schools is too little, too late.


This is so obviously true; I don't see how it can even be considered "controversial."

Seriously, is there some controversy over this view?



Schools put pressure on teachers to pretend like this isn't true.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2018 06:15     Subject: Controversial Opinions: School & Education edition
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kids from low income low education level families would be better off in separate schools, where they would have their needs met (lots of basic enrichment, year round schooling, enough time for learning the basics in reading and math, free meals, outside time, character building).
Kids from UMC and MC home would be better off in more experiential schools with less time for direct instruction and more time for more advanced (possibly few based) enrichment and less strict attendance policies.


Isn’t this why UMC send their kids to private?[/quote]


Most UMC families send their kids to public schools.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2018 05:09     Subject: Controversial Opinions: School & Education edition
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:AI is going to make much of the STEM field obsolete. Sorry guys.


Who is going to create and manage all of the apps and tools to make AI possible, genius??!! Your STEM counterparts.


lol AI is going to be making AI it's already started

My computer can code better than I can


I don't believe you. And I'm in the tech field


Same. I'm actually in the automation of programming field and it's a lot like fusion reactors. Just around the corner, fifteen years from now. IOW, nowhere near viability.

+1 from someone else on the front lines. There is a lot of promise in AI but history since the technology revolution (maybe long before) has consisted of creating problems for which the next generation must find technical solutions. This is not going out of vogue any time soon.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2018 01:08     Subject: Controversial Opinions: School & Education edition
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Achievement gaps will only ever be eliminated by changes in homes and society in general. Attempting to correct them in the schools is too little, too late.


+1


X a million

But I’m gonna up the anti...
If we removed children from their shitty homes and boarded them, we’d see a dramatic drop in crime within 20 years.


Boarding school? It's Lord of the Flies there. There's a reason we closed the orphanages.


Think something like the Milton Hershey school, not Lord of the Flies.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2018 00:53     Subject: Controversial Opinions: School & Education edition
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Direct instruction is better than experiential learning, since it's better taught.


+1000

- a teacher


Have you never seen a kid that can't learn it through "direct instruction" but actually learns and remembers through experience? I have one of those. Teachers like you are what's wrong with our system. There is not one way children learn.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2018 00:42     Subject: Controversial Opinions: School & Education edition
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Public schools are failing dyslexic kids. If you are the parent of a dyslexic kid take your child out for remediation, because it's not going to be done well in public school. And no accommodations alone just don't cut it. Neither does waiting for the kid to fail just to prove they really do have just want the private testing has already told you they have: dyslexia.


Did you start the reading thread? Sounds like it.


No, that wasn't me, I have to admit. But this is a very common opinion of parents of kids with dyslexia, so I am not surprise another parent beat me to the punch.


Another parent of a dyslexic child. Totally agree. 100% of the remediation has been done privately -- and cost me over $20,000. The school did nothing. My only regret is that I didn't do it sooner. I wanted too long.
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2018 23:35     Subject: Controversial Opinions: School & Education edition
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Achievement gaps will only ever be eliminated by changes in homes and society in general. Attempting to correct them in the schools is too little, too late.


This is so obviously true; I don't see how it can even be considered "controversial."

Seriously, is there some controversy over this view?


Apparently so. Do you see any schools for parents on how to raise their children?


DP -- I would fully support tax dollars going to adding parenting classes to the wrap around services at schools in high poverty areas. If I had my way, parents who get any form of social services and who don't have jobs would be required to be occupied with remedial coursework, job training, parenting classes, cooking and nutrition classes, personal finance classes, and the like. We have to break the cycle of poverty.

But they just don’t show up unless there is some very direct incentive.
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2018 21:44     Subject: Controversial Opinions: School & Education edition
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:AI is going to make much of the STEM field obsolete. Sorry guys.


Who is going to create and manage all of the apps and tools to make AI possible, genius??!! Your STEM counterparts.


lol AI is going to be making AI it's already started

My computer can code better than I can


I don't believe you. And I'm in the tech field


Same. I'm actually in the automation of programming field and it's a lot like fusion reactors. Just around the corner, fifteen years from now. IOW, nowhere near viability.
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2018 21:37     Subject: Controversial Opinions: School & Education edition
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Achievement gaps will only ever be eliminated by changes in homes and society in general. Attempting to correct them in the schools is too little, too late.


This is so obviously true; I don't see how it can even be considered "controversial."

Seriously, is there some controversy over this view?


Apparently so. Do you see any schools for parents on how to raise their children?


DP -- I would fully support tax dollars going to adding parenting classes to the wrap around services at schools in high poverty areas. If I had my way, parents who get any form of social services and who don't have jobs would be required to be occupied with remedial coursework, job training, parenting classes, cooking and nutrition classes, personal finance classes, and the like. We have to break the cycle of poverty.
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2018 21:06     Subject: Controversial Opinions: School & Education edition
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Public schools are failing dyslexic kids. If you are the parent of a dyslexic kid take your child out for remediation, because it's not going to be done well in public school. And no accommodations alone just don't cut it. Neither does waiting for the kid to fail just to prove they really do have just want the private testing has already told you they have: dyslexia.


Did you start the reading thread? Sounds like it.


No, that wasn't me, I have to admit. But this is a very common opinion of parents of kids with dyslexia, so I am not surprise another parent beat me to the punch.
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2018 20:08     Subject: Controversial Opinions: School & Education edition
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Achievement gaps will only ever be eliminated by changes in homes and society in general. Attempting to correct them in the schools is too little, too late.


This is so obviously true; I don't see how it can even be considered "controversial."

Seriously, is there some controversy over this view?


Apparently so. Do you see any schools for parents on how to raise their children?
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2018 19:29     Subject: Controversial Opinions: School & Education edition
Anonymous wrote:Achievement gaps will only ever be eliminated by changes in homes and society in general. Attempting to correct them in the schools is too little, too late.


This is so obviously true; I don't see how it can even be considered "controversial."

Seriously, is there some controversy over this view?
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2018 19:26     Subject: Controversial Opinions: School & Education edition
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't believe in the Hillary Clinton "It takes a village" philosophy. I signed up to raise my kids, not yours. It's not my job to make up for other people's bad parenting choices.


You end up paying more for it later because these kids become criminals, dropouts, underemployed, more likely to use gov benefits later on

Better to fix the issue when they are younger

Signed Republican


Shoot your child at a bar...
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2018 17:35     Subject: Controversial Opinions: School & Education edition
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:AI is going to make much of the STEM field obsolete. Sorry guys.


Who is going to create and manage all of the apps and tools to make AI possible, genius??!! Your STEM counterparts.


lol AI is going to be making AI it's already started

My computer can code better than I can


I don't believe you. And I'm in the tech field
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2018 17:24     Subject: Controversial Opinions: School & Education edition
Anonymous wrote:I don't believe in the Hillary Clinton "It takes a village" philosophy. I signed up to raise my kids, not yours. It's not my job to make up for other people's bad parenting choices.


You end up paying more for it later because these kids become criminals, dropouts, underemployed, more likely to use gov benefits later on

Better to fix the issue when they are younger

Signed Republican