Anonymous
Post 09/09/2018 14:17     Subject: Serena is a bully and a crybaby
Anonymous wrote:Her coach actually admitted to coaching her and said all the coaches do it so it was odd that she was called on it.

He added that she didn’t see.

She kept on screaming at the umpire “you owe me an apology” and “you are a thief” more than once, so the umpire quietly told her “verbal abuse, 2nd warning” and “verbal abuse 3rd warning”. It was not audible to those who were on court.
She was not playing well right from the start. Her service percentage did not improve much in the 2nd set but right after the coaching, she started winning points by forcing Osaka to the net. osaka continued her great game. What she did was much more than “show her emotions”. Besides many make players have been penalized for breaking rackets.
Serena probably wanted to bring her baby to the court like Klijsters did when she won the US open less than a year after giving birth. She knew it was not happening so she list her temper and started acting out.
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2018 14:11     Subject: Serena is a bully and a crybaby
Anonymous wrote:White woman here. I’d be pretty pissed too if I were constantly held to a different standard and harassed and told how I needed to stay in my place. And how I dare not get angry, complain, but instead I should just smile and take crap from sanctimonious people like the previous poster who stand ready quick to critize in the event of any deviation from the Stepford-type mode aimed at ensuring white people dont get flustered.

Go Serena!

Thank you for your post.

I wish there was a way to discern people like you from people like poster 13:25. As a black person, it's impossible to know who's who.

Such a pernicious environment we've created. And for what reason?!
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2018 14:10     Subject: Serena is a bully and a crybaby
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Angry. Black. Woman.

This is why I avoid black women, no matter how accomplished. Reality is they can't handle emotion like normal people. Sometimes life is unfair. You accept it and move on. She KNOWS she was going to lose so to turn this into -- oh I'm a competitor, I ALWAYS turn around matches at the end and this ref stopped me -- yeah BS.

And I bet you are all smiles and as sweet as honey when around black people. Right?

This kind of mentality didn't suddenly begin on Tuesday, November 8, 2016. Black people know we've never been liked, here.

This is America.


Yes. Maybe that woman who happens to be black happens to have a darn good reason to be angry. And maybe you should listen to what she has to say and imagine the same words being said by a white or Asian woman, and then see if your reaction to them might be any different.
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2018 14:08     Subject: Serena is a bully and a crybaby
Anonymous wrote:White woman here. I’d be pretty pissed too if I were constantly held to a different standard and harassed and told how I needed to stay in my place. And how I dare not get angry, complain, but instead I should just smile and take crap from sanctimonious people like the previous poster who stand ready quick to critize in the event of any deviation from the Stepford-type mode aimed at ensuring white people dont get flustered.

Go Serena!


when was the last tennis match you watched?
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2018 14:04     Subject: Serena is a bully and a crybaby
White woman here. I’d be pretty pissed too if I were constantly held to a different standard and harassed and told how I needed to stay in my place. And how I dare not get angry, complain, but instead I should just smile and take crap from sanctimonious people like the previous poster who stand ready quick to critize in the event of any deviation from the Stepford-type mode aimed at ensuring white people dont get flustered.

Go Serena!
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2018 13:53     Subject: Serena is a bully and a crybaby
Anonymous wrote:Angry. Black. Woman.

This is why I avoid black women, no matter how accomplished. Reality is they can't handle emotion like normal people. Sometimes life is unfair. You accept it and move on. She KNOWS she was going to lose so to turn this into -- oh I'm a competitor, I ALWAYS turn around matches at the end and this ref stopped me -- yeah BS.

And I bet you are all smiles and as sweet as honey when around black people. Right?

This kind of mentality didn't suddenly begin on Tuesday, November 8, 2016. Black people know we've never been liked, here.

This is America.
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2018 13:52     Subject: Re:Serena is a bully and a crybaby
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You know, sometimes an issue isn’t men vs. women or black vs. white. It’s about a person’s behavior during a tough moment. That’s what this is about. Serena’s behavior during a tough situation. She didn’t handle it well. And, she doesn’t get a pass because she’s a mom, or a black woman or a super athlete.


She didn't "handle it well" because she was being treated unfairly. How would any of us react in the same situation, playing a championship game and having, first, one point, and then, an entire game handed to our opponent? If there is any point in life where a person needs to stand up for herself, this is it. If we don't stand up for ourselves during a tough moment, when will we?


Stop trying to make sense to these posters. You know most of them would never stand up for themselves. That’s why women are always the perpetual losers. They rarely fight back. They need a me too moment and require someone else to step forward first.


Women are still punished for speaking up like adults. If we do we are overly emotional. Serena was trying to be reasonable but knew what the guy did was never done. He did it to her during a final of a major and she was in shock. It just doesn't happen. Women are punished for speaking up where it is accepted from men.


you don't speak "like adult" with umpires during matches.
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2018 13:29     Subject: Re:Serena is a bully and a crybaby
Anonymous wrote:Evert said she’d never seen anything like it in her career and the chair ump was “out of line”. Andy Roddick said it was the worst referring he had ever seen .... ever. Neither mentioned sex or race.

Add Billie Jean King to this list.
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2018 13:28     Subject: Re:Serena is a bully and a crybaby
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Evert said she’d never seen anything like it in her career and the chair ump was “out of line”. Andy Roddick said it was the worst referring he had ever seen .... ever. Neither mentioned sex or race.


I didn't see this but I instantly wondered....

Is there any chance that the chair ump was paying her back and making things difficult for her because of that body suit bruhaha?

"You make things tough for us, we'll make things tough on you."



No. Just no. That was the French tennis association and how does her wearing a body suit make things tough for them? This has to be the most insane comment on this thread. And btw, there was no bruhaha. Serena accepted their judgement and made it clear she was ok with the decision.


O.k. the press made it seem like a much bigger scandal than it really was. Just trying to make sense out of why, after all these years, an ump would accuse Serena of cheating. But it sounds as thought the incidents were completely unrelated.
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2018 13:26     Subject: Re:Serena is a bully and a crybaby
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Evert said she’d never seen anything like it in her career and the chair ump was “out of line”. Andy Roddick said it was the worst referring he had ever seen .... ever. Neither mentioned sex or race.


I didn't see this but I instantly wondered....

Is there any chance that the chair ump was paying her back and making things difficult for her because of that body suit bruhaha?

"You make things tough for us, we'll make things tough on you."


Chair umpire has absolutely nothing to do with dress rules for an event. Nothing at all. What a stupid statement.


Well excuse me! I was not aware that the chair ump lived in such a tight bubble that they would never form a personal opinion about something like that body suit incident. I'll bet those chair umps never, ever talk to any other authorities in the sport.....never mind!

Actually, another female player was warned by an umpire at the US Open. She put her new shirt on backwards during a break, so took it off on court to reverse it once she realized, exposing (gasp) a sports bra. People were pointing out the hypocrisy given that the guys sit there with bare chests all the time.
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2018 13:26     Subject: Serena is a bully and a crybaby
Anonymous wrote:She deserved to lose today but behaved like an entitled douche. I used to love her but no more.


Yep. Time to go home and be a full time mommy now that she's losing her throne and can't handle it.
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2018 13:25     Subject: Serena is a bully and a crybaby
Angry. Black. Woman.

This is why I avoid black women, no matter how accomplished. Reality is they can't handle emotion like normal people. Sometimes life is unfair. You accept it and move on. She KNOWS she was going to lose so to turn this into -- oh I'm a competitor, I ALWAYS turn around matches at the end and this ref stopped me -- yeah BS.
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2018 13:25     Subject: Re:Serena is a bully and a crybaby
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Evert said she’d never seen anything like it in her career and the chair ump was “out of line”. Andy Roddick said it was the worst referring he had ever seen .... ever. Neither mentioned sex or race.


I didn't see this but I instantly wondered....

Is there any chance that the chair ump was paying her back and making things difficult for her because of that body suit bruhaha?

"You make things tough for us, we'll make things tough on you."


Chair umpire has absolutely nothing to do with dress rules for an event. Nothing at all. What a stupid statement.


So much stupidity on this thread and so many idiotic comments from people that didn't watch the match and know nothing about tennis. Bottom line, Osaka was the better player last night and deserved the win. What she didn't deserve was the juvenile tantrum from her opponent spoiling her moment.

Thank goodness for you. You have all of the answers and morality we need. Thank you so so much.
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2018 13:23     Subject: Serena is a bully and a crybaby
Yea, I think they were sending Serena AND her coach a message.
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2018 13:18     Subject: Re:Serena is a bully and a crybaby
I follow tennis regularly and the whole situation makes me sad. Umpires rarely call coaching violations so that was totally uncalled for. Being accused of cheating is a trigger for Serena. I wish she’d let it go and dealt with it after the match.

The umpire didn’t need to do anything. The match could have just played itself out and Naomi would have won. We could have seen a happy smiling Naomi raise her trophy with pride.

I’m sad for Naomi. I’m sad to see all the Serena haters emerge to jump on a hating bandwagon when the opportunity arises. I’m sad for Serena because I admire her and her fighting spirit.