Anonymous
Post 09/05/2018 20:56     Subject: Senior Trump Official Pens Op-Ed in the NYT calling President Amoral

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Based on the writing, it's someone involved in foreign policy, national security, and military, or with that background. The emphasis on diplomacy, academic references pretty much make that a slam dunk. And it has to be someone who has been around long enough to be able to talk about events early on (25th amendment).

So there you go: someone like Matthis, Dan Coats, Pompeo or Kelly.


But it also has to be someone who really cares about tax giveaways and some other conervative agenda items.


It’s not Pompeo. He’s almost as bad as Trump. I think it’s Matthis.


No way, no how it is Mattis. He’d stand up and do it publicly.

I’m leaning Coats or Haley.
Anonymous
Post 09/05/2018 20:53     Subject: Senior Trump Official Pens Op-Ed in the NYT calling President Amoral

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Mmmmhmmm. Anonymous.


+1
Forgive me if I don't put too much credence in anonymous authors (or sources).

So you didn't believe Deep Throat, or wouldn't have if you were alive back then? Would have been one of those Nixon supporters up until the very end?


I was around then but still think anonymous sources are cowardly. Just my opinion.

I agree these folks are cowardly for not doing something more about it, but that doesn't make what they said not true, which is what you insinuated.
Anonymous
Post 09/05/2018 20:52     Subject: Senior Trump Official Pens Op-Ed in the NYT calling President Amoral

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Based on the writing, it's someone involved in foreign policy, national security, and military, or with that background. The emphasis on diplomacy, academic references pretty much make that a slam dunk. And it has to be someone who has been around long enough to be able to talk about events early on (25th amendment).

So there you go: someone like Matthis, Dan Coats, Pompeo or Kelly.


But it also has to be someone who really cares about tax giveaways and some other conervative agenda items.


It’s not Pompeo. He’s almost as bad as Trump. I think it’s Matthis.
Anonymous
Post 09/05/2018 20:52     Subject: Senior Trump Official Pens Op-Ed in the NYT calling President Amoral

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I am going with Mnuchin.


This is an outlier guess, but I thought of him too. He was part of the "suicide pact" that obviously never came to be, with Tillerson and Mattis, but I could see them pivoting and deciding to stay the course for the reasons contained in this article.


No, it's someone much younger, more idealistic than Mnuchin. And religious - note how they call Trump "amoral."

Also, not the use of the phrase "ideals long espoused by conservatives: free minds, free markets and free people" - that's right out of the Hillsdale/Koch Brothers playbook

https://kirkcenter.org/symposia/free-minds-free-markets-and-free-people/


good catch. that's a very cato, reason magazine, koch, type thing.



You don't have to be religious to care about morality
Anonymous
Post 09/05/2018 20:51     Subject: Senior Trump Official Pens Op-Ed in the NYT calling President Amoral

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Based on the writing, it's someone involved in foreign policy, national security, and military, or with that background. The emphasis on diplomacy, academic references pretty much make that a slam dunk. And it has to be someone who has been around long enough to be able to talk about events early on (25th amendment).

So there you go: someone like Matthis, Dan Coats, Pompeo or Kelly.


But it also has to be someone who really cares about tax giveaways and some other conervative agenda items.


upon further consideration IMO it is nikki haley.

Her speechwriter is Jonah Goldberg's (National Review) wife so it is easy for her to have someone write the the whole 'free minds, free markets' shit.

Haley cares about the tax cut, hard core deregulation agenda.

Once trump is out of office, haley can out herself to position herself to show 'hey look i was trying to keep the presidency on track - so give it to me'.

Anonymous
Post 09/05/2018 20:47     Subject: Senior Trump Official Pens Op-Ed in the NYT calling President Amoral

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Nikki Haley for the win.


I thought of her too

-OP

I don’t think it’s her because she’s not in the White House.


She is 100% though a senior official working from within to temper bad foreign policy decisions



her foreign policy decisions are awful as well.

i mean unless you are a hardcore likudnik. she pretty much runs every UN position through the prime miniter's office first.
Anonymous
Post 09/05/2018 20:45     Subject: Senior Trump Official Pens Op-Ed in the NYT calling President Amoral

Anonymous wrote:Based on the writing, it's someone involved in foreign policy, national security, and military, or with that background. The emphasis on diplomacy, academic references pretty much make that a slam dunk. And it has to be someone who has been around long enough to be able to talk about events early on (25th amendment).

So there you go: someone like Matthis, Dan Coats, Pompeo or Kelly.


But it also has to be someone who really cares about tax giveaways and some other conervative agenda items.
Anonymous
Post 09/05/2018 20:44     Subject: Senior Trump Official Pens Op-Ed in the NYT calling President Amoral

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am going with Mnuchin.


This is an outlier guess, but I thought of him too. He was part of the "suicide pact" that obviously never came to be, with Tillerson and Mattis, but I could see them pivoting and deciding to stay the course for the reasons contained in this article.


No, it's someone much younger, more idealistic than Mnuchin. And religious - note how they call Trump "amoral."

Also, not the use of the phrase "ideals long espoused by conservatives: free minds, free markets and free people" - that's right out of the Hillsdale/Koch Brothers playbook

https://kirkcenter.org/symposia/free-minds-free-markets-and-free-people/


good catch. that's a very cato, reason magazine, koch, type thing.

Anonymous
Post 09/05/2018 20:43     Subject: Senior Trump Official Pens Op-Ed in the NYT calling President Amoral

Anonymous wrote:Sarah Huckabee Sanders

“Sander’s evangelical faith is her lodestar; according to her husband, Bryan Sanders”

https://theslot.jezebel.com/the-complicity-of-sarah-huckabee-sanders-1825597216


it is not this hillbilly cow.
Anonymous
Post 09/05/2018 20:42     Subject: Senior Trump Official Pens Op-Ed in the NYT calling President Amoral

Anonymous wrote:Based on the writing, it's someone involved in foreign policy, national security, and military, or with that background. The emphasis on diplomacy, academic references pretty much make that a slam dunk. And it has to be someone who has been around long enough to be able to talk about events early on (25th amendment).

So there you go: someone like Matthis, Dan Coats, Pompeo or Kelly.


it isn't kelly or pompeo.

i don't think it is a principal level staff but someone just under reporting to a principal level person.

probably someone at the nsc.
Anonymous
Post 09/05/2018 20:38     Subject: Senior Trump Official Pens Op-Ed in the NYT calling President Amoral

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Anonymous wrote:Fox News is now attacking the author with a whole panel of Crazytown deniers.


I don't think much of anonymous authors, anonymous letters/notes, etc. Too cowardly.

Go bury your head in the sand. November is going to make you tear your hair out lol crazytown Trump supporters, God Bless'em.
Anonymous
Post 09/05/2018 20:36     Subject: Senior Trump Official Pens Op-Ed in the NYT calling President Amoral

Based on the writing, it's someone involved in foreign policy, national security, and military, or with that background. The emphasis on diplomacy, academic references pretty much make that a slam dunk. And it has to be someone who has been around long enough to be able to talk about events early on (25th amendment).

So there you go: someone like Matthis, Dan Coats, Pompeo or Kelly.
Anonymous
Post 09/05/2018 20:34     Subject: Senior Trump Official Pens Op-Ed in the NYT calling President Amoral

Anonymous wrote:I dont believe this....It is light on substance just like m. Wolfe’s book and does little harm. It also shows that although trump is impetuous responsible people are checking his worst impulses. If this person was legit the rational and moraly brave thing to do would be to resign and go on national tv and tell his story. I think its bs


I posted above and part of me thinks this is BS, too. Moreover, as David Frum points out, it just opens the floodgates on Trumps paranoia. Now he can purge the White House and indulge his despotic tendencies with cause.

Anonymous
Post 09/05/2018 20:34     Subject: Senior Trump Official Pens Op-Ed in the NYT calling President Amoral

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Mmmmhmmm. Anonymous.


+1
Forgive me if I don't put too much credence in anonymous authors (or sources).


You guys understand that the nyt does know who it is right?


I really don't think they do understand that. I've read this same dumb comment so many times. People, the NYTimes knows who it is. They have verified the source. I think we will know in a few days. This wasn't designed to remain anonymous.
Anonymous
Post 09/05/2018 20:33     Subject: Senior Trump Official Pens Op-Ed in the NYT calling President Amoral

Anonymous wrote:Kelly Anne is a spineless piece of trash. No way it’s her.


Piece of trash, maybe. Spineless - definitely not.

She can lie with a straight face, which is a good trait for a traitor.