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Post 11/17/2018 15:24     Subject: Girls ECNL Season - 2018-19 Season

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Anonymous wrote:Pay attention at any college showcase. The strong teams are lined with scouts. The weaker ones hardly have 4 or 5. And yes, I have older children, I've been. That's how it works. Anyone who tells you anything else is just selling you. They aren't being honest.


Well of course strong teams are lined with coaches because strong teams have more overall talented players. But being a talented player on a "bad" DA or ECNL team is not a death sentence either. Again, they are there to watch a player not a team.


It makes the process incredibly harder. And it's also harder to show well.


It is harder if you are playing bad teams. It has nothing to with your teammates. It’s the level of competition you are playing against.


I think you meant "with" . It is harder if you are playing on a bad team. It is because of your teammates. It's the level of competition you are playing with to try and compete against quality teams. Even a good idea dies quickly and the player is unable to get any reasonably decent play off the ground. It descends into chaos and ball chasing.


No I said the complete opposite. Level of Competition. It is much more impressive if your DD plays well against PDA than Spirit VA for example.


That's where we disagree then. If your DD plays on Spirit VA against PDA, she will never receive a good ball she can look good with, she will never be able to have a decent play show up because of the level of the team, and if a scout comes, it is to watch PDA, not Spirit VA.

But hey, do whatever makes you feel good. And players on lower teams are there because they can't make better teams. No one deliberately chooses a team with no talent, as that also lowers the level the poor player trains with - which in the end is critical. If you train with low quality, then a player isn't being challenged in practice, no matter who she plays against.


You are mixing up what I am saying. I never said anything about playing on Spirit. Forget it. Keep preaching, you have more time for this than I do.


Sure, sorry to have upset you. I have older kids playing in college, so I'm sharing with the thread based on what I saw happen with older players and their teammates.

Best of luck to your DD.
Anonymous
Post 11/17/2018 15:22     Subject: Girls ECNL Season - 2018-19 Season

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Anonymous wrote:And yet colleges don't check out teams to see those players if the record is so pitiful, it is unlikely to find some diamond in the rough. If you watch a team with a strong record, there are multiple players worth looking at. It's just much more efficient.


That’s not how it works at all. Coaches are not watching games trying to find players. What a waste of time that would be. The coach would have no idea if that player lighting it up is interested in the program, could academically qualify to get in, or is already committed somewhere else! They don’t waste time doing that. If a coach is on the sideline it is to watch someone in particular.

They care about the level competition, if it’s a ECNL or DA game great. If it’s a showcase against tougher competition even better.

They could care less how well the team does. It’s about the player both on and off the field.


Factually incorrect. Great theory. Reality works out differently. When your kid gets older, you'll get it. I will concede ECNL gives some flicker of hope for something, but the player will really need to work hard in reaching out to the coach, following up with ID sessions where she can showcase away from her team, and things like that.


If you are not working really hard and doing that too you won’t be recruited. It’s all player driven. Good luck to you.


Sure, you just have to work extra hard if you are on a terrible team. You have to rely on ID sessions, instead of showcasing via your team. Which on a certain level, it also means you could drop to a CCL team and save those dollars for more ID sessions,


ECNL is a flicker of hope? Keep gaslighting. You must have missed NLI signings this week. LMAO ?


Not sure what you think I said or how in the world that would be gaslighting. You may not know what the term means. I meant that by being in the ECNL on such a strong national platform, that the player has some hope of being seen - more so than in a lower level league.

I'm kind of on the fence though about that. Is it better to be with a lousy ECNL team or a strong team in another league? I'm not completely sure. I'll have to think on it.
Anonymous
Post 11/17/2018 15:21     Subject: Girls ECNL Season - 2018-19 Season

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Anonymous wrote:Pay attention at any college showcase. The strong teams are lined with scouts. The weaker ones hardly have 4 or 5. And yes, I have older children, I've been. That's how it works. Anyone who tells you anything else is just selling you. They aren't being honest.


Well of course strong teams are lined with coaches because strong teams have more overall talented players. But being a talented player on a "bad" DA or ECNL team is not a death sentence either. Again, they are there to watch a player not a team.


It makes the process incredibly harder. And it's also harder to show well.


It is harder if you are playing bad teams. It has nothing to with your teammates. It’s the level of competition you are playing against.


I think you meant "with" . It is harder if you are playing on a bad team. It is because of your teammates. It's the level of competition you are playing with to try and compete against quality teams. Even a good idea dies quickly and the player is unable to get any reasonably decent play off the ground. It descends into chaos and ball chasing.


No I said the complete opposite. Level of Competition. It is much more impressive if your DD plays well against PDA than Spirit VA for example.


That's where we disagree then. If your DD plays on Spirit VA against PDA, she will never receive a good ball she can look good with, she will never be able to have a decent play show up because of the level of the team, and if a scout comes, it is to watch PDA, not Spirit VA.

But hey, do whatever makes you feel good. And players on lower teams are there because they can't make better teams. No one deliberately chooses a team with no talent, as that also lowers the level the poor player trains with - which in the end is critical. If you train with low quality, then a player isn't being challenged in practice, no matter who she plays against.


You are mixing up what I am saying. I never said anything about playing on Spirit. Forget it. Keep preaching, you have more time for this than I do.
Anonymous
Post 11/17/2018 15:20     Subject: Girls ECNL Season - 2018-19 Season

However, I apologize to the thread. We just digressed into DA talk. Which I could care less about. You can change those DA names out for a quality ECNL like McLean and some other team that can't compete, like Carolina Rapids.
Anonymous
Post 11/17/2018 15:17     Subject: Girls ECNL Season - 2018-19 Season

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Anonymous wrote:And yet colleges don't check out teams to see those players if the record is so pitiful, it is unlikely to find some diamond in the rough. If you watch a team with a strong record, there are multiple players worth looking at. It's just much more efficient.


That’s not how it works at all. Coaches are not watching games trying to find players. What a waste of time that would be. The coach would have no idea if that player lighting it up is interested in the program, could academically qualify to get in, or is already committed somewhere else! They don’t waste time doing that. If a coach is on the sideline it is to watch someone in particular.

They care about the level competition, if it’s a ECNL or DA game great. If it’s a showcase against tougher competition even better.

They could care less how well the team does. It’s about the player both on and off the field.


Factually incorrect. Great theory. Reality works out differently. When your kid gets older, you'll get it. I will concede ECNL gives some flicker of hope for something, but the player will really need to work hard in reaching out to the coach, following up with ID sessions where she can showcase away from her team, and things like that.


If you are not working really hard and doing that too you won’t be recruited. It’s all player driven. Good luck to you.


Sure, you just have to work extra hard if you are on a terrible team. You have to rely on ID sessions, instead of showcasing via your team. Which on a certain level, it also means you could drop to a CCL team and save those dollars for more ID sessions,


ECNL is a flicker of hope? Keep gaslighting. You must have missed NLI signings this week. LMAO ?
Anonymous
Post 11/17/2018 15:17     Subject: Girls ECNL Season - 2018-19 Season

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Anonymous wrote:Pay attention at any college showcase. The strong teams are lined with scouts. The weaker ones hardly have 4 or 5. And yes, I have older children, I've been. That's how it works. Anyone who tells you anything else is just selling you. They aren't being honest.


Well of course strong teams are lined with coaches because strong teams have more overall talented players. But being a talented player on a "bad" DA or ECNL team is not a death sentence either. Again, they are there to watch a player not a team.


It makes the process incredibly harder. And it's also harder to show well.


It is harder if you are playing bad teams. It has nothing to with your teammates. It’s the level of competition you are playing against.


I think you meant "with" . It is harder if you are playing on a bad team. It is because of your teammates. It's the level of competition you are playing with to try and compete against quality teams. Even a good idea dies quickly and the player is unable to get any reasonably decent play off the ground. It descends into chaos and ball chasing.


No I said the complete opposite. Level of Competition. It is much more impressive if your DD plays well against PDA than Spirit VA for example.


That's where we disagree then. If your DD plays on Spirit VA against PDA, she will never receive a good ball she can look good with, she will never be able to have a decent play show up because of the level of the team, and if a scout comes, it is to watch PDA, not Spirit VA.

But hey, do whatever makes you feel good. And players on lower teams are there because they can't make better teams. No one deliberately chooses a team with no talent, as that also lowers the level the poor player trains with - which in the end is critical. If you train with low quality, then a player isn't being challenged in practice, no matter who she plays against.
Anonymous
Post 11/17/2018 15:13     Subject: Girls ECNL Season - 2018-19 Season

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Pay attention at any college showcase. The strong teams are lined with scouts. The weaker ones hardly have 4 or 5. And yes, I have older children, I've been. That's how it works. Anyone who tells you anything else is just selling you. They aren't being honest.


Well of course strong teams are lined with coaches because strong teams have more overall talented players. But being a talented player on a "bad" DA or ECNL team is not a death sentence either. Again, they are there to watch a player not a team.


It makes the process incredibly harder. And it's also harder to show well.


It is harder if you are playing bad teams. It has nothing to with your teammates. It’s the level of competition you are playing against.


I think you meant "with" . It is harder if you are playing on a bad team. It is because of your teammates. It's the level of competition you are playing with to try and compete against quality teams. Even a good idea dies quickly and the player is unable to get any reasonably decent play off the ground. It descends into chaos and ball chasing.


No I said the complete opposite. Level of Competition. It is much more impressive if your DD plays well against PDA than Spirit VA for example.
Anonymous
Post 11/17/2018 14:50     Subject: Girls ECNL Season - 2018-19 Season

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:And yet colleges don't check out teams to see those players if the record is so pitiful, it is unlikely to find some diamond in the rough. If you watch a team with a strong record, there are multiple players worth looking at. It's just much more efficient.


That’s not how it works at all. Coaches are not watching games trying to find players. What a waste of time that would be. The coach would have no idea if that player lighting it up is interested in the program, could academically qualify to get in, or is already committed somewhere else! They don’t waste time doing that. If a coach is on the sideline it is to watch someone in particular.

They care about the level competition, if it’s a ECNL or DA game great. If it’s a showcase against tougher competition even better.

They could care less how well the team does. It’s about the player both on and off the field.


Factually incorrect. Great theory. Reality works out differently. When your kid gets older, you'll get it. I will concede ECNL gives some flicker of hope for something, but the player will really need to work hard in reaching out to the coach, following up with ID sessions where she can showcase away from her team, and things like that.


If you are not working really hard and doing that too you won’t be recruited. It’s all player driven. Good luck to you.


Sure, you just have to work extra hard if you are on a terrible team. You have to rely on ID sessions, instead of showcasing via your team. Which on a certain level, it also means you could drop to a CCL team and save those dollars for more ID sessions,
Anonymous
Post 11/17/2018 14:48     Subject: Girls ECNL Season - 2018-19 Season

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Pay attention at any college showcase. The strong teams are lined with scouts. The weaker ones hardly have 4 or 5. And yes, I have older children, I've been. That's how it works. Anyone who tells you anything else is just selling you. They aren't being honest.


Well of course strong teams are lined with coaches because strong teams have more overall talented players. But being a talented player on a "bad" DA or ECNL team is not a death sentence either. Again, they are there to watch a player not a team.


It makes the process incredibly harder. And it's also harder to show well.


It is harder if you are playing bad teams. It has nothing to with your teammates. It’s the level of competition you are playing against.


I think you meant "with" . It is harder if you are playing on a bad team. It is because of your teammates. It's the level of competition you are playing with to try and compete against quality teams. Even a good idea dies quickly and the player is unable to get any reasonably decent play off the ground. It descends into chaos and ball chasing.
Anonymous
Post 11/17/2018 14:47     Subject: Girls ECNL Season - 2018-19 Season

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And yet colleges don't check out teams to see those players if the record is so pitiful, it is unlikely to find some diamond in the rough. If you watch a team with a strong record, there are multiple players worth looking at. It's just much more efficient.


That’s not how it works at all. Coaches are not watching games trying to find players. What a waste of time that would be. The coach would have no idea if that player lighting it up is interested in the program, could academically qualify to get in, or is already committed somewhere else! They don’t waste time doing that. If a coach is on the sideline it is to watch someone in particular.

They care about the level competition, if it’s a ECNL or DA game great. If it’s a showcase against tougher competition even better.

They could care less how well the team does. It’s about the player both on and off the field.


Factually incorrect. Great theory. Reality works out differently. When your kid gets older, you'll get it. I will concede ECNL gives some flicker of hope for something, but the player will really need to work hard in reaching out to the coach, following up with ID sessions where she can showcase away from her team, and things like that.


If you are not working really hard and doing that too you won’t be recruited. It’s all player driven. Good luck to you.
Anonymous
Post 11/17/2018 14:40     Subject: Girls ECNL Season - 2018-19 Season

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Pay attention at any college showcase. The strong teams are lined with scouts. The weaker ones hardly have 4 or 5. And yes, I have older children, I've been. That's how it works. Anyone who tells you anything else is just selling you. They aren't being honest.


Well of course strong teams are lined with coaches because strong teams have more overall talented players. But being a talented player on a "bad" DA or ECNL team is not a death sentence either. Again, they are there to watch a player not a team.


It makes the process incredibly harder. And it's also harder to show well.


It is harder if you are playing bad teams. It has nothing to with your teammates. It’s the level of competition you are playing against.
Anonymous
Post 11/17/2018 14:40     Subject: Girls ECNL Season - 2018-19 Season

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And yet colleges don't check out teams to see those players if the record is so pitiful, it is unlikely to find some diamond in the rough. If you watch a team with a strong record, there are multiple players worth looking at. It's just much more efficient.


That’s not how it works at all. Coaches are not watching games trying to find players. What a waste of time that would be. The coach would have no idea if that player lighting it up is interested in the program, could academically qualify to get in, or is already committed somewhere else! They don’t waste time doing that. If a coach is on the sideline it is to watch someone in particular.

They care about the level competition, if it’s a ECNL or DA game great. If it’s a showcase against tougher competition even better.

They could care less how well the team does. It’s about the player both on and off the field.


Factually incorrect. Great theory. Reality works out differently. When your kid gets older, you'll get it. I will concede ECNL gives some flicker of hope for something, but the player will really need to work hard in reaching out to the coach, following up with ID sessions where she can showcase away from her team, and things like that.
Anonymous
Post 11/17/2018 14:27     Subject: Girls ECNL Season - 2018-19 Season

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Pay attention at any college showcase. The strong teams are lined with scouts. The weaker ones hardly have 4 or 5. And yes, I have older children, I've been. That's how it works. Anyone who tells you anything else is just selling you. They aren't being honest.


Well of course strong teams are lined with coaches because strong teams have more overall talented players. But being a talented player on a "bad" DA or ECNL team is not a death sentence either. Again, they are there to watch a player not a team.


It makes the process incredibly harder. And it's also harder to show well.
Anonymous
Post 11/17/2018 14:24     Subject: Girls ECNL Season - 2018-19 Season

Anonymous wrote:Pay attention at any college showcase. The strong teams are lined with scouts. The weaker ones hardly have 4 or 5. And yes, I have older children, I've been. That's how it works. Anyone who tells you anything else is just selling you. They aren't being honest.


Well of course strong teams are lined with coaches because strong teams have more overall talented players. But being a talented player on a "bad" DA or ECNL team is not a death sentence either. Again, they are there to watch a player not a team.
Anonymous
Post 11/17/2018 14:08     Subject: Girls ECNL Season - 2018-19 Season

Anonymous wrote:And yet colleges don't check out teams to see those players if the record is so pitiful, it is unlikely to find some diamond in the rough. If you watch a team with a strong record, there are multiple players worth looking at. It's just much more efficient.


That’s not how it works at all. Coaches are not watching games trying to find players. What a waste of time that would be. The coach would have no idea if that player lighting it up is interested in the program, could academically qualify to get in, or is already committed somewhere else! They don’t waste time doing that. If a coach is on the sideline it is to watch someone in particular.

They care about the level competition, if it’s a ECNL or DA game great. If it’s a showcase against tougher competition even better.

They could care less how well the team does. It’s about the player both on and off the field.