Anonymous
09/01/2018 22:30
Subject: Just another redshirting vent
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, is this child attending McDonough? I also live in Baltimore and McD takes redshirting to an entirely different level than the other privates.
No, Gilman.
you are so gross OP. gossip!!
Yes OP is disgusting, gossiping about a child who.is likely identifiable now. That is supremely horrid behavior. Wow.
A couple things.
It's McDonogh. No "u" in it.
And the kid won't be identifiable. Pre-First is a standard Baltimore thing. There are full classes of kids, so this kid is one of many. He is going to be entirely typical among his Gilman peers.
Because it's a standard thing, if you choose not to do a Pre-First year for your kid born in the second half/fourth quarter (depending on the school) of the academic year, your kid may be at a significant disadvantage until things even out at the older ages. I don't know any parents who weren't pleased with Pre-First and I don't know a single kid who feels like it was a bad thing. Probably because it's part of the private school culture here. It's also common for kids who go to Jemicy to repeat a year if they transfer to one of the mainstream privates, so there are a whole bunch of ways kids end up older for grade than someone not part of the culture would expect.
My child is a summer birthday, was not redshirted and did not attend Pre-First, attends a Baltimore private, and does just fine. When you get to be 14 years old, if you're reasonably competent, you are capable of competing academically with a 16 year old, especially if the 14 and 16 year old have been on a similar academic trajectory. The 16 year old might have some advantages, but not enough to be of issue. I find contact sports more concerning, but that's easy to solve by avoiding contact sports.
I have a September kid who we did push ahead and I cannot imagine doing pre-first and now being a year behind (and he does have SN, which he's outgrowing and adapting) as the curriculum is so slow and he's doing well at school, has friends and great on standardized tests. If anything moving him forward and challenging him is far better (though he'd be in gifted if we didn't but I don't care about that). I have no interest in my child doing contact sports but does sports he enjoys. Pre-First is a big scam and a huge money maker for schools. They can take more kids/claim smaller classes in the early years and make an extra year's tuition.
If your child isn't ready, that's on you as a parent. Sure, its easier to hold them back. Everyone is so into the play based preschools they forget the kids need a basic academic foundation and if both the preschool and parents didn't do that, then you as a parent failed them and it isn't that they aren't ready but its that they are not prepared. If your child needs to be held back, as a parent, they should be in private services to catch them up. Time isn't a gift if you failed to prepare them.
it's not about academic content. it's about kids being immature, far at one end of the developmetal spectrum and youngest for the class. 
Anonymous
09/01/2018 22:14
Subject: Just another redshirting vent
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, is this child attending McDonough? I also live in Baltimore and McD takes redshirting to an entirely different level than the other privates.
No, Gilman.
you are so gross OP. gossip!!
Yes OP is disgusting, gossiping about a child who.is likely identifiable now. That is supremely horrid behavior. Wow.
A couple things.
It's McDonogh. No "u" in it.
And the kid won't be identifiable. Pre-First is a standard Baltimore thing. There are full classes of kids, so this kid is one of many. He is going to be entirely typical among his Gilman peers.
Because it's a standard thing, if you choose not to do a Pre-First year for your kid born in the second half/fourth quarter (depending on the school) of the academic year, your kid may be at a significant disadvantage until things even out at the older ages. I don't know any parents who weren't pleased with Pre-First and I don't know a single kid who feels like it was a bad thing. Probably because it's part of the private school culture here. It's also common for kids who go to Jemicy to repeat a year if they transfer to one of the mainstream privates, so there are a whole bunch of ways kids end up older for grade than someone not part of the culture would expect.
My child is a summer birthday, was not redshirted and did not attend Pre-First, attends a Baltimore private, and does just fine. When you get to be 14 years old, if you're reasonably competent, you are capable of competing academically with a 16 year old, especially if the 14 and 16 year old have been on a similar academic trajectory. The 16 year old might have some advantages, but not enough to be of issue. I find contact sports more concerning, but that's easy to solve by avoiding contact sports.
I have a September kid who we did push ahead and I cannot imagine doing pre-first and now being a year behind (and he does have SN, which he's outgrowing and adapting) as the curriculum is so slow and he's doing well at school, has friends and great on standardized tests. If anything moving him forward and challenging him is far better (though he'd be in gifted if we didn't but I don't care about that). I have no interest in my child doing contact sports but does sports he enjoys. Pre-First is a big scam and a huge money maker for schools. They can take more kids/claim smaller classes in the early years and make an extra year's tuition.
If your child isn't ready, that's on you as a parent. Sure, its easier to hold them back. Everyone is so into the play based preschools they forget the kids need a basic academic foundation and if both the preschool and parents didn't do that, then you as a parent failed them and it isn't that they aren't ready but its that they are not prepared. If your child needs to be held back, as a parent, they should be in private services to catch them up. Time isn't a gift if you failed to prepare them.
Anonymous
09/01/2018 22:10
Subject: Just another redshirting vent
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, is this child attending McDonough? I also live in Baltimore and McD takes redshirting to an entirely different level than the other privates.
No, Gilman.
you are so gross OP. gossip!!
Yes OP is disgusting, gossiping about a child who.is likely identifiable now. That is supremely horrid behavior. Wow.
A couple things.
It's McDonogh. No "u" in it.
And the kid won't be identifiable. Pre-First is a standard Baltimore thing. There are full classes of kids, so this kid is one of many. He is going to be entirely typical among his Gilman peers.
Because it's a standard thing, if you choose not to do a Pre-First year for your kid born in the second half/fourth quarter (depending on the school) of the academic year, your kid may be at a significant disadvantage until things even out at the older ages. I don't know any parents who weren't pleased with Pre-First and I don't know a single kid who feels like it was a bad thing. Probably because it's part of the private school culture here. It's also common for kids who go to Jemicy to repeat a year if they transfer to one of the mainstream privates, so there are a whole bunch of ways kids end up older for grade than someone not part of the culture would expect.
My child is a summer birthday, was not redshirted and did not attend Pre-First, attends a Baltimore private, and does just fine. When you get to be 14 years old, if you're reasonably competent, you are capable of competing academically with a 16 year old, especially if the 14 and 16 year old have been on a similar academic trajectory. The 16 year old might have some advantages, but not enough to be of issue. I find contact sports more concerning, but that's easy to solve by avoiding contact sports.
She's given enough other details in her various posts that the child is likely identifiable. So disgusting.
Anonymous
09/01/2018 22:08
Subject: Just another redshirting vent
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, is this child attending McDonough? I also live in Baltimore and McD takes redshirting to an entirely different level than the other privates.
No, Gilman.
you are so gross OP. gossip!!
Yes OP is disgusting, gossiping about a child who.is likely identifiable now. That is supremely horrid behavior. Wow.
A couple things.
It's McDonogh. No "u" in it.
And the kid won't be identifiable. Pre-First is a standard Baltimore thing. There are full classes of kids, so this kid is one of many. He is going to be entirely typical among his Gilman peers.
Because it's a standard thing, if you choose not to do a Pre-First year for your kid born in the second half/fourth quarter (depending on the school) of the academic year, your kid may be at a significant disadvantage until things even out at the older ages. I don't know any parents who weren't pleased with Pre-First and I don't know a single kid who feels like it was a bad thing. Probably because it's part of the private school culture here. It's also common for kids who go to Jemicy to repeat a year if they transfer to one of the mainstream privates, so there are a whole bunch of ways kids end up older for grade than someone not part of the culture would expect.
My child is a summer birthday, was not redshirted and did not attend Pre-First, attends a Baltimore private, and does just fine. When you get to be 14 years old, if you're reasonably competent, you are capable of competing academically with a 16 year old, especially if the 14 and 16 year old have been on a similar academic trajectory. The 16 year old might have some advantages, but not enough to be of issue. I find contact sports more concerning, but that's easy to solve by avoiding contact sports.
Anonymous
09/01/2018 22:02
Subject: Just another redshirting vent
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, is this child attending McDonough? I also live in Baltimore and McD takes redshirting to an entirely different level than the other privates.
No, Gilman.
you are so gross OP. gossip!!
Yes OP is disgusting, gossiping about a child who.is likely identifiable now. That is supremely horrid behavior. Wow.
The parent posted all of this information on facebook.... and I haven't said a single thing about this family or this child other than what the mother posted publicly on facebook, and that in my few interactions with the child he has seemed like a sweet, normal child (not developmentally delayed). It's not like I'm airing their dirty laundry. I am talking about the greater issue of redshirting and one example of it that I had seen recently that irritated me. Hence the title of my thread that this is just another redshirting vent. It has nothing to do with this mother or this kid, specifically, since my kid will never attend that school. It's the general atmosphere in Baltimore of redshirting everyone.
So you won't mind when someone sends his mom a link to this thread, then, because you think your behavior here has been just fine? Totally acceptable? Identifying a child on DCUM is NBD to you?
Anonymous
09/01/2018 21:33
Subject: Just another redshirting vent
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, is this child attending McDonough? I also live in Baltimore and McD takes redshirting to an entirely different level than the other privates.
No, Gilman.
you are so gross OP. gossip!!
Yes OP is disgusting, gossiping about a child who.is likely identifiable now. That is supremely horrid behavior. Wow.
The parent posted all of this information on facebook.... and I haven't said a single thing about this family or this child other than what the mother posted publicly on facebook, and that in my few interactions with the child he has seemed like a sweet, normal child (not developmentally delayed). It's not like I'm airing their dirty laundry. I am talking about the greater issue of redshirting and one example of it that I had seen recently that irritated me. Hence the title of my thread that this is just another redshirting vent. It has nothing to do with this mother or this kid, specifically, since my kid will never attend that school. It's the general atmosphere in Baltimore of redshirting everyone.
Anonymous
09/01/2018 21:24
Subject: Just another redshirting vent
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Who cares?! My kid has an October birthday.
She will start preschool when she’s about to turn 3. She’ll do PK when she’s about to turn 4, junior K when she’s about to turn 5, K just before she turns 6, and 1st just before she turns 7.
It has nothing to do with anything except that she misses the cutoff for MCPS by about 6 weeks, and the cutoff for appealing by about 4 days. I don’t see why you care.
I wouldn't care either if my kid had an October birthday. That's the ideal birthday for school!!! That's like saying you don't know why poor people complain about having no money- because you're rich, and you have money, so what's the problem?
I really don’t see how fall birthdays are ideal. I think like be annoyed if my kid missed the cut off for K and I had to pay for an extra year of preschool/daycare because of a week. At least with August kids you get to choose which you prefer. I am annoyed that my kids are only 2 years and 4 mos apart but 3 years apart in school because the older is late July and the younger is kid-Dec. I spent months wishing I could send my younger a year early, but came around to the idea that she was not really ready and would benefit from not starting K at 4. Of course I have girls and redshirting seems to be more of a thing with boys. I think spring birthdays are the best, personally. No question what class you should be in, good time of year for birthday parties, don’t have to be super pregnant in the summer or winter.
Anonymous
09/01/2018 19:38
Subject: Just another redshirting vent
Typical anti-redshirt DCUM poster, though.
Anonymous
09/01/2018 19:33
Subject: Just another redshirting vent
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, is this child attending McDonough? I also live in Baltimore and McD takes redshirting to an entirely different level than the other privates.
No, Gilman.
you are so gross OP. gossip!!
Yes OP is disgusting, gossiping about a child who.is likely identifiable now. That is supremely horrid behavior. Wow.
Anonymous
09/01/2018 19:12
Subject: Just another redshirting vent
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, is this child attending McDonough? I also live in Baltimore and McD takes redshirting to an entirely different level than the other privates.
No, Gilman.
you are so gross OP. gossip!!
Anonymous
09/01/2018 18:52
Subject: Just another redshirting vent
Anonymous wrote:OP, is this child attending McDonough? I also live in Baltimore and McD takes redshirting to an entirely different level than the other privates.
No, Gilman.
Anonymous
09/01/2018 18:51
Subject: Just another redshirting vent
Anonymous wrote:Who cares?! My kid has an October birthday.
She will start preschool when she’s about to turn 3. She’ll do PK when she’s about to turn 4, junior K when she’s about to turn 5, K just before she turns 6, and 1st just before she turns 7.
It has nothing to do with anything except that she misses the cutoff for MCPS by about 6 weeks, and the cutoff for appealing by about 4 days. I don’t see why you care.
I wouldn't care either if my kid had an October birthday. That's the ideal birthday for school!!! That's like saying you don't know why poor people complain about having no money- because you're rich, and you have money, so what's the problem?
Anonymous
09/01/2018 17:12
Subject: Just another redshirting vent
Anonymous wrote:First rule of good parenting is not to skew things to your kid's advantage. Parents who redshirt are (attempting to) do just that. It's the only reason they do it. It is a red flag re: what kind of people they are.
-of course not talking about SN here.
So I assume you'll be donating your child's 529 to charity? No SAT prep classes? No "enrichment"? You better not read to them either.
Anonymous
09/01/2018 17:11
Subject: Just another redshirting vent
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:First rule of good parenting is not to skew things to your kid's advantage. Parents who redshirt are (attempting to) do just that. It's the only reason they do it. It is a red flag re: what kind of people they are.
-of course not talking about SN here.
Look, here's the thing about SNs: it's not like the kids are born with a magic diagnosis certificate. You don't know and there are often years of not knowing. It has taken me years to get a definitive diagnosis for one of my kids. Years after K, I will note.
The rigid jerks on this thread live in a world where it's easy to scream don't redshirt except if there are diagnosed SNs, and are generally the blindly privileged types who have no actual idea what it's like to live in a district with limited SN support and a kid who defies easy diagnosis. They are selfish, self-absorbed types who are clearly obsessed with college admissions. Meanwhile I am hoping this year will be okay.
You are one of them. Just admit it.
word. plus, they are the FIRST ones who will be on here complaining about the distruptions caused by kids who may have been better off waiting for K.
Anonymous
09/01/2018 17:09
Subject: Just another redshirting vent
Anonymous wrote:First rule of good parenting is not to skew things to your kid's advantage. Parents who redshirt are (attempting to) do just that. It's the only reason they do it. It is a red flag re: what kind of people they are.
-of course not talking about SN here.
lol. this says more about your own pathological competitive parenting than anything else.