Anonymous
Post 06/19/2018 02:44     Subject: To those upset at Trump over child separation

Illegal entry to America was for many years a civil—i.e. non-criminal—infraction. The Trump Administration has decided—they have *chosen*—to treat illegal entry as a "crime." if, in our domestic justice system, the government were to ever say publicly—let alone make it a national policy—to separate a child from his or her parent(s) *simply as a punishment of the parent for other conduct*, it would render that separation unconstitutional.
Anonymous
Post 06/19/2018 02:39     Subject: To those upset at Trump over child separation

Donald Trump and Secretary Nielsen are LYING about how our justice system works to justify tearing impoverished kids from their parents at the border
Anonymous
Post 06/19/2018 02:38     Subject: To those upset at Trump over child separation

No. Not in any sense. Trump is telling you a lie.
Anonymous
Post 06/19/2018 02:30     Subject: To those upset at Trump over child separation

Illegal
Anonymous
Post 06/19/2018 02:26     Subject: To those upset at Trump over child separation

That would be unconstitutional. It’s just his policy. Those poor souls.
Anonymous
Post 06/19/2018 02:03     Subject: To those upset at Trump over child separation

I’m all for Donald enforcing the Law.
Anonymous
Post 06/19/2018 01:58     Subject: Re:To those upset at Trump over child separation

Anonymous wrote:You are such a moron. There is no law broken when one applies for political asylum. Trump thinks you are this ignorant.


everyone is political asylum and use a child as a human shield to slip through, great tactics NOT SMART
Anonymous
Post 06/19/2018 01:51     Subject: Re:To those upset at Trump over child separation

You are such a moron. There is no law broken when one applies for political asylum. Trump thinks you are this ignorant.
Anonymous
Post 06/19/2018 01:26     Subject: To those upset at Trump over child separation

Break laws....but if you have a child you are not going to jail. Fricking liberal logic
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2018 23:28     Subject: To those upset at Trump over child separation

The #TrumpBorderBlunder is an epic fail! Very bad! Horrible ratings! Destroying families! Bankrupting American farmers! Very bad!
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2018 23:18     Subject: To those upset at Trump over child separation

Melania's sister
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2018 23:11     Subject: Re:To those upset at Trump over child separation

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What should be done with children taken into custody at border?
(A) Put in Jail with Parents
(B) Turn them loose on streets of USA
(C)Send them back across border alone
(D)Take into custody in facility in USA


Liberal answer: grant amnesty to both the parents and the children.
...and to all of their 27 family members, and 50 remote family members, neighbors and friends, ex-spouses and illegitimate children. Bring them all in!
Hell, no. Out. Enough.


Melania
Melania's mom.
Melania's dad.

The list goes on, but they are ok, right?
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2018 23:09     Subject: Re:To those upset at Trump over child separation

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What should be done with children taken into custody at border?
(A) Put in Jail with Parents
(B) Turn them loose on streets of USA
(C)Send them back across border alone
(D)Take into custody in facility in USA


Liberal answer: grant amnesty to both the parents and the children.


Conservative answer: jail everybody except POTUS and his co-conspirators, even if that requires putting children in cages because their parents are alleged to have commmitted a misdemeanor in an attempt to seek a better life for their children through the amnesty process.

GOP = F*cking animals.

Dems = F*cking lairs.
Obama caged children, Trump put them in detention centers.


Obama didn't separate families. Obama didn't rip nursing babies from their mothers breast.
Obama detained unaccompanied minors, that is true.

You are parsing "detention center" from "caged", yet it is team Trump who literally built walls out of fences...aka cages.

Anonymous
Post 06/18/2018 23:07     Subject: Re:To those upset at Trump over child separation

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lots of bitching and moaning here and by political pundits, but no real solutions offered.
This is a crisis. And, it was NOT created by this administration. Another problem that needs to be cleaned up by Trump.

So, those of you complaining, hating, and blaming Trump - what exactly is your solution?
- What do you do with children who come through the border with someone who is not family?
- What do you do with children who come over unaccompanied?
- What do you do with children who come over with a parent who breaks the law by entering illegally?
- Where do you propose these family units are held, given that space is limited?
- Specifically, how do we enforce our border laws?

Catch and release, as practiced by previous administrations is not an option. It was one of the policies that caused this problem. Most of those caught and released are still here today, hiding from authorities.

How do we deal with these facts:

Since this time last year, there has been a 325% increase in unaccompanied children entering illegally.
Since this time last year, there has been a 435% increase in family units entering illegally.
Over the last 10 years, there has been a 1,700% increase in asylum claims.
We are experiencing an asylum backlog of 600,000 cases.
Since 2014, the US has admitted more than half a million illegal minors and family units, most of whom are still at large in the US.


You’ve offered no proof of your facts. Where’s your cite? Pulling numbers from some shady bunch of racists like CIS, and aware of how deservedly reviled they are? What in God’s name is the justification for implementing this SPECIFIC TRUMP POLICY? You cool with border agents mocking terrified preK/K/elem kids who don’t know, literally are deliberately not told, if they will **ever** see their parents again?

You’re a faux everything - news reader, intellectual, human. Your wall of bullshit text is just that.


These were the specific numbers given by Kirstjen Nielsen at the press briefing today. I took notes.
And, again.... more bitching and moaning and no solutions.


Another little factoid from today’s briefing. Of the 12,000 kids apprehended who have crossed the border illegally, 10,000 of them came unaccompanied. That means that their parents sent them on this dangerous journey on their own. Their parents don’t seem to have concern for their safety. I would argue that they are getting better treatment, care, and supervision here, in detention, than they received with their parents.


You don't seem well informed. Parents send their kids alone out of complete desperation and because the "coyotes" who help these kids navigate the journey cost upwards of $5,000 - a lifetime savings for some of these families. They have to chose - Sophie's Choice style - which child leaves and has a glimmer of hope of a better life.

You people are so stupid and craven ... It's just sad. I wish we could send you south in exchange for some of these families seeking asylum.
Seriously, I would not defend parents who trust their kids lives to ''coyotes'' human traffickers. Any desperation does not compensate for their actions to send their kids hell knows where with hell knows whom. "Coyote" is pretty suggestive word, you know.


What would you know about being in such a desperate situation? What would you know what it's like to fear constantly for your life and your child's life? What would you know about the hopelessness of extreme poverty?
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2018 23:07     Subject: Re:To those upset at Trump over child separation

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What should be done with children taken into custody at border?
(A) Put in Jail with Parents
(B) Turn them loose on streets of USA
(C)Send them back across border alone
(D)Take into custody in facility in USA


Liberal answer: grant amnesty to both the parents and the children.


Conservative answer: jail everybody except POTUS and his co-conspirators, even if that requires putting children in cages because their parents are alleged to have commmitted a misdemeanor in an attempt to seek a better life for their children through the amnesty process.

GOP = F*cking animals.

Dems = F*cking lairs.
Obama caged children, Trump put them in detention centers.