Anonymous
Post 04/29/2018 09:25     Subject: Let’s Talk APS High Schools: 4th one or no?
If the Wakefield campus is really 37 acres (three times the proposed CC campus) and already has a pool and other amenities, instead of a trailer farm there, why not build another high school facility on that campus - pulling in more planning units and rebalancing the demographics in that school? The CC seats can be grown into an enhanced STEM/Arl Tech magnet program. As a smaller school it could have a field where the current enormous parking lot is (with parking built underneath). The SB's original plan was to put all 1300 seats at WL and turn it into a 3500 seat school, so they have considered something like this before. I guess that would make 2200 seats at Yorktown, 2800 at WL (with 600 seats at the Ed Center), 1300-ish at CC, 700 at HB (make them all HS seats), and what would that leave - 3000 needed at Wakefield (with a nice new building - maybe a performing/visual arts program?). Seems like a cheaper prospect and we wouldn't lose an elementary school in the process.
Anonymous
Post 04/29/2018 08:51     Subject: Let’s Talk APS High Schools: 4th one or no?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wakefield’s future demographics aren’t really a county wide concern. Seats for all students needs to be the priority.


Well, that much has been clear all along. But they also don't have the money to take from other projects to give your neighborhood what you're demanding. Seats are seats, so there is no need for a neighborhood boundary. If the crowding gets too bad at the other schools, people will take the option. It's not going to have equivalent amenities, so you probably don't want that to be your zoned anyway. It will wind up with some amenities, but probably just the bare minimum, like what they will have at HB. You want the full service experience? Gotta go to Wakefield. Do you really think Ashton Heights and Lyon Park are going to let you pull them into your boundary? If past is any predictor, you're going to wind up with the rest of 22204 in your boundary AND a neighborhood school without all the amenities.


There is no precedent of a neighborhood school that doesn’t fully serve its walkable community. Quit making stuff up.
Anonymous
Post 04/29/2018 08:38     Subject: Let’s Talk APS High Schools: 4th one or no?
Anonymous wrote:Wakefield’s future demographics aren’t really a county wide concern. Seats for all students needs to be the priority.


Well, that much has been clear all along. But they also don't have the money to take from other projects to give your neighborhood what you're demanding. Seats are seats, so there is no need for a neighborhood boundary. If the crowding gets too bad at the other schools, people will take the option. It's not going to have equivalent amenities, so you probably don't want that to be your zoned anyway. It will wind up with some amenities, but probably just the bare minimum, like what they will have at HB. You want the full service experience? Gotta go to Wakefield. Do you really think Ashton Heights and Lyon Park are going to let you pull them into your boundary? If past is any predictor, you're going to wind up with the rest of 22204 in your boundary AND a neighborhood school without all the amenities.
Anonymous
Post 04/29/2018 08:06     Subject: Let’s Talk APS High Schools: 4th one or no?
Wakefield’s future demographics aren’t really a county wide concern. Seats for all students needs to be the priority.
Anonymous
Post 04/28/2018 23:10     Subject: Let’s Talk APS High Schools: 4th one or no?
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I doubt it's legal to just redirect bond money that was voted on 2+ years ago. And spare me the it's only fair argument. One looks at the civic assns webpage tells you what the basis of the neighborhoods support: increasing property values and avoiding Wakefield. Period.



I live in that neighborhood and honestly don’t know why you say that. We are worried about our property values going DOWN, which they certainly would if we are rezoned to a crap warehouse school with zero fields or other amenities . If I had a problem with Wakefield, I would not have bought the house in the first place. This neighborhood has always been zoned Wakefield.


i say it because the headline at the top of your civic assn webpage reads, "Neighbors: The Career Center redevelopment project may affect your PROPERTY VALUES and where YOUR CHILDREN attend high school." emphasis/caps aren't mine.


Right, and then it says we have to advocate for EQUAL amenities. Because otherwise, we'll just get screwed again by APS and Arlington Co. If you lived in South Arlington, you'd understand.


I do. South of the pike.


And likely west of George Mason. Of course you don’t want this school. Tough sh:t


Yup. Let's neither pretend we're not looking out for number 1.


Have fun with your trailer farm lower school at Wakefield. 56 trailer max!
Anonymous
Post 04/28/2018 22:48     Subject: Let’s Talk APS High Schools: 4th one or no?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

I doubt it's legal to just redirect bond money that was voted on 2+ years ago. And spare me the it's only fair argument. One looks at the civic assns webpage tells you what the basis of the neighborhoods support: increasing property values and avoiding Wakefield. Period.



I live in that neighborhood and honestly don’t know why you say that. We are worried about our property values going DOWN, which they certainly would if we are rezoned to a crap warehouse school with zero fields or other amenities . If I had a problem with Wakefield, I would not have bought the house in the first place. This neighborhood has always been zoned Wakefield.


i say it because the headline at the top of your civic assn webpage reads, "Neighbors: The Career Center redevelopment project may affect your PROPERTY VALUES and where YOUR CHILDREN attend high school." emphasis/caps aren't mine.


Right, and then it says we have to advocate for EQUAL amenities. Because otherwise, we'll just get screwed again by APS and Arlington Co. If you lived in South Arlington, you'd understand.


I do. South of the pike.


And likely west of George Mason. Of course you don’t want this school. Tough sh:t


Yup. Let's neither pretend we're not looking out for number 1.
Anonymous
Post 04/28/2018 22:17     Subject: Let’s Talk APS High Schools: 4th one or no?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

I doubt it's legal to just redirect bond money that was voted on 2+ years ago. And spare me the it's only fair argument. One looks at the civic assns webpage tells you what the basis of the neighborhoods support: increasing property values and avoiding Wakefield. Period.



I live in that neighborhood and honestly don’t know why you say that. We are worried about our property values going DOWN, which they certainly would if we are rezoned to a crap warehouse school with zero fields or other amenities . If I had a problem with Wakefield, I would not have bought the house in the first place. This neighborhood has always been zoned Wakefield.


i say it because the headline at the top of your civic assn webpage reads, "Neighbors: The Career Center redevelopment project may affect your PROPERTY VALUES and where YOUR CHILDREN attend high school." emphasis/caps aren't mine.


Right, and then it says we have to advocate for EQUAL amenities. Because otherwise, we'll just get screwed again by APS and Arlington Co. If you lived in South Arlington, you'd understand.


I do. South of the pike.


And likely west of George Mason. Of course you don’t want this school. Tough sh:t
Anonymous
Post 04/28/2018 20:46     Subject: Let’s Talk APS High Schools: 4th one or no?
Anonymous wrote:

I doubt it's legal to just redirect bond money that was voted on 2+ years ago. And spare me the it's only fair argument. One looks at the civic assns webpage tells you what the basis of the neighborhoods support: increasing property values and avoiding Wakefield. Period.



I live in that neighborhood and honestly don’t know why you say that. We are worried about our property values going DOWN, which they certainly would if we are rezoned to a crap warehouse school with zero fields or other amenities . If I had a problem with Wakefield, I would not have bought the house in the first place. This neighborhood has always been zoned Wakefield.


i say it because the headline at the top of your civic assn webpage reads, "Neighbors: The Career Center redevelopment project may affect your PROPERTY VALUES and where YOUR CHILDREN attend high school." emphasis/caps aren't mine.


Right, and then it says we have to advocate for EQUAL amenities. Because otherwise, we'll just get screwed again by APS and Arlington Co. If you lived in South Arlington, you'd understand.


I do. South of the pike.
Anonymous
Post 04/28/2018 20:45     Subject: Let’s Talk APS High Schools: 4th one or no?
The County Board needs to feel the heat on this. How do we make that happen?

As much as I hate the property value argument, I believe declining values may not be far fetched if the fourth H.S. is the red headed step child. Shouldn’t the CB care greatly about property values? Lower values mean less in property taxes.

And even if values don’t go down a second rate H.S. would clearly make them rise less than hey otherwise would.

I want it to have a pool and whatever else the others have. And I like someone’s idea of using the Walter Reed CC for some of the sports fields.
Anonymous
Post 04/28/2018 20:14     Subject: Let’s Talk APS High Schools: 4th one or no?
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Anonymous wrote:Has a anyone started a Change.org petition to send to the County Board to demand they stop the vanity pool (love a pp’s term) at Long Bridge and reallocate that funding TJ the pool at the career center. If the County Board would step up and do it’s part, APS could actually afford to do the right thing and that part of the county would enjoy a great pool! (Instead of DC and Alexandria residents.)

Guarantee we could get 1,000 signatures in less than a week!


PP here. I believe it would get the signatures! And I’d be first to sign.
The vanity pool needs to be tabled.

Speaking of which: (a parody on the aquatic center)

http://youtu.be/P0Ezgr0w8-0


I doubt it's legal to just redirect bond money that was voted on 2+ years ago. And spare me the it's only fair argument. One looks at the civic assns webpage tells you what the basis of the neighborhoods support: increasing property values and avoiding Wakefield. Period.



I live in that neighborhood and honestly don’t know why you say that. We are worried about our property values going DOWN, which they certainly would if we are rezoned to a crap warehouse school with zero fields or other amenities . If I had a problem with Wakefield, I would not have bought the house in the first place. This neighborhood has always been zoned Wakefield.


i say it because the headline at the top of your civic assn webpage reads, "Neighbors: The Career Center redevelopment project may affect your PROPERTY VALUES and where YOUR CHILDREN attend high school." emphasis/caps aren't mine.


Np- they literally just explained this you, retard.
Anonymous
Post 04/28/2018 19:20     Subject: Let’s Talk APS High Schools: 4th one or no?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Has a anyone started a Change.org petition to send to the County Board to demand they stop the vanity pool (love a pp’s term) at Long Bridge and reallocate that funding TJ the pool at the career center. If the County Board would step up and do it’s part, APS could actually afford to do the right thing and that part of the county would enjoy a great pool! (Instead of DC and Alexandria residents.)

Guarantee we could get 1,000 signatures in less than a week!


PP here. I believe it would get the signatures! And I’d be first to sign.
The vanity pool needs to be tabled.

Speaking of which: (a parody on the aquatic center)

http://youtu.be/P0Ezgr0w8-0


I doubt it's legal to just redirect bond money that was voted on 2+ years ago. And spare me the it's only fair argument. One looks at the civic assns webpage tells you what the basis of the neighborhoods support: increasing property values and avoiding Wakefield. Period.



I live in that neighborhood and honestly don’t know why you say that. We are worried about our property values going DOWN, which they certainly would if we are rezoned to a crap warehouse school with zero fields or other amenities . If I had a problem with Wakefield, I would not have bought the house in the first place. This neighborhood has always been zoned Wakefield.


i say it because the headline at the top of your civic assn webpage reads, "Neighbors: The Career Center redevelopment project may affect your PROPERTY VALUES and where YOUR CHILDREN attend high school." emphasis/caps aren't mine.


DP here. So the PP explained exactly that to you; what did you not understand?
The SB may change where our children go to school, and property values are tied to this in several ways; if they put a crappy school with 20 years of construction and “phasing” at the CC, who wants to move into a permanent construction zone? Who wants their children to go to a school with no green space, etc.?

Are in your eyes only uneven zip codes allowed to be worried about what is planned inside their neighborhoods?!
Anonymous
Post 04/28/2018 19:13     Subject: Let’s Talk APS High Schools: 4th one or no?


I doubt it's legal to just redirect bond money that was voted on 2+ years ago. And spare me the it's only fair argument. One looks at the civic assns webpage tells you what the basis of the neighborhoods support: increasing property values and avoiding Wakefield. Period.



I live in that neighborhood and honestly don’t know why you say that. We are worried about our property values going DOWN, which they certainly would if we are rezoned to a crap warehouse school with zero fields or other amenities . If I had a problem with Wakefield, I would not have bought the house in the first place. This neighborhood has always been zoned Wakefield.


i say it because the headline at the top of your civic assn webpage reads, "Neighbors: The Career Center redevelopment project may affect your PROPERTY VALUES and where YOUR CHILDREN attend high school." emphasis/caps aren't mine.


Right, and then it says we have to advocate for EQUAL amenities. Because otherwise, we'll just get screwed again by APS and Arlington Co. If you lived in South Arlington, you'd understand.
Anonymous
Post 04/28/2018 18:52     Subject: Let’s Talk APS High Schools: 4th one or no?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m late to this thread, but I live close to the Career Center (though south of the Pike). Like the rest of the neighborhood I’d be thrilled by a 4th comprehensive high school walkable to us. The demographic issue for Wakefield is concerning, but until the boundaries (or the advent of affordable housing) change in a meaningful way that’s going to be stuck where it is.

Lol, that you wrote "is concerning" and not "concerns me."


I mean, what am I supposed to do about it? It should be concerning to everyone, not just me - hence my wording. But if it’s not to the Board then it’s not.
Anonymous
Post 04/28/2018 18:38     Subject: Let’s Talk APS High Schools: 4th one or no?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Has a anyone started a Change.org petition to send to the County Board to demand they stop the vanity pool (love a pp’s term) at Long Bridge and reallocate that funding TJ the pool at the career center. If the County Board would step up and do it’s part, APS could actually afford to do the right thing and that part of the county would enjoy a great pool! (Instead of DC and Alexandria residents.)

Guarantee we could get 1,000 signatures in less than a week!


PP here. I believe it would get the signatures! And I’d be first to sign.
The vanity pool needs to be tabled.

Speaking of which: (a parody on the aquatic center)

http://youtu.be/P0Ezgr0w8-0


I doubt it's legal to just redirect bond money that was voted on 2+ years ago. And spare me the it's only fair argument. One looks at the civic assns webpage tells you what the basis of the neighborhoods support: increasing property values and avoiding Wakefield. Period.



I live in that neighborhood and honestly don’t know why you say that. We are worried about our property values going DOWN, which they certainly would if we are rezoned to a crap warehouse school with zero fields or other amenities . If I had a problem with Wakefield, I would not have bought the house in the first place. This neighborhood has always been zoned Wakefield.


i say it because the headline at the top of your civic assn webpage reads, "Neighbors: The Career Center redevelopment project may affect your PROPERTY VALUES and where YOUR CHILDREN attend high school." emphasis/caps aren't mine.
Anonymous
Post 04/28/2018 18:34     Subject: Let’s Talk APS High Schools: 4th one or no?
Anonymous wrote:It is not illegal to cancel the Long Bridge pool project. Also not illegal for the County Board to allocate bonding capacity to the School Board.

Also not illegal for the County Board to build the pool complex that was voted on in the bond at the Career Centr. The bond doesn’t lock in location.

Think bigger, people.


That will require the county board to actually give a shit about APS and be willing to compromise their vision in the interests of fiscal responsibility. Neither of these are things they have a good track record with.