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Anonymous wrote:Scripted or reality tv. Nope, still not real.

Yes. Real sex. No green screens here.

We are failing to communicate, aren't we? You're saying that these women have no idea that they're going to be porn actors? I'm saying that they know that. I'm saying that the situations are acted out, they aren't real.

She/they are arguing this:

1. porn depicts very "depraved" acts

2. "no one" and then, later, "99%" of women would "never" agree to these acts, or actually want to do them

Therefore, all "consent" given through the contract between the studio and the actress is therefore invalid.


Her/their argument is pretty terrible though, since they rest on a massive "begging the question" fallacy. Which, for those of you unfamiliar with the philosophical concept, means to "assume the truth of the conclusion of an argument in the premises in order for the conclusion to follow."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question

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Anonymous wrote:Scripted or reality tv. Nope, still not real.

Yes. Real sex. No green screens here.

We are failing to communicate, aren't we? You're saying that these women have no idea that they're going to be porn actors? I'm saying that they know that. I'm saying that the situations are acted out, they aren't real.

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Anonymous wrote:Scripted or reality tv. Nope, still not real.

Yes. Real sex. No green screens here.

We are failing to communicate, aren't we? You're saying that these women have no idea that they're going to be porn actors? I'm saying that they know that. I'm saying that the situations are acted out, they aren't real.

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Anonymous wrote:Women don't WANT to be abused and tortured.

It's a good thing these women are portraying abuse and torture, not being abused and tortured. And yes, the distinction is real and important.

Actually they ARE being abused and tortured. These are real women, in real situations, with real stuff being done to their body.

And yes, the damage done to them is very real and very important.

the women CHOSE to do that. what is it that you cannot understand about someone choosing to do something that you do not like?

Do you really think women are CHOOSING to be sodomized, ejaculated on, gagged, slapped, beaten and throttled? I don't think so. It's amazing how far some people will go to try and justify abuse and torture for titillation but it's not surprising. There's a troll on here that really hates women.

Yes, they chose to do this in exchange for payment.

Also, it may shock you to learn, some people (many of whom are women) DO enjoy these things, even without being paid or filmed.

NP. No one in their right mind would enjoy being beaten, slapped, throttled. You are crazy.

You obvious have nooooo idea about the BDSM society...but you know...ignorance is bliss.

BDSM is a FERISH meaning it's enjoyed by a relatively small portion of the population. And yet what you described in your post is not just fetish work it's part of mainstream porn. Meaning we can be absolutely certain that not everyone who films these scenes is into it. Even still, much of the violence in porn comes as a surprise- omg act, that's the very point of the article OP posted- how painful the actress acted like the sex was because that was the part she was playing and that the male porn star acted like he didn't listen because that was the part he was playing. No women d(lets go with 99% of them to please you ) don't want to have parts of them ripped open, they don't want to be punched, they don't want to hit in the face. ANY logical person knows this, so you arguing against it just reveals you, as the other poster pointed out, to be a misogynist troll. Which is nothing new or exciting, and simply shows how void of compassion and emotionally stunted you are on an article such as this

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No... it's real acts depicted in porn. Did you think this was special effects filmed on a green screen?

This circular nonsense is getting really old. Stop acting like those real acts aren't consensual and scripted with the full, willing, informed participation of all parties involved.

Many of the acts are not planned or scripted. In fact in the Frontline special a PP was kind enough to link (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/porn/ Thanks PP) the porn maker specifically admits that the woman involved does not know the extent of the violent scenario they have planned for her. It happens ALL THE TIME.

And again- does consent make it suddenly alright? If you agree to let someone pull your teeth out for money, is it okay for people to watch it and enjoy it? Does that make it suddenly morally permissible?

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Anonymous wrote:Scripted or reality tv. Nope, still not real.

Yes. Real sex. No green screens here.

Anonymous wrote:Scripted or reality tv. Nope, still not real.

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Anonymous wrote:Women don't WANT to be abused and tortured.

It's a good thing these women are portraying abuse and torture, not being abused and tortured. And yes, the distinction is real and important.

Actually they ARE being abused and tortured. These are real women, in real situations, with real stuff being done to their body.

And yes, the damage done to them is very real and very important.

the women CHOSE to do that. what is it that you cannot understand about someone choosing to do something that you do not like?

Do you really think women are CHOOSING to be sodomized, ejaculated on, gagged, slapped, beaten and throttled? I don't think so. It's amazing how far some people will go to try and justify abuse and torture for titillation but it's not surprising. There's a troll on here that really hates women.

Yes, they chose to do this in exchange for payment.

Also, it may shock you to learn, some people (many of whom are women) DO enjoy these things, even without being paid or filmed.

NP. No one in their right mind would enjoy being beaten, slapped, throttled. You are crazy.

You obvious have nooooo idea about the BDSM society...but you know...ignorance is bliss.

BDSM is a FERISH meaning it's enjoyed by a relatively small portion of the population. And yet what you described in your post is not just fetish work it's part of mainstream porn. Meaning we can be absolutely certain that not everyone who films these scenes is into it. Even still, much of the violence in porn comes as a surprise- omg act, that's the very point of the article OP posted- how painful the actress acted like the sex was because that was the part she was playing and that the male porn star acted like he didn't listen because that was the part he was playing. No women d(lets go with 99% of them to please you ) don't want to have parts of them ripped open, they don't want to be punched, they don't want to hit in the face. ANY logical person knows this, so you arguing against it just reveals you, as the other poster pointed out, to be a misogynist troll. Which is nothing new or exciting, and simply shows how void of compassion and emotionally stunted you are on an article such as this

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No... it's real acts depicted in porn. Did you think this was special effects filmed on a green screen?

This circular nonsense is getting really old. Stop acting like those real acts aren't consensual and scripted with the full, willing, informed participation of all parties involved.

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Anonymous wrote:Women don't WANT to be abused and tortured.

It's a good thing these women are portraying abuse and torture, not being abused and tortured. And yes, the distinction is real and important.

Actually they ARE being abused and tortured. These are real women, in real situations, with real stuff being done to their body.

And yes, the damage done to them is very real and very important.

the women CHOSE to do that. what is it that you cannot understand about someone choosing to do something that you do not like?

Do you really think women are CHOOSING to be sodomized, ejaculated on, gagged, slapped, beaten and throttled? I don't think so. It's amazing how far some people will go to try and justify abuse and torture for titillation but it's not surprising. There's a troll on here that really hates women.

Yes, they chose to do this in exchange for payment.

Also, it may shock you to learn, some people (many of whom are women) DO enjoy these things, even without being paid or filmed.

NP. No one in their right mind would enjoy being beaten, slapped, throttled. You are crazy.

You obvious have nooooo idea about the BDSM society...but you know...ignorance is bliss.

BDSM is a FERISH meaning it's enjoyed by a relatively small portion of the population. And yet what you described in your post is not just fetish work it's part of mainstream porn. Meaning we can be absolutely certain that not everyone who films these scenes is into it. Even still, much of the violence in porn comes as a surprise- omg act, that's the very point of the article OP posted- how painful the actress acted like the sex was because that was the part she was playing and that the male porn star acted like he didn't listen because that was the part he was playing. No women d(lets go with 99% of them to please you ) don't want to have parts of them ripped open, they don't want to be punched, they don't want to hit in the face. ANY logical person knows this, so you arguing against it just reveals you, as the other poster pointed out, to be a misogynist troll. Which is nothing new or exciting, and simply shows how void of compassion and emotionally stunted you are on an article such as this

FIFY

No... it's real acts depicted in porn. Did you think this was special effects filmed on a green screen?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Women don't WANT to be abused and tortured.

It's a good thing these women are portraying abuse and torture, not being abused and tortured. And yes, the distinction is real and important.

Actually they ARE being abused and tortured. These are real women, in real situations, with real stuff being done to their body.

And yes, the damage done to them is very real and very important.

the women CHOSE to do that. what is it that you cannot understand about someone choosing to do something that you do not like?

Do you really think women are CHOOSING to be sodomized, ejaculated on, gagged, slapped, beaten and throttled? I don't think so. It's amazing how far some people will go to try and justify abuse and torture for titillation but it's not surprising. There's a troll on here that really hates women.

Yes, they chose to do this in exchange for payment.

Also, it may shock you to learn, some people (many of whom are women) DO enjoy these things, even without being paid or filmed.

NP. No one in their right mind would enjoy being beaten, slapped, throttled. You are crazy.

You obvious have nooooo idea about the BDSM society...but you know...ignorance is bliss.

BDSM is a FERISH meaning it's enjoyed by a relatively small portion of the population. And yet what you described in your post is not just fetish work it's part of mainstream porn. Meaning we can be absolutely certain that not everyone who films these scenes is into it. Even still, much of the violence in porn comes as a surprise- omg act, that's the very point of the article OP posted- how painful the actress acted like the sex was because that was the part she was playing and that the male porn star acted like he didn't listen because that was the part he was playing. No women d(lets go with 99% of them to please you ) don't want to have parts of them ripped open, they don't want to be punched, they don't want to hit in the face. ANY logical person knows this, so you arguing against it just reveals you, as the other poster pointed out, to be a misogynist troll. Which is nothing new or exciting, and simply shows how void of compassion and emotionally stunted you are on an article such as this

FIFY

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Anonymous wrote:The top search term on porn sites is MILF (I met someone who did research on this -- the big sites turned over search data to her).

Yet, we don't hear of widespread incest. Perhaps porn is just fantasy for a lot of people?

I don't think you know what MILF means.

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Anonymous wrote:The top search term on porn sites is MILF (I met someone who did research on this -- the big sites turned over search data to her).

Yet, we don't hear of widespread incest. Perhaps porn is just fantasy for a lot of people?

There is a huge correlation to various forms of violence, particularly partner abuse, by watching porn.
https://www.bu.edu/sph/2015/10/20/viewpoint-domestic-violence-whats-porn-got-to-do-with-it/

Additionally, those are real human beings being abused or hurt in the films. They are important.

Here are the rates of domestic violence for 1994-2012 directly from the Dept of Justice:
https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/ndv0312.pdf (see page 4)

The rates have gone down considerably as porn has become more accessible. In 1994, the internet barely existed (Google was founded in 1998), and no one had fast access to porn. Now, more people have easy access to porn, and domestic violence rates have gone down.

Is porn the magic savior?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Women don't WANT to be abused and tortured.

It's a good thing these women are portraying abuse and torture, not being abused and tortured. And yes, the distinction is real and important.

Actually they ARE being abused and tortured. These are real women, in real situations, with real stuff being done to their body.

And yes, the damage done to them is very real and very important.

the women CHOSE to do that. what is it that you cannot understand about someone choosing to do something that you do not like?

Do you really think women are CHOOSING to be sodomized, ejaculated on, gagged, slapped, beaten and throttled? I don't think so. It's amazing how far some people will go to try and justify abuse and torture for titillation but it's not surprising. There's a troll on here that really hates women.

Yes, they chose to do this in exchange for payment.

Also, it may shock you to learn, some people (many of whom are women) DO enjoy these things, even without being paid or filmed.

NP. No one in their right mind would enjoy being beaten, slapped, throttled. You are crazy.

You obvious have nooooo idea about the BDSM society...but you know...ignorance is bliss.

BDSM is a FERISH meaning it's enjoyed by a relatively small portion of the population. And yet what you described in your post is not just fetish work it's part of mainstream porn. Meaning we can be absolutely certain that not everyone who films these scenes is into it. Even still, much of the violence in porn comes as a surprise- omg act, that's the very point of the article OP posted- how painful the actress acted like the sex was because that was the part she was playing and that the male porn star acted like he didn't listen because that was the part he was playing. No women d(lets go with 99% of them to please you ) don't want to have parts of them ripped open, they don't want to be punched, they don't want to hit in the face. ANY logical person knows this, so you arguing against it just reveals you, as the other poster pointed out, to be a misogynist troll. Which is nothing new or exciting, and simply shows how void of compassion and emotionally stunted you are on an article such as this

Anonymous wrote:The top search term on porn sites is MILF (I met someone who did research on this -- the big sites turned over search data to her).

Yet, we don't hear of widespread incest. Perhaps porn is just fantasy for a lot of people?

Anonymous wrote:The top search term on porn sites is MILF (I met someone who did research on this -- the big sites turned over search data to her).

Yet, we don't hear of widespread incest. Perhaps porn is just fantasy for a lot of people?