Anonymous wrote:Okay. I'll agree I'm probably a "frumpy matron". I'm middle aged. I had a mother who thought everything should have ruffles, bows, and/or embroidery. When I was young she literally sewed jingle bells on some of my clothes. When I finally got to pick my own clothes I opted for simple, classic looks. If a trend appealed to me, I might pick up one piece, but I wanted clothes I could wear for years.

I agree with everything that's been said here, but I have two additional complaints.

Can we get rid of lowrise pants? They don't really look good on anyone. I can remember when pants actually fit. The waistline actually hit the waist, and you didn't have the huge gap in the back.

Can we get rid of rayon? It wrinkles badly and has to be ironed, but scorches so easily that you end up with shiny spots. It also is terrible about pilling.

I don't have a Neiman Marcus budget. I tend to shop at JC Penney or Sears. Target's awful. I think the quality and prices at Walmart are much better - but that's for stocking up on T-shirts, etc. Even I don't think of Walmart as fashionable.

Anonymous wrote:I don't think clothing is that bad. I think the problem is that people don't want to pay for it. They want a $40 shirt that lasts and is a nice material. If you're willing to spend the money there are some great brands out there. Hugo Boss, Theory, Rebecca Taylor, Joie, DVF, etc. what's even better is that now with the internet ALL women have access to these brands. You don't have to live in NY to find nice clothing. Again, most women don't want to pay for it. They want Zara prices. Instead you need to spend more money on clothing and have it tailored.

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Anonymous wrote:All of these apparently young (?) women posting about style and the "dcum fraus" sound ignorant. Trendy, cheap clothes do not look good and they don't last. I'm 27, btw.

NP. I am young at heart (47). If you spent enough time here and saw the shoes and dresses posted along with the insistence on pantyhose you would get why people are calling these women fraus.

There is nothing wrong with this top posted earlier and it does not skew 14 yo.

https://www.anntaylor.com/dotted-ruffle-tie-neck-blouse-/440701?skuId=23737419&defaultColor=2222&colorExplode=false&catid=cata000010

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If you don't get it, you don't get it. And you never will.

Don't get what? Don't get the appeal of busy, ruffled, cheaply made and over priced trendy shirts?

Fashion.

Btw, it's ruffled shirts now, in 3 years when the styles have completely shifted, you will find another thing to complain about. It's what out of touch people do and have done since the beginning of the modern era. Always complaining about what the "kids are wearing"

Okay, but I'm young, most likely younger than you, and I know a lot about fashion. Anne Taylor isn't it.

I doubt all of your first sentence. And no one thinks it is except for the fraus on here, but gold star to you for at least knowing that basic tidbit about fashion.

I'm 27 and worked in visual merchandising (designing store windows) for a major upscale department store for a few years after college before grad school. Are you younger than me and do you have more experience than I do?

Yes to both! And a major department store (interesting you didn't say which) is hardly the cutting edge of style, to put it nicely. Most major department stores cater to middle America and are a dying breed. Perhaps that's why you don't get what's happening in fashion today? How young to be that out of it.

Okay. I majored in design at an art school and never said the store was in the US. Please list your age and credentials. Please make my day and say you're a fashion blogger!

No thanks, I'm not really looking for the approval of someone who works in a crappy department store window at age 27. Who the hell cares about art school. However you even found this site boggles the mind, but suffice to say if this is where you come to discuss fashion, I think that says it all. They hired you well to appeal to the middle aged mom crowd though

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Anonymous wrote:All of these apparently young (?) women posting about style and the "dcum fraus" sound ignorant. Trendy, cheap clothes do not look good and they don't last. I'm 27, btw.

NP. I am young at heart (47). If you spent enough time here and saw the shoes and dresses posted along with the insistence on pantyhose you would get why people are calling these women fraus.

There is nothing wrong with this top posted earlier and it does not skew 14 yo.

https://www.anntaylor.com/dotted-ruffle-tie-neck-blouse-/440701?skuId=23737419&defaultColor=2222&colorExplode=false&catid=cata000010

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If you don't get it, you don't get it. And you never will.

Don't get what? Don't get the appeal of busy, ruffled, cheaply made and over priced trendy shirts?

Fashion.

Btw, it's ruffled shirts now, in 3 years when the styles have completely shifted, you will find another thing to complain about. It's what out of touch people do and have done since the beginning of the modern era. Always complaining about what the "kids are wearing"

Okay, but I'm young, most likely younger than you, and I know a lot about fashion. Anne Taylor isn't it.

I doubt all of your first sentence. And no one thinks it is except for the fraus on here, but gold star to you for at least knowing that basic tidbit about fashion.

I'm 27 and worked in visual merchandising (designing store windows) for a major upscale department store for a few years after college before grad school. Are you younger than me and do you have more experience than I do?

Yes to both! And a major department store (interesting you didn't say which) is hardly the cutting edge of style, to put it nicely. Most major department stores cater to middle America and are a dying breed. Perhaps that's why you don't get what's happening in fashion today? How young to be that out of it.

Okay. I majored in design at an art school and never said the store was in the US. Please list your age and credentials. Please make my day and say you're a fashion blogger!

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Anonymous wrote:All of these apparently young (?) women posting about style and the "dcum fraus" sound ignorant. Trendy, cheap clothes do not look good and they don't last. I'm 27, btw.

NP. I am young at heart (47). If you spent enough time here and saw the shoes and dresses posted along with the insistence on pantyhose you would get why people are calling these women fraus.

There is nothing wrong with this top posted earlier and it does not skew 14 yo.

https://www.anntaylor.com/dotted-ruffle-tie-neck-blouse-/440701?skuId=23737419&defaultColor=2222&colorExplode=false&catid=cata000010

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If you don't get it, you don't get it. And you never will.

Don't get what? Don't get the appeal of busy, ruffled, cheaply made and over priced trendy shirts?

Fashion.

Btw, it's ruffled shirts now, in 3 years when the styles have completely shifted, you will find another thing to complain about. It's what out of touch people do and have done since the beginning of the modern era. Always complaining about what the "kids are wearing"

Okay, but I'm young, most likely younger than you, and I know a lot about fashion. Anne Taylor isn't it.

I doubt all of your first sentence. And no one thinks it is except for the fraus on here, but gold star to you for at least knowing that basic tidbit about fashion.

I'm 27 and worked in visual merchandising (designing store windows) for a major upscale department store for a few years after college before grad school. Are you younger than me and do you have more experience than I do?

Yes to both! And a major department store (interesting you didn't say which) is hardly the cutting edge of style, to put it nicely. Most major department stores cater to middle America and are a dying breed. Perhaps that's why you don't get what's happening in fashion today? How young to be that out of it.

Anonymous wrote:https://www.anntaylor.com/the-trouser-in-tropical-wool---kate-fit/409871?skuId=23440265&defaultColor=1220&colorExplode=false&catid=cata000013

Reviews for these AT pants tell the whole story--a few years ago these tropical wool pants were 80+% wool and lined; now they are ~45% wool and unlined. WTF?

As for the people above crowing about the state of today's fashion, don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining. The clothing being sold today, at all price points, bears no resemblance to the quality of yesteryear. There isn't a fashion writer or blogger out there who isn't lamenting the problem. So don't try to tell me it's the DC hausfrau.

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Anonymous wrote:All of these apparently young (?) women posting about style and the "dcum fraus" sound ignorant. Trendy, cheap clothes do not look good and they don't last. I'm 27, btw.

NP. I am young at heart (47). If you spent enough time here and saw the shoes and dresses posted along with the insistence on pantyhose you would get why people are calling these women fraus.

There is nothing wrong with this top posted earlier and it does not skew 14 yo.

https://www.anntaylor.com/dotted-ruffle-tie-neck-blouse-/440701?skuId=23737419&defaultColor=2222&colorExplode=false&catid=cata000010

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If you don't get it, you don't get it. And you never will.

Don't get what? Don't get the appeal of busy, ruffled, cheaply made and over priced trendy shirts?

Fashion.

Btw, it's ruffled shirts now, in 3 years when the styles have completely shifted, you will find another thing to complain about. It's what out of touch people do and have done since the beginning of the modern era. Always complaining about what the "kids are wearing"

Okay, but I'm young, most likely younger than you, and I know a lot about fashion. Anne Taylor isn't it.

I doubt all of your first sentence. And no one thinks it is except for the fraus on here, but gold star to you for at least knowing that basic tidbit about fashion.

I'm 27 and worked in visual merchandising (designing store windows) for a major upscale department store for a few years after college before grad school. Are you younger than me and do you have more experience than I do?

Yes to both! And a major department store (interesting you didn't say which) is hardly the cutting edge of style, to put it nicely. Most major department stores cater to middle America and are a dying breed. Perhaps that's why you don't get what's happening in fashion today? How young to be that out of it.

NP. Age and fashion credentials: put up or shut up.

Anonymous wrote:All of the bubbleheaded millennials on here defending their ugly clothes because they are too soft minded and lacking in creativity to reject anything the media sells them. Sorry, the rest of us are not "fraus" for calling this shit ugly. It IS ugly, just like bell bottoms were ugly. Some things just are.

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Anonymous wrote:All of these apparently young (?) women posting about style and the "dcum fraus" sound ignorant. Trendy, cheap clothes do not look good and they don't last. I'm 27, btw.

NP. I am young at heart (47). If you spent enough time here and saw the shoes and dresses posted along with the insistence on pantyhose you would get why people are calling these women fraus.

There is nothing wrong with this top posted earlier and it does not skew 14 yo.

https://www.anntaylor.com/dotted-ruffle-tie-neck-blouse-/440701?skuId=23737419&defaultColor=2222&colorExplode=false&catid=cata000010

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If you don't get it, you don't get it. And you never will.

Don't get what? Don't get the appeal of busy, ruffled, cheaply made and over priced trendy shirts?

Fashion.

Btw, it's ruffled shirts now, in 3 years when the styles have completely shifted, you will find another thing to complain about. It's what out of touch people do and have done since the beginning of the modern era. Always complaining about what the "kids are wearing"

Okay, but I'm young, most likely younger than you, and I know a lot about fashion. Anne Taylor isn't it.

I doubt all of your first sentence. And no one thinks it is except for the fraus on here, but gold star to you for at least knowing that basic tidbit about fashion.

I'm 27 and worked in visual merchandising (designing store windows) for a major upscale department store for a few years after college before grad school. Are you younger than me and do you have more experience than I do?

Yes to both! And a major department store (interesting you didn't say which) is hardly the cutting edge of style, to put it nicely. Most major department stores cater to middle America and are a dying breed. Perhaps that's why you don't get what's happening in fashion today? How young to be that out of it.