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Anonymous wrote:So, two years later, how has the removal of Ms. Hoover impacted RM? Rumor has it she is back in MCPS as a teacher.

Other than fact that the program has declined? Nothing.

Can you be more specific? Did diploma rates drop as previously predicted?

This past year -- 90% pass rate, 178 candidates. Don't know what previous years stats were.

Hoover days passing rate was 95-96% so it appears dropped some

Maybe 10 years ago when they didn't follow IB rules and let in very many home school candidates in 11th & 12th grades. Last several years under Hoover were:
2014-88% of 152
2015-93% of 125
2016-86% of 131
2017-88% of 161
2018-86% of 161 (transistion year)

90% pass rate with 178 candidates is definitely an improvement.

Well, I'm relieved that the principal was not actually trying to dismantle the program and that it is thriving. I just Googled Jennifer Hoover MCPS and there is a detailed report about what exactly happened when she was removed from RM. It seems like there was good reason.

Anonymous wrote:Good. All that agitating, and it turns out Hoover leaving didn't break the program.

Too early to tell. Even this year’s grads are “hoover’s Kids”.

Good. All that agitating, and it turns out Hoover leaving didn't break the program.

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Anonymous wrote:So, two years later, how has the removal of Ms. Hoover impacted RM? Rumor has it she is back in MCPS as a teacher.

Other than fact that the program has declined? Nothing.

Can you be more specific? Did diploma rates drop as previously predicted?

This past year -- 90% pass rate, 178 candidates. Don't know what previous years stats were.

Hoover days passing rate was 95-96% so it appears dropped some

Maybe 10 years ago when they didn't follow IB rules and let in very many home school candidates in 11th & 12th grades. Last several years under Hoover were:
2014-88% of 152
2015-93% of 125
2016-86% of 131
2017-88% of 161
2018-86% of 161 (transistion year)

90% pass rate with 178 candidates is definitely an improvement.

I would say that is outstanding. Hats off to all the faculty, admin and students. That's pretty spectacular. My DC is starting 9th in RMIB.

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Anonymous wrote:So, two years later, how has the removal of Ms. Hoover impacted RM? Rumor has it she is back in MCPS as a teacher.

Other than fact that the program has declined? Nothing.

Can you be more specific? Did diploma rates drop as previously predicted?

This past year -- 90% pass rate, 178 candidates. Don't know what previous years stats were.

Hoover days passing rate was 95-96% so it appears dropped some

Maybe 10 years ago when they didn't follow IB rules and let in very many home school candidates in 11th & 12th grades. Last several years under Hoover were:
2014-88% of 152
2015-93% of 125
2016-86% of 131
2017-88% of 161
2018-86% of 161 (transistion year)

90% pass rate with 178 candidates is definitely an improvement.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, two years later, how has the removal of Ms. Hoover impacted RM? Rumor has it she is back in MCPS as a teacher.

Other than fact that the program has declined? Nothing.

Can you be more specific? Did diploma rates drop as previously predicted?

This past year -- 90% pass rate, 178 candidates. Don't know what previous years stats were.

Hoover days passing rate was 95-96% so it appears dropped some

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, two years later, how has the removal of Ms. Hoover impacted RM? Rumor has it she is back in MCPS as a teacher.

Other than fact that the program has declined? Nothing.

Can you be more specific? Did diploma rates drop as previously predicted?

This past year -- 90% pass rate, 178 candidates. Don't know what previous years stats were.

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Anonymous wrote:So, two years later, how has the removal of Ms. Hoover impacted RM? Rumor has it she is back in MCPS as a teacher.

Other than fact that the program has declined? Nothing.

Can you be more specific? Did diploma rates drop as previously predicted?

Anonymous wrote:So, two years later, how has the removal of Ms. Hoover impacted RM? Rumor has it she is back in MCPS as a teacher.

Other than fact that the program has declined? Nothing.

So, two years later, how has the removal of Ms. Hoover impacted RM? Rumor has it she is back in MCPS as a teacher.

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Anonymous wrote:I know many folks unimpressed with Hoover. My kids are doing fine without her.

You are trying to hide behind the anonymity of the forum to disparage a highly respected advocate for the program and the kids. She was well liked by most students and parents. If you really are telling the truth, explain why they were unimpressed with the service she provided. Otherwise, I will assume you are a liar.

+ 1. I am sure people "not impressed with Hoover" did not have their students in the RMIB program.

Not that poster. .but why is it fine to condemn the new staff before the first month of school was complete but not ok to have an opinion on the former staff.

Because all of the new staff are not so new. The English teacher is complicit with the Principal in the deceitful disposal of the former coordinator so that she can be the "diploma coordinator". She is also spreading lies and misinformation about the previous coordinator among kids and parents (during official meetings). She has shown no empathy for students and parents who feel betrayed by the hush-hush manner the previous magnet coordinator was let go and is engaged in tarnishing the previous coordinator's reputation in front of parents who knew the her well.

In addition, the newly hired "magnet coordinator"'s resume has nothing that instills confidence.

These combination of events have resulted in erosion of trust in the new leadership.

Anonymous wrote:I am not sure what happened at RMIB with Ms. Hoover but there have been rumblings in MCPS to increase access to magnet programs. If they focus primarily on increasing awareness about these programs and improving academic performance (especially in Math) in all schools so more kids are able to qualify that would be fantastic and program administrators like Ms. Hoover would I imagine be thrilled to have an incoming magnet class full of lots of different kinds of kids. The problem is that it would be very difficult for MCPS to close the achievement gap this way, it is much easier to lower the admission standards but this inevitably leads to the programs themselves getting watered down. I wonder whether Ms. Hoover tried to push back against such efforts.
The last time, MCPS tried to mess with the HS magnet programs in a big way was back in 2008 when they cut funding. This meant that at Blair for example, teacher no longer had the time to work on course design and collaboration during school time. Luckily for the students, the teachers are incredibly devoted to the kids and the programs and are willing to spend a lot of their personal time during the school year and the summer to try to make up for this but the program has suffered and there are fewer opportunities for collaboration and innovation. The program administrator tried to stick up for his teachers and the program and he was "reassigned" to an elementary school.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/22/AR2009032201834.html

It already has but not the right kind of mix.

For those of you who was not "impressed" with Ms. Hoover, I am not going to try to defend her. But I do know that the new principal's been after her for at least two years now (probably longer), it is hard to get "charged up" about your job when your boss is trying to get rid of you. So, I guess, I can understand why she appeared less engaged. My kids are out of the program at this point but I can certainly testify that she was the most committed advocate for the program. Ms. Shay is a nice teacher. My kids enjoyed her but she has a tough learning curve ahead of her.

I am not sure what happened at RMIB with Ms. Hoover but there have been rumblings in MCPS to increase access to magnet programs. If they focus primarily on increasing awareness about these programs and improving academic performance (especially in Math) in all schools so more kids are able to qualify that would be fantastic and program administrators like Ms. Hoover would I imagine be thrilled to have an incoming magnet class full of lots of different kinds of kids. The problem is that it would be very difficult for MCPS to close the achievement gap this way, it is much easier to lower the admission standards but this inevitably leads to the programs themselves getting watered down. I wonder whether Ms. Hoover tried to push back against such efforts.
The last time, MCPS tried to mess with the HS magnet programs in a big way was back in 2008 when they cut funding. This meant that at Blair for example, teacher no longer had the time to work on course design and collaboration during school time. Luckily for the students, the teachers are incredibly devoted to the kids and the programs and are willing to spend a lot of their personal time during the school year and the summer to try to make up for this but the program has suffered and there are fewer opportunities for collaboration and innovation. The program administrator tried to stick up for his teachers and the program and he was "reassigned" to an elementary school.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/22/AR2009032201834.html

"+ 1. I am sure people "not impressed with Hoover" did not have their students in the RMIB program."

You are sort of correct our DC is not in RMIB, but as someone else indicated, DC was admitted and because of interactions with Ms Hoover, chose NOT to attend.

Ok, I'm willing to admit it was a close call so if I listed Ms Hoover's actions you would say they weren't a big deal. I guess Ms Hoover could have grown on my child over the years.

None the less, I know other kids from our year who made the same call for the similar reasons.

"I do not understand what you are saying. Are you saying that Ms. Hoover dug her heel against changes MCPS wanted done to the program and Mr. Monteleone sided with MCPS and removed her? "

Yes. If MCPS agreed with Ms Hoover, and frankly myself, Mr. Monteleone would never have been able to do all of the things he has done.

It is MUCH more likely that he is just doing what he has been told to do. It makes me worry about all the magnet programs...