Anonymous
07/19/2017 20:56
Subject: TJ Class of 2017 College Destination List
Anonymous wrote:I meant 10 kid to mit. This is a lot from one school. Probably the highest admission rate in the US to MIT.
True, In past years it was more like 15 though, so this was a bit of an off year for TJ.
Anonymous
07/19/2017 20:51
Subject: TJ Class of 2017 College Destination List
I meant 10 kid to mit. This is a lot from one school. Probably the highest admission rate in the US to MIT.
Anonymous
07/19/2017 20:50
Subject: TJ Class of 2017 College Destination List
-0 kids from one school to MIT is a LOT. lol
Anonymous
07/19/2017 20:30
Subject: Re:TJ Class of 2017 College Destination List
. TJ is not a wealthy student body
They are pretty well off, though. Very low percentage of FARMS kids. Also, the car pool line and the student parking areas are filled with a lot of luxury type cars.
Anonymous
07/19/2017 20:14
Subject: Re:TJ Class of 2017 College Destination List
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Columbia (90 applied, 9 accepted, 4 enrolled)
Cornell (157 applied, 25 accepted, 13 enrolled)
Dartmouth (41 applied, 5 accepted, 1 enrolled)
Duke (97 applied, 13 accepted, 7 enrolled)
Harvard (91 applied, 6 accepted, 4 enrolled)
Johns Hopkins (61 applied, 8 accepted, 3 enrolled)
MIT (93 applied, 10 accepted, 8 enrolled)
UPenn (122 applied, 15 accepted, 6 enrolled)
Princeton (106 applied, 9 accepted, 6 enrolled)
Swarthmore (19 applied, 3 accepted, 1 enrolled)
Stanford (121 applied, 7 accepted, 5 enrolled)
WashU (50 applied, 8 accepted, 4 enrolled)
Williams (9 applied, 3 accepted, 1 enrolled)
Yale (72 applied, 8 accepted, 4 enrolled)
Agree. I doubt there is any other public school that has similar numbers. Perhaps Sidwell or the Cathedral schools
At the elite DC area independent schools, about 40% of their graduates attend an Ivy+ college. TJHSST is about 15%. Different financial circumstances plus a few recruited athletes make up some of the difference, but certainly not all. I think the biggest difference is that the private schools have strong students in the arts, humanities, and social sciences rather than 450 students competing for the same few spots in a narrow number of likely tech majors.
Other differences. Almost no legacy admits. TJ students are going to the Top 10 Engineering and CS schools in high numbers, and at high rates. U Illinois UC for example. Maybe not impressive to you. But number 6 in Engineering. 48/68 admitted this year So schools GA Tech, UT Austin, RPI and the UCs have a lot of admits. TJ is not a wealthy student body, so many kids are limited to UVA (over 50% admit rate), WM and VT Engineering (over 80% admit rates each), which is not shabby out of NOVA. Plus OP completely overlooks places like CMU and U of Chicago (20% admit rate) that seem to really like TJ kids. Also, it's a STEM magnet. Yes, it's student body is elite. But they are elite STEM. If it had a significant number of kids who were stronger in arts and humanities, it would be doing admissions wrong. So highly kids are going to apply to MIT, CMU, and the UCs over the standard Ivys.
How do you explain MIT
For a school that has a base of probably over 2 million from several of the counties and areas with the highest income in the US and is constantly ranked as one of the top 10 publics in the US these stats are pathetic
Something is off......
Anonymous
07/19/2017 19:50
Subject: Re:TJ Class of 2017 College Destination List
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Columbia (90 applied, 9 accepted, 4 enrolled)
Cornell (157 applied, 25 accepted, 13 enrolled)
Dartmouth (41 applied, 5 accepted, 1 enrolled)
Duke (97 applied, 13 accepted, 7 enrolled)
Harvard (91 applied, 6 accepted, 4 enrolled)
Johns Hopkins (61 applied, 8 accepted, 3 enrolled)
MIT (93 applied, 10 accepted, 8 enrolled)
UPenn (122 applied, 15 accepted, 6 enrolled)
Princeton (106 applied, 9 accepted, 6 enrolled)
Swarthmore (19 applied, 3 accepted, 1 enrolled)
Stanford (121 applied, 7 accepted, 5 enrolled)
WashU (50 applied, 8 accepted, 4 enrolled)
Williams (9 applied, 3 accepted, 1 enrolled)
Yale (72 applied, 8 accepted, 4 enrolled)
Agree. I doubt there is any other public school that has similar numbers. Perhaps Sidwell or the Cathedral schools
At the elite DC area independent schools, about 40% of their graduates attend an Ivy+ college. TJHSST is about 15%. Different financial circumstances plus a few recruited athletes make up some of the difference, but certainly not all. I think the biggest difference is that the private schools have strong students in the arts, humanities, and social sciences rather than 450 students competing for the same few spots in a narrow number of likely tech majors.
Other differences. Almost no legacy admits. TJ students are going to the Top 10 Engineering and CS schools in high numbers, and at high rates. U Illinois UC for example. Maybe not impressive to you. But number 6 in Engineering. 48/68 admitted this year So schools GA Tech, UT Austin, RPI and the UCs have a lot of admits. TJ is not a wealthy student body, so many kids are limited to UVA (over 50% admit rate), WM and VT Engineering (over 80% admit rates each), which is not shabby out of NOVA. Plus OP completely overlooks places like CMU and U of Chicago (20% admit rate) that seem to really like TJ kids. Also, it's a STEM magnet. Yes, it's student body is elite. But they are elite STEM. If it had a significant number of kids who were stronger in arts and humanities, it would be doing admissions wrong. So highly kids are going to apply to MIT, CMU, and the UCs over the standard Ivys.
Anonymous
07/19/2017 15:11
Subject: Re:TJ Class of 2017 College Destination List
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Columbia (90 applied, 9 accepted, 4 enrolled)
Cornell (157 applied, 25 accepted, 13 enrolled)
Dartmouth (41 applied, 5 accepted, 1 enrolled)
Duke (97 applied, 13 accepted, 7 enrolled)
Harvard (91 applied, 6 accepted, 4 enrolled)
Johns Hopkins (61 applied, 8 accepted, 3 enrolled)
MIT (93 applied, 10 accepted, 8 enrolled)
UPenn (122 applied, 15 accepted, 6 enrolled)
Princeton (106 applied, 9 accepted, 6 enrolled)
Swarthmore (19 applied, 3 accepted, 1 enrolled)
Stanford (121 applied, 7 accepted, 5 enrolled)
WashU (50 applied, 8 accepted, 4 enrolled)
Williams (9 applied, 3 accepted, 1 enrolled)
Yale (72 applied, 8 accepted, 4 enrolled)
Agree. I doubt there is any other public school that has similar numbers. Perhaps Sidwell or the Cathedral schools
At the elite DC area independent schools, about 40% of their graduates attend an Ivy+ college. TJHSST is about 15%. Different financial circumstances plus a few recruited athletes make up some of the difference, but certainly not all. I think the biggest difference is that the private schools have strong students in the arts, humanities, and social sciences rather than 450 students competing for the same few spots in a narrow number of likely tech majors.
Anonymous
07/19/2017 15:06
Subject: Re:TJ Class of 2017 College Destination List
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Columbia (90 applied, 9 accepted, 4 enrolled)
Cornell (157 applied, 25 accepted, 13 enrolled)
Dartmouth (41 applied, 5 accepted, 1 enrolled)
Duke (97 applied, 13 accepted, 7 enrolled)
Harvard (91 applied, 6 accepted, 4 enrolled)
Johns Hopkins (61 applied, 8 accepted, 3 enrolled)
MIT (93 applied, 10 accepted, 8 enrolled)
UPenn (122 applied, 15 accepted, 6 enrolled)
Princeton (106 applied, 9 accepted, 6 enrolled)
Swarthmore (19 applied, 3 accepted, 1 enrolled)
Stanford (121 applied, 7 accepted, 5 enrolled)
WashU (50 applied, 8 accepted, 4 enrolled)
Williams (9 applied, 3 accepted, 1 enrolled)
Yale (72 applied, 8 accepted, 4 enrolled)
Those are not impressive stats at all. Those percentages are the typical acceptance rates for these schools period. TJ is not adding any benefit to college admissions. As the "best" high school in NOVA I'm really surprised about this.
If you don't think these stats are impressive then you don't have a kid in a NOVA high school. Don't compare this to each school's overall acceptance rate (which is skewed by early decision/action acceptances and by the fact that most of their applicants are not from highly competitive Wash DC area) - compare it to the acceptances from other area HS.
Agree. I doubt there is any other public school that has similar numbers. Perhaps Sidwell or the Cathedral schools
Maybe some of the NYC area schools like places like Hunter, Stuyvesant, Bronx Tech... maybe McNair in NJ. But the other point is these are all magnet schools. I'm not trying to be obtuse, but I don't think it's really apples to apples to compare it to the admission rates at other public schools where there is no admission criteria.
Anonymous
07/19/2017 15:02
Subject: TJ Class of 2017 College Destination List
Anonymous wrote:Will these kids really be better workers/parents?
I don't know about becoming better parents but many will become extremely skilled tech workers, management, and entrepreneurs.
Anonymous
07/19/2017 14:59
Subject: Re:TJ Class of 2017 College Destination List
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Columbia (90 applied, 9 accepted, 4 enrolled)
Cornell (157 applied, 25 accepted, 13 enrolled)
Dartmouth (41 applied, 5 accepted, 1 enrolled)
Duke (97 applied, 13 accepted, 7 enrolled)
Harvard (91 applied, 6 accepted, 4 enrolled)
Johns Hopkins (61 applied, 8 accepted, 3 enrolled)
MIT (93 applied, 10 accepted, 8 enrolled)
UPenn (122 applied, 15 accepted, 6 enrolled)
Princeton (106 applied, 9 accepted, 6 enrolled)
Swarthmore (19 applied, 3 accepted, 1 enrolled)
Stanford (121 applied, 7 accepted, 5 enrolled)
WashU (50 applied, 8 accepted, 4 enrolled)
Williams (9 applied, 3 accepted, 1 enrolled)
Yale (72 applied, 8 accepted, 4 enrolled)
Those are not impressive stats at all. Those percentages are the typical acceptance rates for these schools period. TJ is not adding any benefit to college admissions. As the "best" high school in NOVA I'm really surprised about this.
If you don't think these stats are impressive then you don't have a kid in a NOVA high school. Don't compare this to each school's overall acceptance rate (which is skewed by early decision/action acceptances and by the fact that most of their applicants are not from highly competitive Wash DC area) - compare it to the acceptances from other area HS.
Agree. I doubt there is any other public school that has similar numbers. Perhaps Sidwell or the Cathedral schools
Anonymous
07/19/2017 14:57
Subject: TJ Class of 2017 College Destination List
Anonymous wrote:Looks like there are only 28 that enrolled in elite schools so that 28 was included and double counted as accepted in other elites.
Out of 450 students
What do you consider elite? If you include the Ivys, Stanford, MIT, CalTech and Univ of Chicago, I count 61 out of a graduating class of 437. And that doesn't include other great schools like Hopkins, Berkeley and Carnegie Mellon among others.
Anonymous
07/19/2017 14:45
Subject: TJ Class of 2017 College Destination List
Looks like there are only 28 that enrolled in elite schools so that 28 was included and double counted as accepted in other elites.
Out of 450 students
Out of 450 students
Anonymous
07/19/2017 14:20
Subject: TJ Class of 2017 College Destination List
Will these kids really be better workers/parents?
Anonymous
07/19/2017 14:18
Subject: Re:TJ Class of 2017 College Destination List
Anonymous wrote:Columbia (90 applied, 9 accepted, 4 enrolled)
Cornell (157 applied, 25 accepted, 13 enrolled)
Dartmouth (41 applied, 5 accepted, 1 enrolled)
Duke (97 applied, 13 accepted, 7 enrolled)
Harvard (91 applied, 6 accepted, 4 enrolled)
Johns Hopkins (61 applied, 8 accepted, 3 enrolled)
MIT (93 applied, 10 accepted, 8 enrolled)
UPenn (122 applied, 15 accepted, 6 enrolled)
Princeton (106 applied, 9 accepted, 6 enrolled)
Swarthmore (19 applied, 3 accepted, 1 enrolled)
Stanford (121 applied, 7 accepted, 5 enrolled)
WashU (50 applied, 8 accepted, 4 enrolled)
Williams (9 applied, 3 accepted, 1 enrolled)
Yale (72 applied, 8 accepted, 4 enrolled)
Those are not impressive stats at all. Those percentages are the typical acceptance rates for these schools period. TJ is not adding any benefit to college admissions. As the "best" high school in NOVA I'm really surprised about this.
If you don't think these stats are impressive then you don't have a kid in a NOVA high school. Don't compare this to each school's overall acceptance rate (which is skewed by early decision/action acceptances and by the fact that most of their applicants are not from highly competitive Wash DC area) - compare it to the acceptances from other area HS.
Anonymous
07/19/2017 14:15
Subject: Re:TJ Class of 2017 College Destination List
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This just proves to me that elite college acceptance is a crap shoot these days
Look at the acceptance rates for the top 10 schools they are all around 10% or less that's nuts
I bet the people that did get accepted got multiple schools so the reality is even at TJ the chance of you getting into an elite top 10 school is 5% or less which is crazy
I don't want to derail the thread but anyone thinking TJ has a leg up on college admissions this shows otherwise.
This assumes that all TJ students apply to elite schools. If TJ is anything like Blair, I'm guessing that's not the case. Many donut hole families don't apply because they cannot afford to send their qualified kids there.
The data is all there take the accepted/applied its 10% or less for the elite schools
Many donut hole families don't apply. THEY DO NOT EVEN APPLY. Even if their kids are qualified to attend elite schools.
When will DCUM understand that application and admissions to elite schools is not shorthand for how qualified a given student is?
First 70-110 is a decent sized group
Secondly and more importantly the sample size doesn't matter. I'm talking about the ACCEPTANCE RATE which is AVERAGE and jibes across the whole freaking USA
...because you can only be ACCEPTED if you APPLY. So yes, the ACCEPTANCE RATE is AVERAGE because the population includes a lot of students from donut hole families WHO DO NOT EVEN APPLY TO ELITES.
OMG are you really this dense the acceptance % irregardless of the raw numbers should be high jeez try and keep up
I share your frustration. I'm about to throw my office chair through my monitor.