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Anonymous wrote:Effing Bethenny. Went on and on about how LuAnn shouldn't trust her gut and her heart because "I trusted my heart and my gut, but look where it got me with Jason."

Well, actually, you have said PUBLICLY that the Jason fiasco started with you NOT listening to your gut, Bethenny:
"Asked by an audience member what her gut told her as she was about to wed Hoppy, she said,'I think my instinct and gut going into my marriage [knew] it would turn out the way it did. I could feel it, but I intellectualized it. People are always talking about ‘Do I go with my head or my heart?’ Go with your gut.'"

http://bit.ly/2qFrmxI

So which is it?

It's whichever is convenient for Bethenny to use and freak out about. I remember watching last night and thinking the same thing- doesn't sound like it's your gut that failed you. But of course Bethenny will switch and use whatever she needs to get that hit in

Agreed. When she was with Jason, she was gushing about him all the time, and writing in her books about how much he helped her with her business and with her career. When things went south, it was what a horrible person he is, and how he didn't deserve a dime of her money, because he never helped her with her business or her career.

I dont think thats the case- I think it's more you cover up what your gut tells you because you're hoping it will work, you don't want to admit it to yourself, you still feel loyalty to him, etc. I felt like when she finally was just honest about her gut is when it fell apart because she couldn't skate over things anymore.

And also Jason is quite clearly bats**t insane.

I agree that Jason is now batshit insane, but I firmly believe that he didn't start out that way. Being with her and being a part of the fame/TV/scrutiny lifestyle that came with her effed him up. I know he is responsible for his actions and behavior, but there is no way that she was just this lovely, wonderful person this whole time, and he was just pure evil.

NO ONE and nothing could make someone act like the flaming turd that this man has been. Only severe psychological issues.

Also, I remember Bethenny recounted the first time they met and he called her "stuck up" or something- sorry, that's a red flag, for someone you've just met and is trying to flirt with you? But I think Bethenny blew past all the red flags because she felt the clock ticking and everyone on the show would bash her for being alone. I am no fan of Bethenny, but I feel like what she went through is horrific and a tale as old as time that happens to many women.

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Anonymous wrote:Effing Bethenny. Went on and on about how LuAnn shouldn't trust her gut and her heart because "I trusted my heart and my gut, but look where it got me with Jason."

Well, actually, you have said PUBLICLY that the Jason fiasco started with you NOT listening to your gut, Bethenny:
"Asked by an audience member what her gut told her as she was about to wed Hoppy, she said,'I think my instinct and gut going into my marriage [knew] it would turn out the way it did. I could feel it, but I intellectualized it. People are always talking about ‘Do I go with my head or my heart?’ Go with your gut.'"

http://bit.ly/2qFrmxI

So which is it?

It's whichever is convenient for Bethenny to use and freak out about. I remember watching last night and thinking the same thing- doesn't sound like it's your gut that failed you. But of course Bethenny will switch and use whatever she needs to get that hit in

Agreed. When she was with Jason, she was gushing about him all the time, and writing in her books about how much he helped her with her business and with her career. When things went south, it was what a horrible person he is, and how he didn't deserve a dime of her money, because he never helped her with her business or her career.

I dont think thats the case- I think it's more you cover up what your gut tells you because you're hoping it will work, you don't want to admit it to yourself, you still feel loyalty to him, etc. I felt like when she finally was just honest about her gut is when it fell apart because she couldn't skate over things anymore.

And also Jason is quite clearly bats**t insane.

I agree that Jason is now batshit insane, but I firmly believe that he didn't start out that way. Being with her and being a part of the fame/TV/scrutiny lifestyle that came with her effed him up. I know he is responsible for his actions and behavior, but there is no way that she was just this lovely, wonderful person this whole time, and he was just pure evil.

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Anonymous wrote:Effing Bethenny. Went on and on about how LuAnn shouldn't trust her gut and her heart because "I trusted my heart and my gut, but look where it got me with Jason."

Well, actually, you have said PUBLICLY that the Jason fiasco started with you NOT listening to your gut, Bethenny:
"Asked by an audience member what her gut told her as she was about to wed Hoppy, she said,'I think my instinct and gut going into my marriage [knew] it would turn out the way it did. I could feel it, but I intellectualized it. People are always talking about ‘Do I go with my head or my heart?’ Go with your gut.'"

http://bit.ly/2qFrmxI

So which is it?

It's whichever is convenient for Bethenny to use and freak out about. I remember watching last night and thinking the same thing- doesn't sound like it's your gut that failed you. But of course Bethenny will switch and use whatever she needs to get that hit in

Agreed. When she was with Jason, she was gushing about him all the time, and writing in her books about how much he helped her with her business and with her career. When things went south, it was what a horrible person he is, and how he didn't deserve a dime of her money, because he never helped her with her business or her career.

I dont think thats the case- I think it's more you cover up what your gut tells you because you're hoping it will work, you don't want to admit it to yourself, you still feel loyalty to him, etc. I felt like when she finally was just honest about her gut is when it fell apart because she couldn't skate over things anymore.

And also Jason is quite clearly bats**t insane.

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Anonymous wrote:Effing Bethenny. Went on and on about how LuAnn shouldn't trust her gut and her heart because "I trusted my heart and my gut, but look where it got me with Jason."

Well, actually, you have said PUBLICLY that the Jason fiasco started with you NOT listening to your gut, Bethenny:
"Asked by an audience member what her gut told her as she was about to wed Hoppy, she said,'I think my instinct and gut going into my marriage [knew] it would turn out the way it did. I could feel it, but I intellectualized it. People are always talking about ‘Do I go with my head or my heart?’ Go with your gut.'"

http://bit.ly/2qFrmxI

So which is it?

It's whichever is convenient for Bethenny to use and freak out about. I remember watching last night and thinking the same thing- doesn't sound like it's your gut that failed you. But of course Bethenny will switch and use whatever she needs to get that hit in

Agreed. When she was with Jason, she was gushing about him all the time, and writing in her books about how much he helped her with her business and with her career. When things went south, it was what a horrible person he is, and how he didn't deserve a dime of her money, because he never helped her with her business or her career.

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Anonymous wrote:Effing Bethenny. Went on and on about how LuAnn shouldn't trust her gut and her heart because "I trusted my heart and my gut, but look where it got me with Jason."

Well, actually, you have said PUBLICLY that the Jason fiasco started with you NOT listening to your gut, Bethenny:
"Asked by an audience member what her gut told her as she was about to wed Hoppy, she said,'I think my instinct and gut going into my marriage [knew] it would turn out the way it did. I could feel it, but I intellectualized it. People are always talking about ‘Do I go with my head or my heart?’ Go with your gut.'"

http://bit.ly/2qFrmxI

So which is it?

It's whichever is convenient for Bethenny to use and freak out about. I remember watching last night and thinking the same thing- doesn't sound like it's your gut that failed you. But of course Bethenny will switch and use whatever she needs to get that hit in

Anonymous wrote:Effing Bethenny. Went on and on about how LuAnn shouldn't trust her gut and her heart because "I trusted my heart and my gut, but look where it got me with Jason."

Well, actually, you have said PUBLICLY that the Jason fiasco started with you NOT listening to your gut, Bethenny:
"Asked by an audience member what her gut told her as she was about to wed Hoppy, she said,'I think my instinct and gut going into my marriage [knew] it would turn out the way it did. I could feel it, but I intellectualized it. People are always talking about ‘Do I go with my head or my heart?’ Go with your gut.'"

http://bit.ly/2qFrmxI

So which is it?

Anonymous wrote:Bethennys face has really taken a hit. You can't be 100 pounds at 47 years old. I mean she looked TERRIBLE last night. Her cheeks are caving in.

Anonymous wrote:I have never watched the show but last night I was flipping channels and saw these ladies at a dinner ? 5 minutes was all I could watch.

They looked like deformed monsters with color treated hair and makeup that made them look even more monstrous. How any man finds that attractive is beyond me.

All looked like Nazi death camp victims too. Eat a hamburger once in a while.

Anonymous wrote:I have never watched the show but last night I was flipping channels and saw these ladies at a dinner ? 5 minutes was all I could watch.

They looked like deformed monsters with color treated hair and makeup that made them look even more monstrous. How any man finds that attractive is beyond me.

All looked like Nazi death camp victims too. Eat a hamburger once in a while.

Anonymous wrote:Kind of lost interest, this used to be a guilty pleasure but I literaly find myself blushing at the sheer desperation of Ramona Sonja and Tinsley, they are so unbelievably desperate. What a royal turnoff to any man who might be relationship material, no wonder they are alone.

Bethany is too toxic for my taste, her looks, her voice, her aggressiveness...ugh! Its insufferable.

Carole is the only one I used to like now i cannot even stomahc her, the way she so wants to dress and act 20, but looks like she is 60 with long hair and a really bad overbite. Her assertiveness politically was a big turnoff and watching her brown nose up to Bethany was pretty nauseating.

The only sane one is Dornda however in general find the show pretty boring and lacking any real substance.

Wish Luann the best they seem happy and thats all that counts.