Anonymous wrote:If abortion was made illegal except for cases due to life of mother or life of baby, whose life would be more important? If carrying the baby to term will kill the mother, but save the baby- whose life do you save?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here's what I don't understand about the pro-choice talking points, coming from someone who has no particular religious beliefs:
When I see a fetus, I know it looks like a baby. It has a head, a torso, arms, etc.
When I'm pregnant, I can feel the fetus. That isn't a ghost kicking me.
When I look at a sonogram, I know I'm looking at life. A heartbeat. Bodily organs that will never be mine.
The pro-choice movement would have me believe that it's all about "my body, my choice." I agree with that, so I exert control over my body...my hair, my teeth, my fingernails, etc.
That fetus inside of me that looks like a baby, acts like a baby, and will eventually be a baby...why do you believe that it's just "part of my body?"
Yeah, I get that it's growing in me, and yeah, I get that it's dependent on me, but it's still something separate from. That fetus will always have separate DNA from me. How do I justify that my fetus with its own DNA is just "part of my body?"
I appreciate the desire for independent liberty and bodily autonomy, but why should a fetus with its own DNA, its own organs, its own veins, etc. have no rights, and no liberty?
Ironic to me that in many jurisdictions, a pregnant woman's killing will result in 2 counts of murder. I guess that's because it was assumed that any mother carrying a baby wanted that life to live, so we are supposed to mourn, and the law provides justice for mother and the unborn life. However, the minute that the mother decides she doesn't want the baby, we're supposed to support her decision to terminate, and not emote. I don't get that at all.
Look, I get all those points, and women making choice to terminate pregnancy don't do it lightly. It always a struggle.
Also, until that fetus cannot survive outside of the woman's body - it is part of that body.
Just my 2 c
Some actually don't think much about how many abortions they have. My kid worked for a lobbyist who had three. What's one more?
Anonymous wrote:My thoughts are also about the baby who can often be just fine if allowed to live without the mother. Why are these babies still aborted?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here's what I don't understand about the pro-choice talking points, coming from someone who has no particular religious beliefs:
When I see a fetus, I know it looks like a baby. It has a head, a torso, arms, etc.
When I'm pregnant, I can feel the fetus. That isn't a ghost kicking me.
When I look at a sonogram, I know I'm looking at life. A heartbeat. Bodily organs that will never be mine.
The pro-choice movement would have me believe that it's all about "my body, my choice." I agree with that, so I exert control over my body...my hair, my teeth, my fingernails, etc.
That fetus inside of me that looks like a baby, acts like a baby, and will eventually be a baby...why do you believe that it's just "part of my body?"
Yeah, I get that it's growing in me, and yeah, I get that it's dependent on me, but it's still something separate from. That fetus will always have separate DNA from me. How do I justify that my fetus with its own DNA is just "part of my body?"
I appreciate the desire for independent liberty and bodily autonomy, but why should a fetus with its own DNA, its own organs, its own veins, etc. have no rights, and no liberty?
Ironic to me that in many jurisdictions, a pregnant woman's killing will result in 2 counts of murder. I guess that's because it was assumed that any mother carrying a baby wanted that life to live, so we are supposed to mourn, and the law provides justice for mother and the unborn life. However, the minute that the mother decides she doesn't want the baby, we're supposed to support her decision to terminate, and not emote. I don't get that at all.
Look, I get all those points, and women making choice to terminate pregnancy don't do it lightly. It always a struggle.
Also, until that fetus cannot survive outside of the woman's body - it is part of that body.
Just my 2 c
Anonymous wrote:My thoughts are also about the baby who can often be just fine if allowed to live without the mother. Why are these babies still aborted?
Anonymous wrote:Here's what I don't understand about the pro-choice talking points, coming from someone who has no particular religious beliefs:
When I see a fetus, I know it looks like a baby. It has a head, a torso, arms, etc.
When I'm pregnant, I can feel the fetus. That isn't a ghost kicking me.
When I look at a sonogram, I know I'm looking at life. A heartbeat. Bodily organs that will never be mine.
The pro-choice movement would have me believe that it's all about "my body, my choice." I agree with that, so I exert control over my body...my hair, my teeth, my fingernails, etc.
That fetus inside of me that looks like a baby, acts like a baby, and will eventually be a baby...why do you believe that it's just "part of my body?"
Yeah, I get that it's growing in me, and yeah, I get that it's dependent on me, but it's still something separate from. That fetus will always have separate DNA from me. How do I justify that my fetus with its own DNA is just "part of my body?"
I appreciate the desire for independent liberty and bodily autonomy, but why should a fetus with its own DNA, its own organs, its own veins, etc. have no rights, and no liberty?
Ironic to me that in many jurisdictions, a pregnant woman's killing will result in 2 counts of murder. I guess that's because it was assumed that any mother carrying a baby wanted that life to live, so we are supposed to mourn, and the law provides justice for mother and the unborn life. However, the minute that the mother decides she doesn't want the baby, we're supposed to support her decision to terminate, and not emote. I don't get that at all.
Anonymous wrote:Here's what I don't understand about the pro-choice talking points, coming from someone who has no particular religious beliefs:
When I see a fetus, I know it looks like a baby. It has a head, a torso, arms, etc.
When I'm pregnant, I can feel the fetus. That isn't a ghost kicking me.
When I look at a sonogram, I know I'm looking at life. A heartbeat. Bodily organs that will never be mine.
The pro-choice movement would have me believe that it's all about "my body, my choice." I agree with that, so I exert control over my body...my hair, my teeth, my fingernails, etc.
That fetus inside of me that looks like a baby, acts like a baby, and will eventually be a baby...why do you believe that it's just "part of my body?"
Yeah, I get that it's growing in me, and yeah, I get that it's dependent on me, but it's still something separate from. That fetus will always have separate DNA from me. How do I justify that my fetus with its own DNA is just "part of my body?"
I appreciate the desire for independent liberty and bodily autonomy, but why should a fetus with its own DNA, its own organs, its own veins, etc. have no rights, and no liberty?
Ironic to me that in many jurisdictions, a pregnant woman's killing will result in 2 counts of murder. I guess that's because it was assumed that any mother carrying a baby wanted that life to live, so we are supposed to mourn, and the law provides justice for mother and the unborn life. However, the minute that the mother decides she doesn't want the baby, we're supposed to support her decision to terminate, and not emote. I don't get that at all.
Anonymous wrote:I was raped in college and got pregnant and I had no money and considered killing myself because I was too ashamed to tell my parents. I walked around in a daze for weeks trying to figure out where I would run away to, or how I would kill myself, how I prayed and wished that baby would go away and finally miscarried. Never in my life would I wish what I went through on anyone. Ever. Fuck you "pro-life" people.
Anonymous wrote:If abortion was made illegal except for cases due to life of mother or life of baby, whose life would be more important? If carrying the baby to term will kill the mother, but save the baby- whose life do you save?