Anonymous wrote:Is there a single white person here who is willing to acknowledge that the increasing number of deceitful and duplicitous actions of police exposed over the years thanks to video footage clarifies why blacks hold so much contempt for the police?

No. Because the majority (not all but the majority) end up being justified shootings.

Michael Brown anyone?

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Anonymous wrote:A lawsuit has been filed recently by the American Civil Liberties Union of Connecticut against three Connecticut state troopers who accidentally recorded themselves fabricating charges against a protester after confiscating his camera.
Cops lie like shit to cover their ass routinely.

There are 750k+ sworn LEO in this country. I don't think it's fair to take the WRONG actions of a few and say it's representative of the entire force.

That would be like saying the rioters last night are representative of all black people in NC. It's simply not true and making sweeping generalizations only worsens the situation.

Tell that to the posters in this thread arguing that blacks deserve to be regarded as animals and viewed as criminals because of the actions of a few.

Nobody said that in this thread.

Nobody.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow so like I'm peeping some of the comments and folks is really laying it all out there about how much they despise blacks and it got me wondering, say a black person works in an office on Constitution Avenue (keywords: ceramic coffee mugs) is that black person a savage sub-human animal too or is it just the ones rioting in Charlotte, NC?
I'm asking because I have a colleague that frequents DCUM and I'm curious as to whether he/she is feigning respect and amity.

Another fine example of twisting and overstating then asking a question in an attempt to legitimize the rhetoric.

It always baffles me. I am white, hispanic, female and catholic. When someone speaks out against a white person - I don't automatically think they are talking about me. Speak out against the actions of a hispanic - don't automatically think they feel that way about me. Feel one way about a female - don't assume you feel that way about all females. Judge the actions of the catholic church - don't automatically think you are judging me.

Why then is it if you say I don't like the actions of that african american automatically equal that you MUST be racist and hate all african americans?

np

They claim that for others as well. Cries of hater, bigot, various forms of phobe, they are all cheap shots trying to paint someone with a broad brush to shut them up. People that do that cannot handle civil discourse or a difference of opinion.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's my question.
Why aren't Asians doing this? I don't see rioting in Korean/Vietnamese communities. Latin folks either. The black community isn't doing itself favors by doing this.

--signed An Asian...

How many Asians and Latinos have been killed by cops in similar circumstances recently?

Latinos are often killed by cops in similar circumstances in Los Angeles. Its just not splashed all over the media to whip everyone into a frenzy.

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like it was a good shoot. Multiple witnesses saying he had a gun. Video evidence shows the weapon. When you pull a gun on the police, you can expect to get shot. They are going to allow the family to view the video. I feel bad for the police officers involved.

There is also a witness photo of the gun.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow so like I'm peeping some of the comments and folks is really laying it all out there about how much they despise blacks and it got me wondering, say a black person works in an office on Constitution Avenue (keywords: ceramic coffee mugs) is that black person a savage sub-human animal too or is it just the ones rioting in Charlotte, NC?
I'm asking because I have a colleague that frequents DCUM and I'm curious as to whether he/she is feigning respect and amity.

Another fine example of twisting and overstating then asking a question in an attempt to legitimize the rhetoric.

It always baffles me. I am white, hispanic, female and catholic. When someone speaks out against a white person - I don't automatically think they are talking about me. Speak out against the actions of a hispanic - don't automatically think they feel that way about me. Feel one way about a female - don't assume you feel that way about all females. Judge the actions of the catholic church - don't automatically think you are judging me.

Why then is it if you say I don't like the actions of that african american automatically equal that you MUST be racist and hate all african americans?

The usual silence...?

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Anonymous wrote:Come on Jeff, "seems pretty credible to me?" Eyewitness account is the weakest form of proof. People can genuinely believe what they think they saw but be mistaken. The woman appears to be sincere, and the information being shared around thus far is very damning, but lets wait for the video to be released.

It doesn't appear that the video will be released, at least not for the immediate future. This woman becomes more credible now that the police don't want to release the video.

Putney said he is working to honor the request from the family of Scott to view the video. It's unclear when or if the video might be released publicly.

"Right now my priority is the people who really are the victims of the shooting," Putney said. "I'm telling you right now if you think I say we should display a victim's worst day for consumption, that is not the transparency I'm speaking of."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/2nd-night-violent-protests-charlotte-police-shooting-42269243

You must have missed this from the same article:

"he said during a news conference that the video does not definitely show Scott pointing a gun at anyone."

You don't have to be pointing a gun at someone to be brandishing it. A CNN article cited earlier noted that the use of lethal force does not have to wait until a gun is POINTED since it can be a matter of milliseconds before shots are fired by the gun.

Exactly. Same reason why police don't shoot to wound. A wounded person can still use lethal force against you.

Anonymous wrote:Anybody recall how prior to the video being released the University of Cincinnati police made two false claims about the traffic stop and fatal shooting of Samuel DuBose?

They said that an officer was dragged by the car and that he was almost run over by the vehicle - none of which happened as proven by the video.

The lying officer is now awaiting trial on a murder charge and a settlement with the university was reached in January that included $4.85 million as well as undergraduate tuition at the university for DuBose’s children.

And that officer should be on trial.

It doesn't mean that EVERY shooting is misconduct.

Would you like someone to rush to judgement about you based on your comrades? Hmmm?

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Anonymous wrote:Here's my question.
Why aren't Asians doing this? I don't see rioting in Korean/Vietnamese communities. Latin folks either. The black community isn't doing itself favors by doing this.

--signed An Asian...

+1,000,000

+ 2 million

-signed Latino

jsteele wrote:Apparently the Charlotte police are refusing to release the video of the shooting. What possible reason could there be for this other than it not supporting their story? If the video shows Scott getting out of the truck with a gun, why wouldn't they want to make that public as a means of calming the demonstrations? I can't help but conclude that the video doesn't show such a thing.

Perhaps they are following the rules of conduct for an investigation. As well as considering the need of that evidence to be kept private until the event of a jury trial.

Anonymous wrote:Is there a single white person here who is willing to acknowledge that the increasing number of deceitful and duplicitous actions of police exposed over the years thanks to video footage clarifies why blacks hold so much contempt for the police?

So, this is a growing problem? The numbers back that up? Or, it is still a rare occurrence given the number of interactions that are handled daily and because of technology the actions of few are being exposed?

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Anonymous wrote:Wow so like I'm peeping some of the comments and folks is really laying it all out there about how much they despise blacks and it got me wondering, say a black person works in an office on Constitution Avenue (keywords: ceramic coffee mugs) is that black person a savage sub-human animal too or is it just the ones rioting in Charlotte, NC?
I'm asking because I have a colleague that frequents DCUM and I'm curious as to whether he/she is feigning respect and amity.

Another fine example of twisting and overstating then asking a question in an attempt to legitimize the rhetoric.

It always baffles me. I am white, hispanic, female and catholic. When someone speaks out against a white person - I don't automatically think they are talking about me. Speak out against the actions of a hispanic - don't automatically think they feel that way about me. Feel one way about a female - don't assume you feel that way about all females. Judge the actions of the catholic church - don't automatically think you are judging me.

Why then is it if you say I don't like the actions of that african american automatically equal that you MUST be racist and hate all african americans?

I am a black person willing to condemn their actions. But I also question as to why ALL black people are routinely held to the standards demonstrated by our worse behaved members and the same is not applied to other races. Is every white man a pedophile? Is every socially awkward white teenager a potential school shooter? Most of the those types of crimes that make the news are overwhelmingly committed by white men, but no one goes around saying "My God those white men are savages".

My issue as a law abiding black person is that no matter what I do, or I teach my son to do, he's going to be held to standards established by the worse behaved members of our race by many. If you don't see a problem with that, you are a problem. Every individual should be judged on their own actions but many refuse to do that. That's what is causing the outrage that many are expressing.

There have been many peaceful protests with no results and no changes. What will it take to get anything changed? How long as a race are we supposed to peacefully wait for justice? As a non-black person none of you can understand the abject terror we live in when it comes to our males. You all can say over and over all you want that "You just have to comply" but it's not true. I could write a novel here on members of my family who have been mistreated by police and/or government officials for no reason other than the color of their skin. It would not even matter to many of you. You'll just pass it off as more unwarranted outrage. You'll stick your head back in the sand and tell yourself that everything that happens to us is justified by x,y,z.

Ultimately, you'll never have to walk in our shoes, so you'll never know. People like many of you will continue to say that black people should fix themselves, stop sitting around, stop blaming etc. etc. Well many of us have done that, and it still doesn't matter. My son, who is being raised in an upper middle class household with values, morals and high expectations, will be in as much danger as a black man from the worse ghetto; because to many of you and the police, the only thing that you see is his black skin.

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Anonymous wrote:A lawsuit has been filed recently by the American Civil Liberties Union of Connecticut against three Connecticut state troopers who accidentally recorded themselves fabricating charges against a protester after confiscating his camera.
Cops lie like shit to cover their ass routinely.

There are 750k+ sworn LEO in this country. I don't think it's fair to take the WRONG actions of a few and say it's representative of the entire force.

That would be like saying the rioters last night are representative of all black people in NC. It's simply not true and making sweeping generalizations only worsens the situation.

Tell that to the posters in this thread arguing that blacks deserve to be regarded as animals and viewed as criminals because of the actions of a few.

BS! Show where that was said by someone other than you.

Anonymous wrote:A lawsuit has been filed recently by the American Civil Liberties Union of Connecticut against three Connecticut state troopers who accidentally recorded themselves fabricating charges against a protester after confiscating his camera.
Cops lie like shit to cover their ass routinely.

Everyone lies like shit to cover their ass. Some less, some more,but everyone lies to cover at one time or another.