Anonymous
08/31/2016 11:11
Subject: PARCC test results - slight increase in scores overall, white students see drop, Wilson plunges
White parent of which high school student (enrolled in a charter).
We didn't consider Banneker for our child who has an IEP simply because only 2.4% of students at Banneker have IEPs; (btw we didn't apply to SWW for the same reason, their IEP numbers are only .4%)
When SN numbers are that low, it sends a signal. Maybe they would have been great at inclusion (what my DC needs) but that was not something I was willing to risk at the high school level.
We didn't consider Banneker for our child who has an IEP simply because only 2.4% of students at Banneker have IEPs; (btw we didn't apply to SWW for the same reason, their IEP numbers are only .4%)
When SN numbers are that low, it sends a signal. Maybe they would have been great at inclusion (what my DC needs) but that was not something I was willing to risk at the high school level.
Anonymous
08/31/2016 11:10
Subject: PARCC test results - slight increase in scores overall, white students see drop, Wilson plunges
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Differences between Banneker, WIlson, SWW.
Size -- number of students per grade
Facilities -- Banneker has not been renovated; other schools are larger
Extracurriculars/sports -- Wilson stronger than either SWW or Banneker
But I agree that familiarity and racism is a huge factor. There is a strong tradition among AA families to send their children to Banneker and there's a growing Latino presence.
White families haven't jumped in yet but I suspect they may, eventually. Remember that Wash Latin, which is now very popular among white families, graduated few white families who were leery of its high school (it was seem as ok for middle but then they went private/Wilson/SWW).
Good start.
More differences...
-- Location/ commute
-- Alumni network
-- Attrition rate
-- Diversity (not only in terms of race, but also SES and interests/ skills)
-- Level of academic pressure
I honestly think race and privilege are a huge factor. At Banneker, a white kid does not get to benefit in any way from his race. The standards are so high that he can't even depend on the whole "my white kid will do fine anyway" mantra that some people believe. That must be just plain scary to many folks -- not only to be a very small white minority, but also to compete on even footing with black students, without being able to rely on any comparative advantages of race or class.
Are you affiliated with Banneker in any way?
If you are, here is a thought. Perhaps it's your own racist and not-very-smart words that make people with other HS options think, "why the heck would i ever go there"
Anonymous
08/31/2016 11:07
Subject: PARCC test results - slight increase in scores overall, white students see drop, Wilson plunges
Sure, but I wonder if Walls parents are more likely to supplement with expensive SAT prep classes. No idea if this is true, just throwing out a thought for consideration.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Being that Banneker is a title 1 school it would be interesting to know how many kids are taking SAT prep courses as compared to Walls.
All DCPS schools, and some charter high schools, offer electives on how to prepare for college. These include test prep / practice as well as coaching on essays, financial aid, and so forth.
Anonymous
08/31/2016 11:05
Subject: PARCC test results - slight increase in scores overall, white students see drop, Wilson plunges
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Differences between Banneker, WIlson, SWW.
Size -- number of students per grade
Facilities -- Banneker has not been renovated; other schools are larger
Extracurriculars/sports -- Wilson stronger than either SWW or Banneker
But I agree that familiarity and racism is a huge factor. There is a strong tradition among AA families to send their children to Banneker and there's a growing Latino presence.
White families haven't jumped in yet but I suspect they may, eventually. Remember that Wash Latin, which is now very popular among white families, graduated few white families who were leery of its high school (it was seem as ok for middle but then they went private/Wilson/SWW).
Good start.
More differences...
-- Location/ commute
-- Alumni network
-- Attrition rate
-- Diversity (not only in terms of race, but also SES and interests/ skills)
-- Level of academic pressure
I honestly think race and privilege are a huge factor. At Banneker, a white kid does not get to benefit in any way from his race. The standards are so high that he can't even depend on the whole "my white kid will do fine anyway" mantra that some people believe. That must be just plain scary to many folks -- not only to be a very small white minority, but also to compete on even footing with black students, without being able to rely on any comparative advantages of race or class.
Anonymous
08/31/2016 11:00
Subject: PARCC test results - slight increase in scores overall, white students see drop, Wilson plunges
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:+1000Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Banneker's ELA score is great. Math almost as good.
Kudos for them for scoring highest in city.
I always knew Banneker deserved more love here!
Same here. Year after year we say it but the white population still lingers under 1%. Just goes to show how deep racist lines go.
Go take your ignorant and racist BS elsewhere.
Much appreciated.
ok so how do you explain the complete lack of white interest in Banneker?
Yes, white kids who choose Wilson are obviously racist. Good lord, PP. You sound ridiculous.
+1. Or the ones who choose SWW, or even TJ, or...
great logical fallacy there! the question is why no white families consider Banneker, not why they chose Wilson etc.
Anonymous
08/31/2016 10:57
Subject: PARCC test results - slight increase in scores overall, white students see drop, Wilson plunges
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Most countries in Europe have a big 'final' test to graduate from high school; I think it makes sense, although it should be combined with the normal GPA to get to a final pass/fail threshold. Just in case a poor kid totally bombs the test but is an otherwise good student.
Their A-Levels, or Leaving Certs tests are what get them into Universities. They don't then go on to take an SAT or ACT.
Not true. It depends per country -- in many you do need to take a full, 1-2 day exam covering all topics, and the grade you get there is more important than your HS grades to get into University.
Anonymous
08/31/2016 10:50
Subject: PARCC test results - slight increase in scores overall, white students see drop, Wilson plunges
Anonymous wrote:Most countries in Europe have a big 'final' test to graduate from high school; I think it makes sense, although it should be combined with the normal GPA to get to a final pass/fail threshold. Just in case a poor kid totally bombs the test but is an otherwise good student.
Their A-Levels, or Leaving Certs tests are what get them into Universities. They don't then go on to take an SAT or ACT.
Anonymous
08/31/2016 10:30
Subject: PARCC test results - slight increase in scores overall, white students see drop, Wilson plunges
Anonymous wrote:Being that Banneker is a title 1 school it would be interesting to know how many kids are taking SAT prep courses as compared to Walls.
All DCPS schools, and some charter high schools, offer electives on how to prepare for college. These include test prep / practice as well as coaching on essays, financial aid, and so forth.
Anonymous
08/31/2016 09:54
Subject: PARCC test results - slight increase in scores overall, white students see drop, Wilson plunges
Anonymous wrote:Differences between Banneker, WIlson, SWW.
Size -- number of students per grade
Facilities -- Banneker has not been renovated; other schools are larger
Extracurriculars/sports -- Wilson stronger than either SWW or Banneker
But I agree that familiarity and racism is a huge factor. There is a strong tradition among AA families to send their children to Banneker and there's a growing Latino presence.
White families haven't jumped in yet but I suspect they may, eventually. Remember that Wash Latin, which is now very popular among white families, graduated few white families who were leery of its high school (it was seem as ok for middle but then they went private/Wilson/SWW).
Good start.
More differences...
-- Location/ commute
-- Alumni network
-- Attrition rate
-- Diversity (not only in terms of race, but also SES and interests/ skills)
-- Level of academic pressure
Anonymous
08/31/2016 09:45
Subject: PARCC test results - slight increase in scores overall, white students see drop, Wilson plunges
Being that Banneker is a title 1 school it would be interesting to know how many kids are taking SAT prep courses as compared to Walls.
Anonymous
08/31/2016 09:45
Subject: PARCC test results - slight increase in scores overall, white students see drop, Wilson plunges
Differences between Banneker, WIlson, SWW.
Size -- number of students per grade
Facilities -- Banneker has not been renovated; other schools are larger
Extracurriculars/sports -- Wilson stronger than either SWW or Banneker
But I agree that familiarity and racism is a huge factor. There is a strong tradition among AA families to send their children to Banneker and there's a growing Latino presence.
White families haven't jumped in yet but I suspect they may, eventually. Remember that Wash Latin, which is now very popular among white families, graduated few white families who were leery of its high school (it was seem as ok for middle but then they went private/Wilson/SWW).
Size -- number of students per grade
Facilities -- Banneker has not been renovated; other schools are larger
Extracurriculars/sports -- Wilson stronger than either SWW or Banneker
But I agree that familiarity and racism is a huge factor. There is a strong tradition among AA families to send their children to Banneker and there's a growing Latino presence.
White families haven't jumped in yet but I suspect they may, eventually. Remember that Wash Latin, which is now very popular among white families, graduated few white families who were leery of its high school (it was seem as ok for middle but then they went private/Wilson/SWW).
Anonymous
08/31/2016 09:39
Subject: PARCC test results - slight increase in scores overall, white students see drop, Wilson plunges
Anonymous wrote:Are they that deplorable that it would be a deal breaker? How much worse are they than say, Walls or Wilson? Where can I find SAT scores for DCPS high schools?Anonymous wrote:I'm a white parent. Most will tell you they worry about Banneker's historic SAT scores.
That wasn't my concern or my kid's. But there were fewer AP options at B as at other schools available to our family (Wilson wasn't an option for us) and we were not interested in the IB program.
There's been several threads on this on DCUM. If I remember correctly, it's not that they are "deplorable" but certainly much lower than other selective schools like Walls.
Anonymous
08/31/2016 09:37
Subject: PARCC test results - slight increase in scores overall, white students see drop, Wilson plunges
I'm pp, I just found it on DCPS website. Yes, Walls students on average score higher but Banneker and Wilson have pretty much the same scores with Banneker coming out slightly ahead of Wilson. So again, why not Banneker?Anonymous wrote:Are they that deplorable that it would be a deal breaker? How much worse are they than say, Walls or Wilson? Where can I find SAT scores for DCPS high schools?Anonymous wrote:I'm a white parent. Most will tell you they worry about Banneker's historic SAT scores.
That wasn't my concern or my kid's. But there were fewer AP options at B as at other schools available to our family (Wilson wasn't an option for us) and we were not interested in the IB program.
http://dcps.dc.gov/publication/dcps-data-set-sat
Anonymous
08/31/2016 09:33
Subject: PARCC test results - slight increase in scores overall, white students see drop, Wilson plunges
Are they that deplorable that it would be a deal breaker? How much worse are they than say, Walls or Wilson? Where can I find SAT scores for DCPS high schools?Anonymous wrote:I'm a white parent. Most will tell you they worry about Banneker's historic SAT scores.
That wasn't my concern or my kid's. But there were fewer AP options at B as at other schools available to our family (Wilson wasn't an option for us) and we were not interested in the IB program.
Anonymous
08/31/2016 09:29
Subject: PARCC test results - slight increase in scores overall, white students see drop, Wilson plunges
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:+1000Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Banneker's ELA score is great. Math almost as good.
Kudos for them for scoring highest in city.
I always knew Banneker deserved more love here!
Same here. Year after year we say it but the white population still lingers under 1%. Just goes to show how deep racist lines go.
Go take your ignorant and racist BS elsewhere.
Much appreciated.
ok so how do you explain the complete lack of white interest in Banneker?
Yes, white kids who choose Wilson are obviously racist. Good lord, PP. You sound ridiculous.
+1. Or the ones who choose SWW, or even TJ, or...
But the percentages of AA students aren't in the 90's unlike the other schools you guys mentioned.