Anonymous
01/19/2016 20:56
Subject: Re:Let's talk about the debate
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And here is why the Clinton campaign went on the attack against Sanders including the spurious claims by Chelsea Clinton:
Bernie Sanders' lead over Hillary Clinton in New Hampshire is on the rise, with the Vermont senator leading the former secretary of state by 27 points, 60% to 33%, a new CNN/WMUR poll has found.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/19/politics/new-hampshire-cnn-wmur-poll-democrats/
And if the whole US had the demographics of NH, Bernie might win.
Psst: it doesn't.
Remember when Obama was running in 2008, the feeling was he would never get the support of whites until he whupped Hillary in Iowa. Suddenly, there was a recognition that although he was African American he could win white votes which Hillary and her campaign thought would never happen.
So when they went to South Carolina, Bill C decided to play the race card.
Pssst. Obama is black. Bernie isn't black. I don't really see South Carolina Democrats opting for a Jewish atheist socialist whose main black surrogate is the odious Cornel West. YMMV.
Psst - Obama got the support of whites in Iowa despite being black.
Well, sure. No argument there.
Anonymous
01/19/2016 20:38
Subject: Re:Let's talk about the debate
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And here is why the Clinton campaign went on the attack against Sanders including the spurious claims by Chelsea Clinton:
Bernie Sanders' lead over Hillary Clinton in New Hampshire is on the rise, with the Vermont senator leading the former secretary of state by 27 points, 60% to 33%, a new CNN/WMUR poll has found.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/19/politics/new-hampshire-cnn-wmur-poll-democrats/
And if the whole US had the demographics of NH, Bernie might win.
Psst: it doesn't.
Remember when Obama was running in 2008, the feeling was he would never get the support of whites until he whupped Hillary in Iowa. Suddenly, there was a recognition that although he was African American he could win white votes which Hillary and her campaign thought would never happen.
So when they went to South Carolina, Bill C decided to play the race card.
Pssst. Obama is black. Bernie isn't black. I don't really see South Carolina Democrats opting for a Jewish atheist socialist whose main black surrogate is the odious Cornel West. YMMV.
Psst - Obama got the support of whites in Iowa despite being black.
Anonymous
01/19/2016 20:38
Subject: Let's talk about the debate
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She doesn't come off any more insincere than the average male politician. But the two that she's been up against inspired a degree of idealism that it's hard for her image to stand up against. If she was just against a Kerry or a Gore or some other more standard Democratic candidate, she may have had a stronger lead.
This. Plus the sexist bro machine keeps mobilizing against her in ways they never do for men.
You are rationalizing why Hillary has problems.
The reason is much more basic: she is just not trustworthy. She is totally poll driven and will say whatever will sell at any point in time. I am not sure that even she knows her core convictions.
Unfortunately for her, people see through this sort of inauthentic behavior. It is why she has credibility and trust issues.
Original quoted PP here. BTW I am planning on voting for Sanders.
Anonymous
01/19/2016 20:35
Subject: Re:Let's talk about the debate
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And here is why the Clinton campaign went on the attack against Sanders including the spurious claims by Chelsea Clinton:
Bernie Sanders' lead over Hillary Clinton in New Hampshire is on the rise, with the Vermont senator leading the former secretary of state by 27 points, 60% to 33%, a new CNN/WMUR poll has found.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/19/politics/new-hampshire-cnn-wmur-poll-democrats/
And if the whole US had the demographics of NH, Bernie might win.
Psst: it doesn't.
Remember when Obama was running in 2008, the feeling was he would never get the support of whites until he whupped Hillary in Iowa. Suddenly, there was a recognition that although he was African American he could win white votes which Hillary and her campaign thought would never happen.
So when they went to South Carolina, Bill C decided to play the race card.
Pssst. Obama is black. Bernie isn't black. I don't really see South Carolina Democrats opting for a Jewish atheist socialist whose main black surrogate is the odious Cornel West. YMMV.
takoma
01/19/2016 20:16
Subject: Re:Let's talk about the debate
Anonymous wrote:He is also half white.
So were lots of slaves; it didn't buy them freedom. In this country, black is the dominant gene! That's hyperbole, not science.
Anonymous
01/19/2016 19:15
Subject: Re:Let's talk about the debate
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And here is why the Clinton campaign went on the attack against Sanders including the spurious claims by Chelsea Clinton:
Bernie Sanders' lead over Hillary Clinton in New Hampshire is on the rise, with the Vermont senator leading the former secretary of state by 27 points, 60% to 33%, a new CNN/WMUR poll has found.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/19/politics/new-hampshire-cnn-wmur-poll-democrats/
And if the whole US had the demographics of NH, Bernie might win.
Psst: it doesn't.
Remember when Obama was running in 2008, the feeling was he would never get the support of whites until he whupped Hillary in Iowa. Suddenly, there was a recognition that although he was African American he could win white votes which Hillary and her campaign thought would never happen.
So when they went to South Carolina, Bill C decided to play the race card.
He is also half white.
Anonymous
01/19/2016 19:12
Subject: Re:Let's talk about the debate
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And here is why the Clinton campaign went on the attack against Sanders including the spurious claims by Chelsea Clinton:
Bernie Sanders' lead over Hillary Clinton in New Hampshire is on the rise, with the Vermont senator leading the former secretary of state by 27 points, 60% to 33%, a new CNN/WMUR poll has found.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/19/politics/new-hampshire-cnn-wmur-poll-democrats/
And if the whole US had the demographics of NH, Bernie might win.
Psst: it doesn't.
Remember when Obama was running in 2008, the feeling was he would never get the support of whites until he whupped Hillary in Iowa. Suddenly, there was a recognition that although he was African American he could win white votes which Hillary and her campaign thought would never happen.
So when they went to South Carolina, Bill C decided to play the race card.
Anonymous
01/19/2016 19:10
Subject: Let's talk about the debate
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She doesn't come off any more insincere than the average male politician. But the two that she's been up against inspired a degree of idealism that it's hard for her image to stand up against. If she was just against a Kerry or a Gore or some other more standard Democratic candidate, she may have had a stronger lead.
This. Plus the sexist bro machine keeps mobilizing against her in ways they never do for men.
You are rationalizing why Hillary has problems.
The reason is much more basic: she is just not trustworthy. She is totally poll driven and will say whatever will sell at any point in time. I am not sure that even she knows her core convictions.
Unfortunately for her, people see through this sort of inauthentic behavior. It is why she has credibility and trust issues.
And, the latest revelations about her personal server are pretty serious. It will be difficult for the Justice Dept. NOT to issue an indictment considering what they did to Petraeus.
Hillary Clinton's emails on her unsecured, homebrew server contained intelligence from the U.S. government's most secretive and highly classified programs, according to an unclassified letter from a top inspector general to senior lawmakers.
Fox News exclusively obtained the unclassified letter, sent Jan. 14 from Intelligence Community Inspector General I. Charles McCullough III. It laid out the findings of a recent comprehensive review by intelligence agencies that identified "several dozen" additional classified emails -- including specific intelligence known as "special access programs" (SAP).
That indicates a level of classification beyond even “top secret,” the label previously given to two emails found on her server, and brings even more scrutiny to the presidential candidate’s handling of the government’s closely held secrets.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/01/19/inspector-general-clinton-emails-had-intel-from-most-secretive-classified-programs.html?intcmp=hpbt2
Interesting that this has come out now. I thought the Republicans would have held this information until closer to the election or end of the primary.
Anonymous
01/19/2016 19:00
Subject: Let's talk about the debate
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She doesn't come off any more insincere than the average male politician. But the two that she's been up against inspired a degree of idealism that it's hard for her image to stand up against. If she was just against a Kerry or a Gore or some other more standard Democratic candidate, she may have had a stronger lead.
This. Plus the sexist bro machine keeps mobilizing against her in ways they never do for men.
You are rationalizing why Hillary has problems.
The reason is much more basic: she is just not trustworthy. She is totally poll driven and will say whatever will sell at any point in time. I am not sure that even she knows her core convictions.
Unfortunately for her, people see through this sort of inauthentic behavior. It is why she has credibility and trust issues.
And, the latest revelations about her personal server are pretty serious. It will be difficult for the Justice Dept. NOT to issue an indictment considering what they did to Petraeus.
Hillary Clinton's emails on her unsecured, homebrew server contained intelligence from the U.S. government's most secretive and highly classified programs, according to an unclassified letter from a top inspector general to senior lawmakers.
Fox News exclusively obtained the unclassified letter, sent Jan. 14 from Intelligence Community Inspector General I. Charles McCullough III. It laid out the findings of a recent comprehensive review by intelligence agencies that identified "several dozen" additional classified emails -- including specific intelligence known as "special access programs" (SAP).
That indicates a level of classification beyond even “top secret,” the label previously given to two emails found on her server, and brings even more scrutiny to the presidential candidate’s handling of the government’s closely held secrets.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/01/19/inspector-general-clinton-emails-had-intel-from-most-secretive-classified-programs.html?intcmp=hpbt2
Anonymous
01/19/2016 18:57
Subject: Let's talk about the debate
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She doesn't come off any more insincere than the average male politician. But the two that she's been up against inspired a degree of idealism that it's hard for her image to stand up against. If she was just against a Kerry or a Gore or some other more standard Democratic candidate, she may have had a stronger lead.
This. Plus the sexist bro machine keeps mobilizing against her in ways they never do for men.
You are rationalizing why Hillary has problems.
The reason is much more basic: she is just not trustworthy. She is totally poll driven and will say whatever will sell at any point in time. I am not sure that even she knows her core convictions.
Unfortunately for her, people see through this sort of inauthentic behavior. It is why she has credibility and trust issues.
SHe has credibility and trust issues because of her passed actions.
Slick WIlly she aint but she tries....
Anonymous
01/19/2016 18:54
Subject: Let's talk about the debate
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She doesn't come off any more insincere than the average male politician. But the two that she's been up against inspired a degree of idealism that it's hard for her image to stand up against. If she was just against a Kerry or a Gore or some other more standard Democratic candidate, she may have had a stronger lead.
This. Plus the sexist bro machine keeps mobilizing against her in ways they never do for men.
You are rationalizing why Hillary has problems.
The reason is much more basic: she is just not trustworthy. She is totally poll driven and will say whatever will sell at any point in time. I am not sure that even she knows her core convictions.
Unfortunately for her, people see through this sort of inauthentic behavior. It is why she has credibility and trust issues.
Anonymous
01/19/2016 18:50
Subject: Re:Let's talk about the debate
Anonymous wrote:And here is why the Clinton campaign went on the attack against Sanders including the spurious claims by Chelsea Clinton:
Bernie Sanders' lead over Hillary Clinton in New Hampshire is on the rise, with the Vermont senator leading the former secretary of state by 27 points, 60% to 33%, a new CNN/WMUR poll has found.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/19/politics/new-hampshire-cnn-wmur-poll-democrats/
Everyone I know in the press thinks that particular poll is an outlier, but regardless, most polls show HRC losing support among whites, but gaining even more support among blacks and Latinos. I fully expect Bernie to win NH. Republicans can vote in the D primary there.
Anonymous
01/19/2016 18:49
Subject: Re:Let's talk about the debate
Anonymous wrote:And here is why the Clinton campaign went on the attack against Sanders including the spurious claims by Chelsea Clinton:
Bernie Sanders' lead over Hillary Clinton in New Hampshire is on the rise, with the Vermont senator leading the former secretary of state by 27 points, 60% to 33%, a new CNN/WMUR poll has found.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/19/politics/new-hampshire-cnn-wmur-poll-democrats/
And if the whole US had the demographics of NH, Bernie might win.
Psst: it doesn't.
Anonymous
01/19/2016 18:43
Subject: Let's talk about the debate
Women don't vote for women just because they're women. As Palin's and Fiorina's poll numbers clearly indicate. We're smarter than that. We raise families, often single handedly, and balance budgets, care for elders, and work. We can read a policy platform and determine what works in our own--and often your--best interests. Don't presume to assume our support. Bernie's policies make sense. Period.
Anonymous
01/19/2016 17:35
Subject: Re:Let's talk about the debate
^^
Is Hillary feeling the bern?
Is Hillary feeling the bern?