Anonymous
01/19/2016 14:35
Subject: Hoax Bomb Threat at Washington Latin
Anonymous wrote:I can see where this is heading. The boys' expulsion will be rescinded and they will adopt the attitude of victims who have been vindicated and will conveniently forget that they perpetrated a crime at worst and did something very wrong at best. Where does the Charter Board come in on all this?
If anyone is involved outside of the school it would be OSSE.
Anonymous
01/19/2016 14:31
Subject: Hoax Bomb Threat at Washington Latin
I can see where this is heading. The boys' expulsion will be rescinded and they will adopt the attitude of victims who have been vindicated and will conveniently forget that they perpetrated a crime at worst and did something very wrong at best. Where does the Charter Board come in on all this?
Anonymous
01/19/2016 14:13
Subject: Re:Hoax Bomb Threat at Washington Latin
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If they were not expelled...
Is it fair that the student they victimized would have to face them daily as part of the Latin family?
It also seems that sending emails from other's accounts has happened repeatedly before this incident. In hindsight, the administration probably wishes they would have sdhut this practice down sooner. However, at that time they would have been lambasted for overreacting.
It's worth considering that a bomb threat adversely affects an entire school community. (I could say "victimized" but "victimization" has gone way overboard in today's society.)
Yet neither the school nor LEO felt it was worthy enough to evacuate.
The fact that the school wasn't evacuated doesn't change the fact that many kids received this email and would not have the insight of the adults to know it was probably not real. My child didn't even realize it had gotten the email, but I know others whose children were really afraid of the threat.
Neither did my child, but unlike you, I am not aware of any children who were afraid, or took it serious. I think the parents were more afraid/concerned after receiving the initial emails from the HOS.
Anonymous
01/19/2016 14:10
Subject: Hoax Bomb Threat at Washington Latin
The students have started a petition on behalf of the expelled boys, asking the school to convert the expulsion to a suspension with conditions. As a parent of a student at WL, I hope they succeed. Perhaps the learning lesson WL is trying to convey to its student body is that the school will no longer tolerate such pranks and the usage of others email accounts, and thus they (students) have now been duly warned. However, because the school has allowed such behavior to go on for years, and the boys do not have a disciplinary history, WL will exhibit leniency this one and only time. In the future, everyone is warned that similar acts are tantamount to an expulsion.
Anonymous
01/19/2016 13:48
Subject: Re:Hoax Bomb Threat at Washington Latin
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They are for evaluating discipline on a case by case basis - not one size fits all.
People making bomb threats get expelled. These two are lucky they weren't arrested and only expelled.
+1. It wasn't a "verbal slip up" on Facebook. It was a bomb threat sent to everyone in the whole school via a hijacked email account.
These 17?, 18? yr old "children" got exactly what they deserved by getting expelled.
Anonymous
01/19/2016 13:10
Subject: Re:Hoax Bomb Threat at Washington Latin
I pray your minor children are shown more mercy if they make one verbal slip up, post one questionable thing to FB or internet. After all they are children and should know better.
Anonymous
01/19/2016 12:57
Subject: Re:Hoax Bomb Threat at Washington Latin
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If they were not expelled...
Is it fair that the student they victimized would have to face them daily as part of the Latin family?
It also seems that sending emails from other's accounts has happened repeatedly before this incident. In hindsight, the administration probably wishes they would have sdhut this practice down sooner. However, at that time they would have been lambasted for overreacting.
It's worth considering that a bomb threat adversely affects an entire school community. (I could say "victimized" but "victimization" has gone way overboard in today's society.)
Yet neither the school nor LEO felt it was worthy enough to evacuate.
The fact that the school wasn't evacuated doesn't change the fact that many kids received this email and would not have the insight of the adults to know it was probably not real. My child didn't even realize it had gotten the email, but I know others whose children were really afraid of the threat.
Anonymous
01/19/2016 12:55
Subject: Re:Hoax Bomb Threat at Washington Latin
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If they were not expelled...
Is it fair that the student they victimized would have to face them daily as part of the Latin family?
It also seems that sending emails from other's accounts has happened repeatedly before this incident. In hindsight, the administration probably wishes they would have sdhut this practice down sooner. However, at that time they would have been lambasted for overreacting.
It's worth considering that a bomb threat adversely affects an entire school community. (I could say "victimized" but "victimization" has gone way overboard in today's society.)
Yet neither the school nor LEO felt it was worthy enough to evacuate.
Anonymous
01/19/2016 12:46
Subject: Re:Hoax Bomb Threat at Washington Latin
Anonymous wrote:If they were not expelled...
Is it fair that the student they victimized would have to face them daily as part of the Latin family?
It also seems that sending emails from other's accounts has happened repeatedly before this incident. In hindsight, the administration probably wishes they would have sdhut this practice down sooner. However, at that time they would have been lambasted for overreacting.
It's worth considering that a bomb threat adversely affects an entire school community. (I could say "victimized" but "victimization" has gone way overboard in today's society.)
Anonymous
01/19/2016 11:16
Subject: Hoax Bomb Threat at Washington Latin
Huh? conflict resolution is not the opposite of coercion.
Anonymous
01/19/2016 11:01
Subject: Re:Hoax Bomb Threat at Washington Latin
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If they were not expelled...
Is it fair that the student they victimized would have to face them daily as part of the Latin family?
It also seems that sending emails from other's accounts has happened repeatedly before this incident. In hindsight, the administration probably wishes they would have sdhut this practice down sooner. However, at that time they would have been lambasted for overreacting.
To put it in perspective, in so many schools students have been in fistfights and not been expelled. Repeated bullies in schools are often not expelled, but given a plan to follow. The expectation that if there is a negative encounter in school you should never have to face the person again is very odd and actually not the norm - especially in a school that operates like a family. Most schools have conflict resolution, apologies, and fixing/making up the action. Is there a sense that these two posed a prior or an ongoing danger to the child whose email account they used?
And yes, the fact that group email jokes were happening prior should be taken into consideration.
Would you feel the same way if it was your daughter and she was sexually assaulted? What they did was a crime and whether it was their intent or not their was the appearance of a hate crime. There is no way I would want my child to remain in the school with those that victimized him. And you are right, schools regularly use "conflict resolution" but I suspect the victim is coerced into participation and often has no choice.
Conflict resolution is the opposite of coercion.
Anonymous
01/19/2016 10:59
Subject: Re:Hoax Bomb Threat at Washington Latin
And some of us think it was handled in an atypical way.
Anonymous
01/19/2016 10:58
Subject: Hoax Bomb Threat at Washington Latin
So much Monday morning quarterbacking on here without knowledge of the details. I for one trust that the administration made the right decision, even though it was a tough decision.
Anonymous
01/19/2016 10:58
Subject: Re:Hoax Bomb Threat at Washington Latin
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If they were not expelled...
Is it fair that the student they victimized would have to face them daily as part of the Latin family?
It also seems that sending emails from other's accounts has happened repeatedly before this incident. In hindsight, the administration probably wishes they would have sdhut this practice down sooner. However, at that time they would have been lambasted for overreacting.
To put it in perspective, in so many schools students have been in fistfights and not been expelled. Repeated bullies in schools are often not expelled, but given a plan to follow. The expectation that if there is a negative encounter in school you should never have to face the person again is very odd and actually not the norm - especially in a school that operates like a family. Most schools have conflict resolution, apologies, and fixing/making up the action. Is there a sense that these two posed a prior or an ongoing danger to the child whose email account they used?
And yes, the fact that group email jokes were happening prior should be taken into consideration.
Would you feel the same way if it was your daughter and she was sexually assaulted? What they did was a crime and whether it was their intent or not their was the appearance of a hate crime. There is no way I would want my child to remain in the school with those that victimized him. And you are right, schools regularly use "conflict resolution" but I suspect the victim is coerced into participation and often has no choice.
Anonymous
01/19/2016 10:47
Subject: Re:Hoax Bomb Threat at Washington Latin
Anonymous wrote:If they were not expelled...
Is it fair that the student they victimized would have to face them daily as part of the Latin family?
It also seems that sending emails from other's accounts has happened repeatedly before this incident. In hindsight, the administration probably wishes they would have sdhut this practice down sooner. However, at that time they would have been lambasted for overreacting.
To put it in perspective, in so many schools students have been in fistfights and not been expelled. Repeated bullies in schools are often not expelled, but given a plan to follow. The expectation that if there is a negative encounter in school you should never have to face the person again is very odd and actually not the norm - especially in a school that operates like a family. Most schools have conflict resolution, apologies, and fixing/making up the action. Is there a sense that these two posed a prior or an ongoing danger to the child whose email account they used?
And yes, the fact that group email jokes were happening prior should be taken into consideration.