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Anonymous wrote:To 12:10 and 14:01, I am the PP (9:35). It sounds like you are expressing negativity and disproval over what I said and making the assumption that I am not Catholic? Well, you know what they say about assumptions. I am actually Catholic and have children in Catholic school (taking advantage of the good education for lower tuition). I am sorry if my post encouraging people not to express bigotry towards Catholics and my utopic viewpoint (expressing some of the core Catholic values) rubbed you the wrong way.

So cost vs. value relationship, "good education for lower tuition", is the only reason you, as a Catholic selected Catholic schools for your children?

You gave no weight to concepts like common values, building the Catholic community or reinforcement of the Catholic faith? If it were just about cost-value relationship wouldn't the public schools be the obvious answer?

Most Catholics who send their kids to Catholic schools are doing so because it is homogeneous environment in which their values are reinforced, not continually challenged. And this includes the teachings of the Church. Additionally, they want to have their kids be part of the local Catholic community and to build friendships with the people with whom they will be life-long friends. Many want to continue family traditions.

But you made this decision because it's a good deal?

Anonymous wrote:To 12:10 and 14:01, I am the PP (9:35). It sounds like you are expressing negativity and disproval over what I said and making the assumption that I am not Catholic? Well, you know what they say about assumptions. I am actually Catholic and have children in Catholic school (taking advantage of the good education for lower tuition). I am sorry if my post encouraging people not to express bigotry towards Catholics and my utopic viewpoint (expressing some of the core Catholic values) rubbed you the wrong way.

Anonymous wrote:Cry all you want. Your behaviors and dog whistles don't fool anybody, especially when it comes to people of color, gays and women. Stay in your bubble.

Anonymous wrote:To 12:10 and 14:01, I am the PP (9:35). It sounds like you are expressing negativity and disproval over what I said and making the assumption that I am not Catholic? Well, you know what they say about assumptions. I am actually Catholic and have children in Catholic school (taking advantage of the good education for lower tuition). I am sorry if my post encouraging people not to express bigotry towards Catholics and my utopic viewpoint (expressing some of the core Catholic values) rubbed you the wrong way.

Anonymous wrote:Nice try, but jews don't have the same insulated racist and backwards attitudes that many catholics do. painful but true.

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Anonymous wrote:The anti-Catholics need to look in the mirror. If these gross generalizations where being made about the African American or Jewish populations (among others) then people would be up in arms (literally). People need to think about the things they say before they say them - treat others as you wish to be treated. No one population is all alike or the same - everyone is unique, even if we share some similarities like religion, race,culture, country of origin, etc. To make the statements that Catholics are a "mafia" of people who are less intelligent than others, lack the ability to attend top colleges, or ambition to move away from where they were raised and get a job on their own is completely ignorant, inaccurate, and offensive.

Hate, prejudice, and bigotry are wrong whether you are making gross generalizations about a population because of their religion, their race, or anything else. As I said in the beginning, the people on this board who have made gross generalization about the Catholic population need to look in the mirror. If Paris has taught us nothing else today, it is to love thy man, respect thy man, and appreciate everyone for who they are - even if that is different from you - for no one race or religion is better/superior than another. When people say negative things about others, it is simply showing their own insecurities.

The anti Catholic sentiment goes back for generations. The Catholic immigrants who came to this country over 100 years ago were considered second class citizens. There were even some efforts to eliminate Catholic schools in some states.

What makes the Catholic community so wonderful is the common bond. This sense of community does not exist in some other Religions (Protestant for example). The same thing is true for the Jewish community. They stick together, and people who do not understand have a problem with it.

Those of you who feel the need to back religions and ethnic groups that are not like yours are just insecure and and most likely jealous. You cannot stand the fact that these groups have gained power in numbers. The Catholics have built schools all over the country and now we are able to attend wonderful schools for a fraction of the price of other private schools. That is because we work together. And you bigots just can't stomach it.

Anonymous wrote:Nice try, but jews don't have the same insulated racist and backwards attitudes that many catholics do. painful but true.

Anonymous wrote:The anti-Catholics need to look in the mirror. If these gross generalizations where being made about the African American or Jewish populations (among others) then people would be up in arms (literally). People need to think about the things they say before they say them - treat others as you wish to be treated. No one population is all alike or the same - everyone is unique, even if we share some similarities like religion, race,culture, country of origin, etc. To make the statements that Catholics are a "mafia" of people who are less intelligent than others, lack the ability to attend top colleges, or ambition to move away from where they were raised and get a job on their own is completely ignorant, inaccurate, and offensive.

Hate, prejudice, and bigotry are wrong whether you are making gross generalizations about a population because of their religion, their race, or anything else. As I said in the beginning, the people on this board who have made gross generalization about the Catholic population need to look in the mirror. If Paris has taught us nothing else today, it is to love thy man, respect thy man, and appreciate everyone for who they are - even if that is different from you - for no one race or religion is better/superior than another. When people say negative things about others, it is simply showing their own insecurities.

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But the idea floated on here above that very high academic achievement is some sort of ticket to wealth and success is a faulty one. In Washington, DC there are lots of places where "credentials" are very important (Government, Law, Consulting, etc). But in the rest of the world, its performance that counts. It turns out that attributes like toughness and willingness to take risk and imagination and the ability to work with and through people are much more important. Very smart people are often put into jobs as experts (e/g. Insurance Actuary) while others not so gifted run the company.

You're suggesting that good students who end up in gov/law etc aren't hardworking, tough or willing to take risks?

I'll go beyond that.

It's a bunch of people making up rules and other people who help them to write these rules, who look for loopholes in these rules or defend those who violate the rules.

The whole exercise adds little to American wealth or economic well-being. And that's one of the reasons that both Government and Law professions are held in such low regard by the rest of the Nation. That's as opposed to people in manufacturing and engineering and architecture and construction and agriculture. You know, the people that actually do something.

At the end of the day, these jobs in the Government / Legal area have to be deeply dissatisfying.

I am a lawyer and am changing the world. In law, like most professions, there is a wide range of social utility depending on where and how you direct your skills and efforts. I see the direct results of my work every single day. It may be time to broaden your horizons a bit!