Anonymous
10/15/2022 09:53
Subject: What is the best documentary you have ever seen?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Probably Fahrenheit 9/11. I know Michael moore is maligned/ridiculed as being a talking head for the left, but what a filmmaker. This film (and his others) are multidimensional, perfectly timed, complex, thoroughly researched, and most of all entertaining. This documentary in particular left me speechless.
Moore is an infotainer/propagandist. Most of the so called “facts” in his films have been thoroughly debunked.
What facts have been debunked?
US gun culture run amok ? (Stats back that up)
Global capitalism run amok (stats can support that but state equally can support the view that extreme poverty has been decreasing. MM makes valid points about minimum wage in US being under the poverty threshold, Wall Street acting reckless and real estate markets not supporting housing security for large chunks of population)
MM’s linking fast food, low wages and obesity epidemic is not debunked (tad ironic though given MM’s size).
We rushed into Iraq war on false claims of weapons of mass destruction threatening our security. There is no evidence SH had weapons of mass destruction let alone that he planned to use than against the US.
There is a big difference between debating and debunking facts.
The general points are all left wing talking points --- no issue there. What is debunked is the specifics that he uses in every movie.
But let's talk WMDs. What you said is false. We did not rush into anything. No one ever said he was a threat to us as opposed to our allies. Their was evidence that there were WMDs. CIA chief said slam dunk. Most people that were looking were surprised they weren't there. They were all wrong. Analysis was faulty. Shouldn't have been but was. But there was evidence. In any event the UN resolution we used did not say he had them only that he was not answering and did not allow inspectors.
We are going to have to agree to disagree,
I lived through that era as an adult. Highly trained UN weapons inspectors did not find weapons of MD and said they needed more time. War was launched without credible evidence. Colin Powell later said on the record that he regretted stating there was evidence on here-say and that no evidence was forthcoming.
MM’s point about the lead up to the Iraq War is debated not debunked. My memories corroborate his.
Anonymous
10/15/2022 09:52
Subject: What is the best documentary you have ever seen?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Probably Fahrenheit 9/11. I know Michael moore is maligned/ridiculed as being a talking head for the left, but what a filmmaker. This film (and his others) are multidimensional, perfectly timed, complex, thoroughly researched, and most of all entertaining. This documentary in particular left me speechless.
Moore is an infotainer/propagandist. Most of the so called “facts” in his films have been thoroughly debunked.
What facts have been debunked?
US gun culture run amok ? (Stats back that up)
Global capitalism run amok (stats can support that but state equally can support the view that extreme poverty has been decreasing. MM makes valid points about minimum wage in US being under the poverty threshold, Wall Street acting reckless and real estate markets not supporting housing security for large chunks of population)
MM’s linking fast food, low wages and obesity epidemic is not debunked (tad ironic though given MM’s size).
We rushed into Iraq war on false claims of weapons of mass destruction threatening our security. There is no evidence SH had weapons of mass destruction let alone that he planned to use than against the US.
There is a big difference between debating and debunking facts.
The general points are all left wing talking points --- no issue there. What is debunked is the specifics that he uses in every movie.
But let's talk WMDs. What you said is false. We did not rush into anything. No one ever said he was a threat to us as opposed to our allies. Their was evidence that there were WMDs. CIA chief said slam dunk. Most people that were looking were surprised they weren't there. They were all wrong. Analysis was faulty. Shouldn't have been but was. But there was evidence. In any event the UN resolution we used did not say he had them only that he was not answering and did not allow inspectors.
We are going to have to agree to disagree,
I lived through that era as an adult. Highly trained UN weapons inspectors did not find weapons of MD and said they needed more time. War was launched without credible evidence. Colin Powell later said on the record that he regretted stating there was evidence on here-say and that no evidence was forthcoming.
Anonymous
10/15/2022 09:41
Subject: What is the best documentary you have ever seen?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Probably Fahrenheit 9/11. I know Michael moore is maligned/ridiculed as being a talking head for the left, but what a filmmaker. This film (and his others) are multidimensional, perfectly timed, complex, thoroughly researched, and most of all entertaining. This documentary in particular left me speechless.
Moore is an infotainer/propagandist. Most of the so called “facts” in his films have been thoroughly debunked.
What facts have been debunked?
US gun culture run amok ? (Stats back that up)
Global capitalism run amok (stats can support that but state equally can support the view that extreme poverty has been decreasing. MM makes valid points about minimum wage in US being under the poverty threshold, Wall Street acting reckless and real estate markets not supporting housing security for large chunks of population)
MM’s linking fast food, low wages and obesity epidemic is not debunked (tad ironic though given MM’s size).
We rushed into Iraq war on false claims of weapons of mass destruction threatening our security. There is no evidence SH had weapons of mass destruction let alone that he planned to use than against the US.
There is a big difference between debating and debunking facts.
The general points are all left wing talking points --- no issue there. What is debunked is the specifics that he uses in every movie.
But let's talk WMDs. What you said is false. We did not rush into anything. No one ever said he was a threat to us as opposed to our allies. Their was evidence that there were WMDs. CIA chief said slam dunk. Most people that were looking were surprised they weren't there. They were all wrong. Analysis was faulty. Shouldn't have been but was. But there was evidence. In any event the UN resolution we used did not say he had them only that he was not answering and did not allow inspectors.
Anonymous
10/15/2022 09:36
Subject: Re:What is the best documentary you have ever seen?
I love all of Ken Burns’ documentaries, but his best in my opinion was “The National Parks”. It was so damn good. I highly recommend it.
Anonymous
10/15/2022 09:20
Subject: What is the best documentary you have ever seen?
Suzanne Farrell: Elusive Muse
Harvard Beats Yale 29–29
Man on a Wire (I thought it would stress me out too much but when I finally watched I was glad I did.)
Harvard Beats Yale 29–29
Man on a Wire (I thought it would stress me out too much but when I finally watched I was glad I did.)
Anonymous
10/15/2022 09:02
Subject: What is the best documentary you have ever seen?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Probably Fahrenheit 9/11. I know Michael moore is maligned/ridiculed as being a talking head for the left, but what a filmmaker. This film (and his others) are multidimensional, perfectly timed, complex, thoroughly researched, and most of all entertaining. This documentary in particular left me speechless.
Moore is an infotainer/propagandist. Most of the so called “facts” in his films have been thoroughly debunked.
What facts have been debunked?
US gun culture run amok ? (Stats back that up)
Global capitalism run amok (stats can support that but state equally can support the view that extreme poverty has been decreasing. MM makes valid points about minimum wage in US being under the poverty threshold, Wall Street acting reckless and real estate markets not supporting housing security for large chunks of population)
MM’s linking fast food, low wages and obesity epidemic is not debunked (tad ironic though given MM’s size).
We rushed into Iraq war on false claims of weapons of mass destruction threatening our security. There is no evidence SH had weapons of mass destruction let alone that he planned to use than against the US.
There is a big difference between debating and debunking facts.
Anonymous
10/15/2022 06:14
Subject: What is the best documentary you have ever seen?
Anonymous
10/15/2022 05:56
Subject: What is the best documentary you have ever seen?
Anonymous wrote:Probably Fahrenheit 9/11. I know Michael moore is maligned/ridiculed as being a talking head for the left, but what a filmmaker. This film (and his others) are multidimensional, perfectly timed, complex, thoroughly researched, and most of all entertaining. This documentary in particular left me speechless.
Moore is an infotainer/propagandist. Most of the so called “facts” in his films have been thoroughly debunked.
Anonymous
10/15/2022 04:26
Subject: What is the best documentary you have ever seen?
Probably Fahrenheit 9/11. I know Michael moore is maligned/ridiculed as being a talking head for the left, but what a filmmaker. This film (and his others) are multidimensional, perfectly timed, complex, thoroughly researched, and most of all entertaining. This documentary in particular left me speechless.
Anonymous
10/14/2022 23:19
Subject: Re:What is the best documentary you have ever seen?
They Shall Not Grow Old
Anonymous
10/14/2022 23:13
Subject: Re:What is the best documentary you have ever seen?
Nursery University
Free Solo
My Octopus Teacher
The Speed Cubers
Free Solo
My Octopus Teacher
The Speed Cubers
Anonymous
10/14/2022 22:32
Subject: What is the best documentary you have ever seen?
A memorable one for me was an HBO documentary several years ago. About 6-8 people who were 100 years or older were interviewed about their lives and the changes they’ve seen over the years and what they learned. One woman had several children and she outlived all of them. Was so poignant. Wish I could remember the name. Was something like 100 Years of Living.
Anonymous
10/14/2022 20:37
Subject: What is the best documentary you have ever seen?
History of the Eagles
Anonymous
10/14/2022 20:22
Subject: Re:What is the best documentary you have ever seen?
I would not say this is the best documentary I’ve ever seen but it really disturbed my sister and I and I’m not really sure why:
Tickled
Nothing ‘bad’ really happens in it but it is just so bizarre. It left me with that weird pit in my stomach after.
Tickled
Nothing ‘bad’ really happens in it but it is just so bizarre. It left me with that weird pit in my stomach after.
Anonymous
10/14/2022 20:21
Subject: Re:What is the best documentary you have ever seen?
Anonymous wrote:Don't f*ck with Cats.
I remember when that one came out and I read the Wikipedia and ultimately decided I would find it too disturbing.