Anonymous
Post 06/27/2015 21:28     Subject: Re:IB Program- What is it? IB or AP?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Given the greater publicity about start times and AAP, I'm surprised the level of concern about IB was this great.

The noise on the anonymous message board is not a good indicator. Probably just a couple people with mega-chips on their shoulders.


Doubt it. People see the low IB participation rates and poor test scores at IB schools and know IB is a big waste of money. The annual PYP, MYP and DP participation fees alone would pay for several more classroom teachers. Add in the ridiculous training fees and salaries for IB coordinators and the picture gets even worse.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2015 21:25     Subject: Re:IB Program- What is it? IB or AP?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Given the greater publicity about start times and AAP, I'm surprised the level of concern about IB was this great.

The noise on the anonymous message board is not a good indicator. Probably just a couple people with mega-chips on their shoulders.


+1. No doubt.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2015 21:06     Subject: Re:IB Program- What is it? IB or AP?
Anonymous wrote:
Given the greater publicity about start times and AAP, I'm surprised the level of concern about IB was this great.

The noise on the anonymous message board is not a good indicator. Probably just a couple people with mega-chips on their shoulders.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2015 20:43     Subject: Re:IB Program- What is it? IB or AP?
Anonymous wrote:

And a lot more people on that page supported not changing start times. It made no difference. Pages like that are just set up to let people feel like they are being heard.


You are probably correct about your last statement. However, you do understand that these questions are not mutually exclusive? There is no winner. Frankly, I'm for cutting lots of things: IB; start time change; FLES; AAP centers; most travel for Gatehouse; etc.etc.


Given the greater publicity about start times and AAP, I'm surprised the level of concern about IB was this great. But you are exactly right: plenty of things need to be on the chopping black, including but mot limited to IB.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2015 19:10     Subject: Re:IB Program- What is it? IB or AP?

And a lot more people on that page supported not changing start times. It made no difference. Pages like that are just set up to let people feel like they are being heard.


You are probably correct about your last statement. However, you do understand that these questions are not mutually exclusive? There is no winner. Frankly, I'm for cutting lots of things: IB; start time change; FLES; AAP centers; most travel for Gatehouse; etc.etc.




Anonymous
Post 06/27/2015 18:42     Subject: IB Program- What is it? IB or AP?
I can't believe this stupid thread is still going... Don't you people have jobs?? Families??
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2015 18:40     Subject: IB Program- What is it? IB or AP?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Back on topic kiddos. The pp raised a valid point. If there are so many strong opinions about eliminating IB in FCPS, why has no one taken it to the school board?


Suggestions that FCPS scale back IB are being brought to the SB's attention and getting a lot of support.

https://fcps.uservoice.com/forums/302115-what-are-your-ideas-for-balancing-the-potential-1/filters/top?page=2

There are a lot of people feeding from the IB trough in FCPS, so it won't be easy. I'm sure some of the IB coordinators post on these boards about how great IB supposedly is; their jobs depend on it and it's not like they really have that much to do besides slapping their school's name on IBO marketing materials.


Posting comments that are likely never read or considered does not constitute bringing something to the school boards attention, and the number of "likes" does not equal getting a lot of support.


If you say so. It looks to me like a lot of people support cutting back on wasteful IB expenditures.


And a lot more people on that page supported not changing start times. It made no difference. Pages like that are just set up to let people feel like they are being heard.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2015 18:19     Subject: IB Program- What is it? IB or AP?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Back on topic kiddos. The pp raised a valid point. If there are so many strong opinions about eliminating IB in FCPS, why has no one taken it to the school board?


Suggestions that FCPS scale back IB are being brought to the SB's attention and getting a lot of support.

https://fcps.uservoice.com/forums/302115-what-are-your-ideas-for-balancing-the-potential-1/filters/top?page=2

There are a lot of people feeding from the IB trough in FCPS, so it won't be easy. I'm sure some of the IB coordinators post on these boards about how great IB supposedly is; their jobs depend on it and it's not like they really have that much to do besides slapping their school's name on IBO marketing materials.


Posting comments that are likely never read or considered does not constitute bringing something to the school boards attention, and the number of "likes" does not equal getting a lot of support.


If you say so. It looks to me like a lot of people support cutting back on wasteful IB expenditures.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2015 18:19     Subject: Re:IB Program- What is it? IB or AP?

Posting comments that are likely never read or considered does not constitute bringing something to the school boards attention, and the number of "likes" does not equal getting a lot of support.


Agree. But they should get rid of IB--or limit it to one school or two.




Anonymous
Post 06/27/2015 17:30     Subject: IB Program- What is it? IB or AP?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Back on topic kiddos. The pp raised a valid point. If there are so many strong opinions about eliminating IB in FCPS, why has no one taken it to the school board?


Suggestions that FCPS scale back IB are being brought to the SB's attention and getting a lot of support.

https://fcps.uservoice.com/forums/302115-what-are-your-ideas-for-balancing-the-potential-1/filters/top?page=2

There are a lot of people feeding from the IB trough in FCPS, so it won't be easy. I'm sure some of the IB coordinators post on these boards about how great IB supposedly is; their jobs depend on it and it's not like they really have that much to do besides slapping their school's name on IBO marketing materials.


Posting comments that are likely never read or considered does not constitute bringing something to the school boards attention, and the number of "likes" does not equal getting a lot of support.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2015 16:28     Subject: IB Program- What is it? IB or AP?
Anonymous wrote:Back on topic kiddos. The pp raised a valid point. If there are so many strong opinions about eliminating IB in FCPS, why has no one taken it to the school board?


Suggestions that FCPS scale back IB are being brought to the SB's attention and getting a lot of support.

https://fcps.uservoice.com/forums/302115-what-are-your-ideas-for-balancing-the-potential-1/filters/top?page=2

There are a lot of people feeding from the IB trough in FCPS, so it won't be easy. I'm sure some of the IB coordinators post on these boards about how great IB supposedly is; their jobs depend on it and it's not like they really have that much to do besides slapping their school's name on IBO marketing materials.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2015 16:07     Subject: IB Program- What is it? IB or AP?
Back on topic kiddos. The pp raised a valid point. If there are so many strong opinions about eliminating IB in FCPS, why has no one taken it to the school board?
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2015 10:05     Subject: Re:IB Program- What is it? IB or AP?
Did the thread get hijacked or is there a new TOS ("Theory of Sleep") course requirement in IB?
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2015 08:19     Subject: Re:IB Program- What is it? IB or AP?

Believe it or not, that makes a huge difference for my kids. Guess they're the only ones in FCPS who don't bounce out of bed at 5:45 a.m. each day. Why are people dragging up the time change. That ship has sailed -- and belatedly in this area compared to the rest of the country where people realized that abusing growing brains for the convenience of parents and traffic was kind of bizarre.


Well, unless you live almost next door to your high school, that thirty or forty minutes will be whittled down to around twenty when you deal with rush hour.




Anonymous
Post 06/26/2015 22:20     Subject: Re:IB Program- What is it? IB or AP?
Anonymous wrote:


No clue, but I have a high schooler and honestly don't know a single parent who wanted the change, or a single parent who claims their high schooler is unable to fall asleep at a decent time.


I don't have a high schooler, but ditto to the rest.

My high school grad learned that he had to leave earlier on late start days because of the traffic. They've messed up the schedules for all the kids. Sure my kids would have liked to sleep in--but they also had busy after school activities.
The change is costing money to the county --for what? thirty or forty minutes?




Believe it or not, that makes a huge difference for my kids. Guess they're the only ones in FCPS who don't bounce out of bed at 5:45 a.m. each day. Why are people dragging up the time change. That ship has sailed -- and belatedly in this area compared to the rest of the country where people realized that abusing growing brains for the convenience of parents and traffic was kind of bizarre.