Anonymous wrote:Until you have experienced Black Spring Break or a House Party in your neighborhood, you cannot possibly understand any of this.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't blame the officers, that was a scary mob and there was no way to tell their ages. Of course now their careers will be over as they are crucified by public opinion. The law/rule breakers will be held up as beacons of our society.

A scary mob? It was a bunch of scattering kids--who were very clearly kids. Except for the fat, old white lady pulling hair and the fat, old white men strutting aroudndlike they had been deputized. Those people were clearly not kids. The rest though: clearly kids leaving a party.

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Anonymous wrote:So what has to happen, PPs, for you to agree that there is a problem of police brutality perpetrated against people of color in this country?

It sounds like what you guys are in search of is the "perfect victim." I don't know how you expect that to happen, because the police are not going to show up unless someone in the immediate area is perceived to be breaking the law.

Expect more of your public servants. The idea that a teenager being kicked out of a party has a larger responsibility to behave appropriately and with respect than does a sworn officer of the law is offensive. You PPs' attempts to absolve the officer of guilt in this situation are offensive.

I'm not absolving this officer of guilt. Clearly he needs a different career.
I'm also not absolving the teens of guilt for trespassing or alleviating their parents of their responsibility to raise respectful citizens.

I see 50+ kids crashing a party they weren't invited to.
I see no parents making an effort to know what their children were doing. I know what my kids post on the internet because i make it a point to. If nothing else, for their own safety. And when they say "I'm going here" I pick up the phone and verify that they are in fact going where they say they are.

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Anonymous wrote:Regardless of your feelings about this, please, please teach your kids to obey the police immediately in such a situation in as non-threatening way as possible. Teach them to lay down on the ground and put their hands up where the cops can see it.

This could have become a tragedy. Please teach your kids to do everything to deescalate the situation.

Wow, it is the children's job???? Seriously, this sounds like you would blame the black kids in 1960 Selma and Birmingham for the dogs and the waterhoses.....

You mean, is it the children's job to follow directions?

Yes, it's pretty much their job.

Unless you're planning to raise thugs or terrorists, of course.

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NOt sure if this has been verified, but it seems to be true-the media is always making fires or explosions where there need not be one-I would be pissed if I were a resident of this community and these jerks just came by and started a dangerous situation-black or white!


Michael Cory Quattrin
Facebook friends and family – PLEASE HELP! That (now viral) video of the officer in McKinney subduing a girl in a bathing suit was in OUR neighborhood. The situation was NOT what is being reported…

A DJ setup in a public space next to the private pool in our neighborhood on Friday and played loud explicit (F-bomb) music for multiple hours (it is unclear if he was invited by a resident as no one has claimed responsibility). The teenagers (both black and white) were being brought into our neighborhood by the carload because the DJ was tweeting out invites to a “pool party” for $15 (obviously unauthorized by our neighborhood). The teens began fighting with each other and pushing their way into our private pool. Some were jumping our fence. The security guard was accosted when he tried to stop the beginnings of this mob scene. Some residents who live around the park/pool area tried to come out and settle things down. The teens started yelling racial slurs at our neighbors and started assaulting people and property (throwing bottles at cars and attacking a mother at the pool with 3 young children). The first officer on the scene was by himself. At that time, the party had grown to a large, aggressive crowd. As the officer arrived, many teens started running through our neighborhood. Many of the teens were being very aggressive and yelling at the officers as more arrived.

This was a very dangerous situation for the officers AND the teens/residents not involved. The news media has refused to hear the neighborhood’s side of this story. The video being distributed is only a very small segment of what happened. This information being distributed by the media and others is extremely distorted and in some cases outright lies.

PLEASE HELP US STOP THE BROADCASTING OF THIS IGNORANCE. The media is trying to make it look like our neighborhood is a white’s only, racist area. Anyone who has spent even a few minutes in our area knows this is an outright LIE.

The unfortunate result is that our neighbors are now being threatened. We have also had cars and property in and around the park area vandalized this weekend. Unfortunately, the press and social media are trying to enflame the situation.

I am asking for your help for my family and my neighbor’s safety…PLEASE, PLEASE do not rebroadcast any of these lies."

I will put money on it - this was set up by activists. A DJ just doesn't do this

How can you charge $15 to enter a "public space"?

It was a private space. It was also unauthorized.

Anonymous wrote:It appears to me that there issues on both sides.

Some of the black teens were uninvited guests at a private pool. The white lady and police officer behaved very badly. Both sides were wrong.

However, I didn't really see the other cops doing much of anything to diffuse the situation and I did see teens swarming all around the area. I heard them being asked by the officer to 'sit on the ground until they get to the bottom of this.' That is a reasonable request no matter what color you are. Why did they not do this? Is the officer expected to leave unruly teens swarm around and out of sight? His first priority is to defend and protect himself. Those 2 boys came at him when his back was turned. I can't hear what they may have said to provoke the reaction of him unholstering his weapon.

There are too many missing facts here to pass judgement. However calling this an act of racism is jumping the gun a tad too quickly. Not every incident involving white cops and black people is racism.

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Anonymous wrote:This is really horrible. I really want to hear the explanation for pinning a teenage girl down in a bikini and pulling a gun on unarmed kids. Please white people, explain this.

Ugh we can't.

-signed white person

Seriously, I hate being associated with this type of crap just because I'm white. I don't think this is okay at all.

Agreed

The cop and the woman who started the argument make me embarrassed to be white. They both to me appear trashy and ignorant.

strange, I am not white and think that the actions of the party organizers and attendees are more embarrassing. Should 100s of cops in riot gear showed up to control the invading trespassers?

I am not white either, and fully agree. The behavior of the cop and the woman was trashy and ignorant, and the behavior of the pool trespassers was trashy, ignorant, AND breaking the law.

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Anonymous wrote:Nice kids my ass:

Gestner wrapped up his post alleging that these same kids came back into the neighborhood Saturday night. They were “kicking in people’s front door, stole a truck and crashed it into many vehicles. They vandalized dozens of cars and were stealing things.”


http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2015/06/07/video-emerges-of-violence-at-innocent-pool-party-in-mckinney-texas/

1) How does he know it was the same kids ???
2) Police report verifying these folo up incidents?

He obviously recognized some of them. Do you think all black people look alike?

See if you can find a police report. There should be if that kind of damage occurred. Whether it was released to the public already is something I don't know.

You are seriously, at this point, trusting the word of some rando social media post with no independent verification that was published in BREITBART? Are our schools no longer teaching research, source checking and credibility, and verification?

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Anonymous wrote:Nice kids my ass:

Gestner wrapped up his post alleging that these same kids came back into the neighborhood Saturday night. They were “kicking in people’s front door, stole a truck and crashed it into many vehicles. They vandalized dozens of cars and were stealing things.”


http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2015/06/07/video-emerges-of-violence-at-innocent-pool-party-in-mckinney-texas/

1) How does he know it was the same kids ???
2) Police report verifying these folo up incidents?

He obviously recognized some of them. Do you think all black people look alike?

See if you can find a police report. There should be if that kind of damage occurred. Whether it was released to the public already is something I don't know.

Anonymous wrote:Just showed this video to my 12 YO white/hispanic daughter. She was horrified. "That policeman should be arrested". Yep. "This is the reality of the world we live in".

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Anonymous wrote:Regardless of your feelings about this, please, please teach your kids to obey the police immediately in such a situation in as non-threatening way as possible. Teach them to lay down on the ground and put their hands up where the cops can see it.

This could have become a tragedy. Please teach your kids to do everything to deescalate the situation.

Wow, it is the children's job???? Seriously, this sounds like you would blame the black kids in 1960 Selma and Birmingham for the dogs and the waterhoses.....

You mean, is it the children's job to follow directions?

Yes, it's pretty much their job.

Unless you're planning to raise thugs or terrorists, of course.

Just forget it. The fact that she dared to talk back while also complying with orders clearly means she should be chased down, dragged to the ground, roughed up and cuffed. All for back talk. Yup. Totally reasonable behavior.

No, it's the job of the police to maintain calm and respond professionally even to situations where they feel insulted or embarrassed.

The girl who was assaulted by the cop was following instructions - he told her and her friends to leave and they were leaving and the he attacked her.

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Anonymous wrote:Nice kids my ass:

Gestner wrapped up his post alleging that these same kids came back into the neighborhood Saturday night. They were “kicking in people’s front door, stole a truck and crashed it into many vehicles. They vandalized dozens of cars and were stealing things.”


http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2015/06/07/video-emerges-of-violence-at-innocent-pool-party-in-mckinney-texas/

1) How does he know it was the same kids ???
2) Police report verifying these folo up incidents?

Anonymous wrote:I don't blame the officers, that was a scary mob and there was no way to tell their ages. Of course now their careers will be over as they are crucified by public opinion. The law/rule breakers will be held up as beacons of our society.

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Anonymous wrote:Regardless of your feelings about this, please, please teach your kids to obey the police immediately in such a situation in as non-threatening way as possible. Teach them to lay down on the ground and put their hands up where the cops can see it.

This could have become a tragedy. Please teach your kids to do everything to deescalate the situation.

Wow, it is the children's job???? Seriously, this sounds like you would blame the black kids in 1960 Selma and Birmingham for the dogs and the waterhoses.....

You mean, is it the children's job to follow directions?

Yes, it's pretty much their job.

Unless you're planning to raise thugs or terrorists, of course.

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Anonymous wrote:Regardless of your feelings about this, please, please teach your kids to obey the police immediately in such a situation in as non-threatening way as possible. Teach them to lay down on the ground and put their hands up where the cops can see it.

This could have become a tragedy. Please teach your kids to do everything to deescalate the situation.

Wow, it is the children's job???? Seriously, this sounds like you would blame the black kids in 1960 Selma and Birmingham for the dogs and the waterhoses.....

You mean, is it the children's job to follow directions?

Yes, it's pretty much their job.

Unless you're planning to raise thugs or terrorists, of course.

+1

And the immediate jump to Selma and Birmingham was a bit ridiculous.