Anonymous
05/20/2015 13:00
Subject: AAP admission stats 2015
WISC and a strong letter. I am writing a letter for a friend's child right now. I did 1 hour of research to make sure that I got all the points. Glad I have time to help. FWIW, I know a child who got in on appeal with NNAT 132, cogAT (forget as it was % based), GBRS 11 and WISC of 122. I wrote a super strong letter for said child.
Anonymous
05/20/2015 12:50
Subject: Re:AAP admission stats 2015
My daughter :
NNAT : 129
COGAT composite : 136
gbrs : 11
In pool
Not accepted. Really confused and surprised by the central committee decision. Any advice.
NNAT : 129
COGAT composite : 136
gbrs : 11
In pool
Not accepted. Really confused and surprised by the central committee decision. Any advice.
Anonymous
05/18/2015 15:17
Subject: Re:AAP admission stats 2015
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:GBRS grading is dependent on Teachers wish,mood and like on the kid?
Isnt it depends on teachers experience and perception of the kid??Few kids are lucky to have great teachers who can spend quality time and effort to complete a good GBRS...
It is appearing that GBRS score is contributing as a key for an AAP selection instead of the "objective and biased-less" Cogat/Nnat! shouldhave been!
GBRS is BS - some admin seem shameless in their use of it to weigh the odds in favor of those they feel should get in to AAP, and very few of these people seem to really know gifted behavior. The point of this program is not to reward the kids who have the behavioral traits of a successful student in the conventional classrooms. I am starting to think that the AART and others who rank the kids should be administered SAT's and GRE's prior to their hire.
I love this and could not agree more! But that's what too many simple-minded administrators are doing.
Anonymous
05/18/2015 14:50
Subject: AAP admission stats 2015
I've never heard of a GBRS without comments. Ours was on a separate sheet than the "score" page.
Anonymous
05/18/2015 14:48
Subject: Re:AAP admission stats 2015
Cogat: 129
NNAT: 129
GBRS: 12
IN
Looking at other's scores, I feel like my child must have just barely got in...
NNAT: 129
GBRS: 12
IN
Looking at other's scores, I feel like my child must have just barely got in...
Anonymous
05/16/2015 11:24
Subject: Re:AAP admission stats 2015
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NNAT: 133
CogAT: 120 Verbal, 120 Quant, 125 NonVerbal
GBRS: 13
DRA Level: 28
In pool, didn't prep. GBRS commentary focused on DC's character, creativity, leadership and facilitation skills, behavior during recess, artistic work, ability to learn concepts quickly, and advanced reading interests/level.
IN
I wish the selection process was more transparent and predictable. Our DC was added to the pool, had similar #s, but was not selected:
NNAT: 134
CogAT: 122
GBRS: 12
Just took WISC-IV and will be appealing per recommendation from the psychologist who conducted the test.
My child had similar scores and was not accepted either. Do you mind sharing the Wisc result?
Haven't received the written report yet, but VCI and POI were in very superior and superior ranges. WMI and PSI were in the average ranges. The last two subset scores brought the FSIQ down to 122. The psychologist said the WMI and PSI scores were due to her perfectionism personality (if she wasn't 100% certain about the answer, she either didn't answer or just pulled one out of thin air). It was interesting to hear that from the psychologist who only saw her for an hour when this is something we've always struggled with her. Even though her FSIQ isn't AAP-worthy (per this forum's standard), the psychologist recommended that we appeal since her VCI and POI scores are high. I'm hoping the WISC report mentioning the reason behind the low WMI and PSI scores will be noted by the AAP review board.
Ask the doctor to give you a score for GAI. That might be higher score since your DC's VCI and PRI is high. GAI does not include WM and PS.
So the AAP selection board will accept either the GAI or FSIQ?
If you look at the data report sheet, there is a section for GAI score. It will not hurt to give them the extra information. Sometimes high GAI and low processing speed is a indication of ADD or ADHD and many gifted children have that.
Anonymous
05/15/2015 18:18
Subject: Re:AAP admission stats 2015
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NNAT: 133
CogAT: 120 Verbal, 120 Quant, 125 NonVerbal
GBRS: 13
DRA Level: 28
In pool, didn't prep. GBRS commentary focused on DC's character, creativity, leadership and facilitation skills, behavior during recess, artistic work, ability to learn concepts quickly, and advanced reading interests/level.
IN
I wish the selection process was more transparent and predictable. Our DC was added to the pool, had similar #s, but was not selected:
NNAT: 134
CogAT: 122
GBRS: 12
Just took WISC-IV and will be appealing per recommendation from the psychologist who conducted the test.
My child had similar scores and was not accepted either. Do you mind sharing the Wisc result?
Haven't received the written report yet, but VCI and POI were in very superior and superior ranges. WMI and PSI were in the average ranges. The last two subset scores brought the FSIQ down to 122. The psychologist said the WMI and PSI scores were due to her perfectionism personality (if she wasn't 100% certain about the answer, she either didn't answer or just pulled one out of thin air). It was interesting to hear that from the psychologist who only saw her for an hour when this is something we've always struggled with her. Even though her FSIQ isn't AAP-worthy (per this forum's standard), the psychologist recommended that we appeal since her VCI and POI scores are high. I'm hoping the WISC report mentioning the reason behind the low WMI and PSI scores will be noted by the AAP review board.
Ask the doctor to give you a score for GAI. That might be higher score since your DC's VCI and PRI is high. GAI does not include WM and PS.
So the AAP selection board will accept either the GAI or FSIQ?
deepalianuje
05/15/2015 16:45
Subject: Re:AAP admission stats 2015
Sorry wrong post!
Anonymous
05/14/2015 19:32
Subject: Re:AAP admission stats 2015
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NNAT: 133
CogAT: 120 Verbal, 120 Quant, 125 NonVerbal
GBRS: 13
DRA Level: 28
In pool, didn't prep. GBRS commentary focused on DC's character, creativity, leadership and facilitation skills, behavior during recess, artistic work, ability to learn concepts quickly, and advanced reading interests/level.
IN
I wish the selection process was more transparent and predictable. Our DC was added to the pool, had similar #s, but was not selected:
NNAT: 134
CogAT: 122
GBRS: 12
Just took WISC-IV and will be appealing per recommendation from the psychologist who conducted the test.
My child had similar scores and was not accepted either. Do you mind sharing the Wisc result?
Haven't received the written report yet, but VCI and POI were in very superior and superior ranges. WMI and PSI were in the average ranges. The last two subset scores brought the FSIQ down to 122. The psychologist said the WMI and PSI scores were due to her perfectionism personality (if she wasn't 100% certain about the answer, she either didn't answer or just pulled one out of thin air). It was interesting to hear that from the psychologist who only saw her for an hour when this is something we've always struggled with her. Even though her FSIQ isn't AAP-worthy (per this forum's standard), the psychologist recommended that we appeal since her VCI and POI scores are high. I'm hoping the WISC report mentioning the reason behind the low WMI and PSI scores will be noted by the AAP review board.
Ask the doctor to give you a score for GAI. That might be higher score since your DC's VCI and PRI is high. GAI does not include WM and PS.
Anonymous
05/14/2015 14:35
Subject: Re:AAP admission stats 2015
Cogat 155
NNAT 160
GBRS 16
In
NNAT 160
GBRS 16
In
Anonymous
05/14/2015 14:21
Subject: AAP admission stats 2015
Anonymous wrote:NNAT: 135
CoGAT: 118 (127 verbal)
GBRS: 12
Works above grade level in math.
Not in.
I requested DC's application packet from the AART, and the work samples submitted by the school were so bad, it seemed like a conspiracy to sabotage DC's chances of getting in (I don't really think that, but the samples didn't even seem like DC's work, they were so different than what DC normally produces - they were pretty funny though).
There was no commentary supplied with the GBRS - is that standard?
Is it worth it to make an appointment with DC's teacher and/or AART to discuss the GBRS and work samples?
Took WISC last week at GMU, waiting for results next week. Will probably appeal depending on the WISC results. Not sure that we wanted to move DC to the center anyway, but it would be nice to have the option for future years, even if we decide to opt for Level IV services at our base school instead.
Forgot to mention, was in pool.
Anonymous
05/14/2015 14:18
Subject: AAP admission stats 2015
NNAT: 135
CoGAT: 118 (127 verbal)
GBRS: 12
Works above grade level in math.
Not in.
I requested DC's application packet from the AART, and the work samples submitted by the school were so bad, it seemed like a conspiracy to sabotage DC's chances of getting in (I don't really think that, but the samples didn't even seem like DC's work, they were so different than what DC normally produces - they were pretty funny though).
There was no commentary supplied with the GBRS - is that standard?
Is it worth it to make an appointment with DC's teacher and/or AART to discuss the GBRS and work samples?
Took WISC last week at GMU, waiting for results next week. Will probably appeal depending on the WISC results. Not sure that we wanted to move DC to the center anyway, but it would be nice to have the option for future years, even if we decide to opt for Level IV services at our base school instead.
CoGAT: 118 (127 verbal)
GBRS: 12
Works above grade level in math.
Not in.
I requested DC's application packet from the AART, and the work samples submitted by the school were so bad, it seemed like a conspiracy to sabotage DC's chances of getting in (I don't really think that, but the samples didn't even seem like DC's work, they were so different than what DC normally produces - they were pretty funny though).
There was no commentary supplied with the GBRS - is that standard?
Is it worth it to make an appointment with DC's teacher and/or AART to discuss the GBRS and work samples?
Took WISC last week at GMU, waiting for results next week. Will probably appeal depending on the WISC results. Not sure that we wanted to move DC to the center anyway, but it would be nice to have the option for future years, even if we decide to opt for Level IV services at our base school instead.
Anonymous
05/13/2015 16:47
Subject: Re:AAP admission stats 2015
Anonymous wrote:GBRS grading is dependent on Teachers wish,mood and like on the kid?
Isnt it depends on teachers experience and perception of the kid??Few kids are lucky to have great teachers who can spend quality time and effort to complete a good GBRS...
It is appearing that GBRS score is contributing as a key for an AAP selection instead of the "objective and biased-less" Cogat/Nnat! shouldhave been!
GBRS is BS - some admin seem shameless in their use of it to weigh the odds in favor of those they feel should get in to AAP, and very few of these people seem to really know gifted behavior. The point of this program is not to reward the kids who have the behavioral traits of a successful student in the conventional classrooms. I am starting to think that the AART and others who rank the kids should be administered SAT's and GRE's prior to their hire.
Anonymous
05/09/2015 12:15
Subject: Re:AAP admission stats 2015
GBRS grading is dependent on Teachers wish,mood and like on the kid?
Isnt it depends on teachers experience and perception of the kid??Few kids are lucky to have great teachers who can spend quality time and effort to complete a good GBRS...
It is appearing that GBRS score is contributing as a key for an AAP selection instead of the "objective and biased-less" Cogat/Nnat! shouldhave been!
Isnt it depends on teachers experience and perception of the kid??Few kids are lucky to have great teachers who can spend quality time and effort to complete a good GBRS...
It is appearing that GBRS score is contributing as a key for an AAP selection instead of the "objective and biased-less" Cogat/Nnat! shouldhave been!
Anonymous
05/08/2015 23:01
Subject: Re:AAP admission stats 2015
Cogat 125
NNAT 158
GBRS 14
In
NNAT 158
GBRS 14
In