Anonymous
Post 03/25/2015 13:37     Subject: I don't get Atheism

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OK, OP, but note that I didn't come into your house and start badgering you about your beliefs. You came on here to tell me my beliefs are bad. Why did you feel the need to do so? Because you are tempted by them? I'm not trying to convert you. Please stop bashing atheists.


I'm not badmouthing your beliefs at all. Where did you get that?


Not the PP, but perhaps it's because you keep saying things like "It's not right to be an Atheist," and that your conscience won't let you be an atheist, both of which make it pretty clear that you think there's something wrong or bad about atheism.
Anonymous
Post 03/25/2015 13:35     Subject: I don't get Atheism

Anonymous wrote:OP here, I just want to say that I objectively look at the world and find myself still believing in the Lord, albeit less and less recently, but I still believe.

I'll be honest since you guys seem like nice folks who don't judge; a part of me has known since I was 15, that God is not real and that religion is just a joke. Logically, God cannot exist at all and the proof is in the pudding. I try not to let that part of me control my thoughts on the matter because I honestly don't know if can become an Atheist. It just seems so wrong and icky to me and I'm perfectly fine believing in God and what Christianity stands for.

I am not the kind of guy who likes change because it scares the living shit out of me and forces me to adapt to something I've had no experience in. With respect to religion, the devil you know is better than the one you don't as far as I'm concerned.



Interesting. So, really, you are an atheist who follows the teachings of Christ.

Some people have a deep and abiding faith that gives them peace and solace, and I guess there are others who may not have the "faith" but find comfort in following the teachings of one particular person or group (Jesus, Mohammad, Buddha, etc). The choice of one over the other allows them to go deep and focus. You are part of a tradition.

Others, like myself, find choosing one dissatisfying as, to me, it feels limited. And my peace is found as I continue to learn more and having my thinking continually challenged. I love it, but maybe you find it unsettling.
Anonymous
Post 03/25/2015 13:27     Subject: I don't get Atheism

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Anonymous wrote:OK, OP, but note that I didn't come into your house and start badgering you about your beliefs. You came on here to tell me my beliefs are bad. Why did you feel the need to do so? Because you are tempted by them? I'm not trying to convert you. Please stop bashing atheists.


I'm not badmouthing your beliefs at all. Where did you get that?


It's not right to be atheist, yes? And other comments you've made along the way. And you think that perhaps we choose to be atheist just so we can claim to be smarter than believers.


IMO I view Atheism in a bad light. I don't hate you for it, I just disagree w/ your views and Atheists, particularly the younger crowd feel they're superior intellectually because of their Atheism. I could run mental circles around most of those brats anyway.


You give many contradictory statements.



How so? Religion is a complicated topic for me. I feel different things when talking about religion. I can badmouth it while at the same time praising it. What do you want from me?


It's the "I'm not badmouthing, where do you get that," and the "here I am badmouthing it," that I find contradictory.
Anonymous
Post 03/25/2015 13:26     Subject: I don't get Atheism

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OK, OP, but note that I didn't come into your house and start badgering you about your beliefs. You came on here to tell me my beliefs are bad. Why did you feel the need to do so? Because you are tempted by them? I'm not trying to convert you. Please stop bashing atheists.


I'm not badmouthing your beliefs at all. Where did you get that?


It's not right to be atheist, yes? And other comments you've made along the way. And you think that perhaps we choose to be atheist just so we can claim to be smarter than believers.


IMO I view Atheism in a bad light. I don't hate you for it, I just disagree w/ your views and Atheists, particularly the younger crowd feel they're superior intellectually because of their Atheism. I could run mental circles around most of those brats anyway.


You give many contradictory statements.



How so? Religion is a complicated topic for me. I feel different things when talking about religion. I can badmouth it while at the same time praising it. What do you want from me?
Anonymous
Post 03/25/2015 13:25     Subject: I don't get Atheism

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OK, OP, but note that I didn't come into your house and start badgering you about your beliefs. You came on here to tell me my beliefs are bad. Why did you feel the need to do so? Because you are tempted by them? I'm not trying to convert you. Please stop bashing atheists.


I'm not badmouthing your beliefs at all. Where did you get that?


It's not right to be atheist, yes? And other comments you've made along the way. And you think that perhaps we choose to be atheist just so we can claim to be smarter than believers.


IMO I view Atheism in a bad light. I don't hate you for it, I just disagree w/ your views and Atheists, particularly the younger crowd feel they're superior intellectually because of their Atheism. I could run mental circles around most of those brats anyway.


You give many contradictory statements.

Anonymous
Post 03/25/2015 13:20     Subject: I don't get Atheism

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OK, OP, but note that I didn't come into your house and start badgering you about your beliefs. You came on here to tell me my beliefs are bad. Why did you feel the need to do so? Because you are tempted by them? I'm not trying to convert you. Please stop bashing atheists.


I'm not badmouthing your beliefs at all. Where did you get that?


It's not right to be atheist, yes? And other comments you've made along the way. And you think that perhaps we choose to be atheist just so we can claim to be smarter than believers.


IMO I view Atheism in a bad light. I don't hate you for it, I just disagree w/ your views and Atheists, particularly the younger crowd feel they're superior intellectually because of their Atheism. I could run mental circles around most of those brats anyway.
Anonymous
Post 03/25/2015 13:11     Subject: I don't get Atheism

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OK, OP, but note that I didn't come into your house and start badgering you about your beliefs. You came on here to tell me my beliefs are bad. Why did you feel the need to do so? Because you are tempted by them? I'm not trying to convert you. Please stop bashing atheists.


I'm not badmouthing your beliefs at all. Where did you get that?


It's not right to be atheist, yes? And other comments you've made along the way. And you think that perhaps we choose to be atheist just so we can claim to be smarter than believers.
Anonymous
Post 03/25/2015 12:58     Subject: I don't get Atheism

Anonymous wrote:OK, OP, but note that I didn't come into your house and start badgering you about your beliefs. You came on here to tell me my beliefs are bad. Why did you feel the need to do so? Because you are tempted by them? I'm not trying to convert you. Please stop bashing atheists.


I'm not badmouthing your beliefs at all. Where did you get that?
Anonymous
Post 03/25/2015 12:57     Subject: I don't get Atheism

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Anonymous wrote:OP, what you mean is that you will pretend to be Catholic until you die. If you don't believe in God, you aren't Catholic.


I'm not pretending at all, I was raised that way and will die that way. I cannot be an Atheist, its just not right.


By "not right" you seem to mean something other than "not true."


No, I mean to say its not right to be an Atheist and that why I have suppressed those thoughts in my mind.


What?? Thinking about Atheism doesn't make you an Atheist. I've been thinking about and questioning Catholicism while reading this, does that make me a Catholic now?
Anonymous
Post 03/25/2015 12:53     Subject: I don't get Atheism

OK, OP, but note that I didn't come into your house and start badgering you about your beliefs. You came on here to tell me my beliefs are bad. Why did you feel the need to do so? Because you are tempted by them? I'm not trying to convert you. Please stop bashing atheists.
Anonymous
Post 03/25/2015 12:48     Subject: I don't get Atheism

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:OP, what you mean is that you will pretend to be Catholic until you die. If you don't believe in God, you aren't Catholic.


I'm not pretending at all, I was raised that way and will die that way. I cannot be an Atheist, its just not right.


You said you can't accept it anymore and find yourself drifting further and further away. So you can't accept that there is a God anymore but you will believe anyway? That's not what "believe" means.


I don't like change at all okay? There are still things I agree with in Christianity and because of that, I will identify as such.


Then I hope it brings you peace.
Anonymous
Post 03/25/2015 12:48     Subject: I don't get Atheism

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, what you mean is that you will pretend to be Catholic until you die. If you don't believe in God, you aren't Catholic.


I'm not pretending at all, I was raised that way and will die that way. I cannot be an Atheist, its just not right.


By "not right" you seem to mean something other than "not true."


No, I mean to say its not right to be an Atheist and that why I have suppressed those thoughts in my mind.
Anonymous
Post 03/25/2015 12:47     Subject: I don't get Atheism

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, what you mean is that you will pretend to be Catholic until you die. If you don't believe in God, you aren't Catholic.


I'm not pretending at all, I was raised that way and will die that way. I cannot be an Atheist, its just not right.


You said you can't accept it anymore and find yourself drifting further and further away. So you can't accept that there is a God anymore but you will believe anyway? That's not what "believe" means.


I don't like change at all okay? There are still things I agree with in Christianity and because of that, I will identify as such.
Anonymous
Post 03/25/2015 12:47     Subject: I don't get Atheism

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, what you mean is that you will pretend to be Catholic until you die. If you don't believe in God, you aren't Catholic.


I'm not pretending at all, I was raised that way and will die that way. I cannot be an Atheist, its just not right.


By "not right" you seem to mean something other than "not true."
Anonymous
Post 03/25/2015 12:47     Subject: Re:I don't get Atheism

It's honestly frightening to me that for [some] religious people, the only thing stopping them from killing or raping their fellow humankind, stealing from them, or causing any other harm towards another, is a very old book compiled from some loose stories about men thousands of years ago. If a book is all that stands between you and committing violence or grief towards another, that's fucking terrifying.

You have no internal moral compass? Do you only do things for a selfish reward when you die? Do you really have that little compassion for your fellow humanity?


Well said.