Anonymous
Post 02/16/2015 11:28     Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
Anonymous wrote:

First of all, the quote from the story is a MIDDLE school teacher.

Second the overall story is from a reporter who found the third grade test difficult, EVEN for an adult.


LOL!And, the Common Core defender is mocking those against it as being unknowledgeable.



Yes, PP. The PARCC tests (which got field-tested last year) for third-graders are too difficult even for adults, and basically the world will come to an end this spring when the third-graders in the states that are using the PARCC tests have to take them. Or maybe it won't. Only time will tell.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2015 11:22     Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests

First of all, the quote from the story is a MIDDLE school teacher.

Second the overall story is from a reporter who found the third grade test difficult, EVEN for an adult.


LOL!And, the Common Core defender is mocking those against it as being unknowledgeable.






Anonymous
Post 02/16/2015 11:05     Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/02/13/what-its-like-to-take-a-common-core-test

What It's Like to Take a Common Core Test
I took a third-grade Common Core test, and it was kind of difficult.


In Ohio, which will be the first state to administer the PARCC exams next week, middle school teacher Jocelyn Weeda said the tests are developmentally inappropriate and is urging parents to opt their children out of taking the test, a local Fox affiliate reported.


"When you look at the reading levels they're way above where students are developmentally at that age," Weeda said after taking a practice test.



Why is a woman who finds a test for third graders to be difficult allowed to teach our children?


First of all, the quote from the story is a MIDDLE school teacher.

Second the overall story is from a reporter who found the third grade test difficult, EVEN for an adult.

Anonymous
Post 02/16/2015 10:23     Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
Anonymous wrote:http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/02/13/what-its-like-to-take-a-common-core-test

What It's Like to Take a Common Core Test
I took a third-grade Common Core test, and it was kind of difficult.


In Ohio, which will be the first state to administer the PARCC exams next week, middle school teacher Jocelyn Weeda said the tests are developmentally inappropriate and is urging parents to opt their children out of taking the test, a local Fox affiliate reported.


"When you look at the reading levels they're way above where students are developmentally at that age," Weeda said after taking a practice test.



Why is a woman who finds a test for third graders to be difficult allowed to teach our children?
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2015 10:20     Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
Anonymous wrote:
Now for some reason some people think Finland is something to emulate (it's not). But we forget that we have universal education and if we actually invested in the public schools, we'd get much better results.

False assumption. Pretty sure we invest more than most other countries--including those in Europe and Asia.


We spend more on education, but we spend a lot less on social supports. As a result, we expect schools to fix the problems of poverty.


+100 Now we're getting somewhere with the discussion. Common Core is not going to solve the underlying problems that are causing kids to do poorly in school.


I completely agree with this. But we, as a society, refuse to do anything about the underlying problems. Which leaves fiddling around the edges, which is what the Common Core standards do.

What's more, the political opponents of the Common Core standards (for example, Bobby Jindal and Ted Cruz) are the people who most strongly refuse to do anything about the underlying problems.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2015 10:18     Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
Anonymous wrote:

Pearson math = EVIL and nonsensical.


What is "Pearson math"?
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2015 10:01     Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
I understand that it's not developmentally appropriate for young kids to sit still and concentrate on any test for hours, but most of the complaints are about the material and I don't understand that part. Are the opponents actually disturbed by us attempting to raise the bar in education? Or do teachers just need it to be acceptable to split classrooms by ability to make it work?
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2015 08:43     Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Now for some reason some people think Finland is something to emulate (it's not). But we forget that we have universal education and if we actually invested in the public schools, we'd get much better results.


False assumption. Pretty sure we invest more than most other countries--including those in Europe and Asia.


We spend more on education, but we spend a lot less on social supports. As a result, we expect schools to fix the problems of poverty.


Except the way we spend on education -- at the local level, pulling from property taxes -- allocates the funds inefficiently and unfairly, particularly as income inequality widens. If we allocated that same funding at the national level, distributed more evenly, we'd get better results.

Also, the US is also one of the only countries to CUT spending on education in real terms in the last 5 years. The trajectory is wrong.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2015 08:38     Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/02/13/what-its-like-to-take-a-common-core-test

What It's Like to Take a Common Core Test
I took a third-grade Common Core test, and it was kind of difficult.


In Ohio, which will be the first state to administer the PARCC exams next week, middle school teacher Jocelyn Weeda said the tests are developmentally inappropriate and is urging parents to opt their children out of taking the test, a local Fox affiliate reported.


"When you look at the reading levels they're way above where students are developmentally at that age," Weeda said after taking a practice test.

Anonymous
Post 02/16/2015 08:36     Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests


http://news.yahoo.com/boycotters-might-winning-battle-over-standardized-testing-210516376.html

Boycotters Might Be Winning the Battle Over Standardized Testing

In Chicago, home to the nation’s third-largest school system, the city superintendent has decided not to administer a test tied to the federal Common Core curriculum. The move eases the pressure on tens of thousands of students—and validates parents and educators who boycotted the test last year—but risks billions of dollars in government funds.

Half a continent away, in California, state education officials are ready to follow Chicago’s lead and ask the federal government for an exemption from using scores on tests mandated by No Child Left Behind to measure progress in reading and math. Meanwhile, in Colorado, state education authorities recently voted 5–2 to walk away from Common Core and leave their share of Education Department money on the table—all because their kids are staggering under the testing burden.

In districts across the nation, from Florida to Alaska, the grassroots push for a rollback in high-stakes testing has gained momentum, and a broad coalition of parents, teachers, and advocates are poised to take advantage, even if it means an end to federal grants in tight fiscal times. But it also puts pressure on local and national education policy makers, including President Obama and Secretary of Education Arne Duncan, who see frequent testing as a key component in the education-overhaul tool kit.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2015 08:24     Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
Anonymous wrote:
Nah, your bizarre obsession with Pearson isn't an assumption, it's a given. The rest is just plain old fashioned mocking, though it's evidently gone over your head.


Actually, I am not poster who wrote about Pearson. I was only commenting on your response to that poster. I understand that you were being sarcastic, but that doesn't bolster your argument. In fact it takes away from it.


Maybe you're new to these threads - in this case, it's mocking that at this point is well deserved. Irrationality is repeating the same thing over and over again in spite of the facts and reality. After the 10th or 11th time of confronting the same irrational posters over and over again, it's evident that trying to debate with logic and facts are out the window, might as well cut to the chase and call the person out for their irrationality.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2015 00:41     Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
Nah, your bizarre obsession with Pearson isn't an assumption, it's a given. The rest is just plain old fashioned mocking, though it's evidently gone over your head.


Actually, I am not poster who wrote about Pearson. I was only commenting on your response to that poster. I understand that you were being sarcastic, but that doesn't bolster your argument. In fact it takes away from it.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2015 00:28     Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
Anonymous wrote:
Yes, yes, you've already told us about your obsession with Pearson. And they are, after all, also the same folks who are spraying us with mind-control chemtrails, they also faked the moon landings and were responsible for Bigfoot kidnapping Elvis.


You really make a lot of assumptions about people, don't you?


Nah, your bizarre obsession with Pearson isn't an assumption, it's a given. The rest is just plain old fashioned mocking, though it's evidently gone over your head.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2015 00:11     Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
Yes, yes, you've already told us about your obsession with Pearson. And they are, after all, also the same folks who are spraying us with mind-control chemtrails, they also faked the moon landings and were responsible for Bigfoot kidnapping Elvis.


You really make a lot of assumptions about people, don't you?
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2015 23:43     Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Plenty of people with far greater credentials and standing than you have or ever will have already reviewed the research. You're just barking into the wind with no case and no evidence of your own, you have hardly made any compelling argument here whatsoever.


Yes. Their credentials are that they work for Achieve or Pearson.




Pearson math = EVIL and nonsensical.


Yes, yes, you've already told us about your obsession with Pearson. And they are, after all, also the same folks who are spraying us with mind-control chemtrails, they also faked the moon landings and were responsible for Bigfoot kidnapping Elvis.