Anonymous
Post 02/13/2014 19:43     Subject: Re:Teachers are NOT the enemy!

We now have data on what percentage have straight As on their report cards and/or on the MCPS honor rolls?

A very high percentage I'd say.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2014 19:35     Subject: Teachers are NOT the enemy!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm disturbed by all the anti-gifted spew in this thread. One reason parents of gifted kids speak up so often about their kids not being advanced is because they are some of the few parents that are in a position to have hard, data-based "evidence" that the system will listen to about whether their child is performing above grade-level and can handle harder material.


To repeat a PP -- this thread is not about you. And if it's not about you, why make it about you?


+1. In your post you mention 99th percentile kids, but this thread is not about the 99th percentile kids who have their own magnets and other programs. This thread is about the kids in regular MCPS schools. Instead of hijacking this thread, why not start your own thread about 99th percentile kids. TIA!


You don't seem to understand this so we'll say it really simply: 99th percentile kids ARE in regular MCPS schools too. Got it?


What percentage of the kids in MCPS are 99th percentile?


Who knows? Who cares? Some are. That's enough for them to matter. Just like kids in any other percentile.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2014 19:34     Subject: Re:Teachers are NOT the enemy!


Anonymous wrote:The poster through MCPS has provided all the data needed to draw conclusions.

Based on the data MCPS provides I tend to agree with the assertion about grade inflation. Nevertheless, this is not surprising as this phenomenon exists at both the college and high school level in many school districts in the country.

It stands to reason (even with shut eyes) MCPS would be no different.




If only you had friends. Then you wouldn't be trolling and posting made-up facts on DCUM.


Posters with a vocabulary limited to "trolling" and "sock puppeting" are beached whales. Those in denial about the facts of rampant grade inflation in MCPS are living in another psychological dimension with no grounding in present day reality.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2014 19:26     Subject: Re:Teachers are NOT the enemy!

Anonymous wrote:Well I guess the poster was right about the final agonal phases and gasps of an argument trail with the above post out of left field.

The frequent hiding behind the term sock pupeting marks the vanquished throwing in the towel...like a "beached whale".


Throwing in the towel like a beached whale. That's funny.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2014 19:26     Subject: Re:Teachers are NOT the enemy!

Anonymous wrote:The poster through MCPS has provided all the data needed to draw conclusions.

Based on the data MCPS provides I tend to agree with the assertion about grade inflation. Nevertheless, this is not surprising as this phenomenon exists at both the college and high school level in many school districts in the country.

It stands to reason (even with shut eyes) MCPS would be no different.


If only you had friends. Then you wouldn't be trolling and posting made-up facts on DCUM.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2014 19:22     Subject: Re:Teachers are NOT the enemy!

Well I guess the poster was right about the final agonal phases and gasps of an argument trail with the above post out of left field.

The frequent hiding behind the term sock pupeting marks the vanquished throwing in the towel...like a "beached whale".
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2014 19:19     Subject: Re:Teachers are NOT the enemy!

Anonymous wrote:
The poster through MCPS has provided all the data needed to draw conclusions.

Based on the data MCPS provides I tend to agree with the assertion about grade inflation. Nevertheless, this is not surprising as this phenomenon exists at both the college and high school level in many school districts in the country.

It stands to reason (even with shut eyes) MCPS would be no different.




Stop sock-puppetting yourself. It's pathetic.



This refrain always seems to appear out of the mouth of the vanquished (for lack of argument). I guess we are witnessing the familiar terminal angst and gasps from Ms Wharton. We are now entering the 'beached-whale" phase of a typical DCUM discussion.


Sorry, sweetums. You lost, fair and square. You clearly know nothing about MCPS, not even the difference between Honor Roll and High Honor Roll. Go troll another thread.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2014 19:16     Subject: Teachers are NOT the enemy!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If I had a dime for every parent who treated me like cr#^, I'd have retired by now...
So tired of the micro-managing, the second-guessing, the nit-picking, etc. What is the point of it?

I know the dcurbanmomers are likely going to tear me to shred with their snarky remarks on this, but let me just say:

I am a teacher at a close-in public school. I work hard and produce good results. My students enjoy coming to school. I communicate regularly with parents (positive and negative when necessary). I give freely of my time before and after school.
I am in my mid-thirties with over 10 years of teaching experience behind me, but not too old to be burnt out (despite the title of my thread)...yet I have found (being new the area) that the parents here cause me great stress.
-I have no problem with parents who are strong advocates for their child.
-I have no problem with parents who question a strategy, method, etc.
-I don't even mind your questioning a grade.

What I have a problem with is:
-Skewed expectations of your child's abilities (want them in a higher group than they are capable)
-The expectation of special treatment without valid reason
-Constantly wanting to alter the way I do things and sending in things you find on teacherspayteachers that I should try!!!!!
-Constant criticism
-Down-talking me to colleague

What is it that makes parents so crazy? Do they really think they are helping their child with this behavior? I don't have kids of my own. Help me understand?????





My child is a student at a close in school. You sound like some of the teachers I encounter. You hurt and not help.

**I push for my child to be in advanced sections because the basic curriculum as presented is so easy that when provided a workbook from the store that is her same grade level, the workbook has harder problems. These are your generic workbooks one can find at the Barnes and Noble and are slated as "practice". I would rather my child be presented with advanced work and do ok than easy work and sail through. Life can't always be easy and teaching kids to work up to a better grade shouldn't be seen as wrong.

**I push for my child to be in advanced sections because as the classroom teacher you are abysmal at controlling classroom behavior
and the advanced sections have students that are more academic focused, are in a smaller group, provide more true instruction and behavior issues are minimized as the teacher has less behavior issues to deal with overall.

**TPT is actually a very good site for finding materials that present subject matter in different ways that can appeal to different students. It also highlights teachers work from around the country. why are you opposed to peer learning? I am professional and I take
advantage of opportunities to learn from peers in other orgs about different methods, programs that work, etc.


#1 - And you know my classroom management because you are in the classroom with me each day? Set up cameras? Because your precious snowflake told you?
#2 - Because you aren't a "peer". Do you also tell your OB/GYN how to do your pap? Just because you have a vagina, doesn't mean you are an expert when it comes to one. Just because you went to school, doesn't mean you know how to teach.

You're gross. When you kid doesn't cut the mustard and ends up in community college (because he/she never learned to do anything on his/her own) you can use the money from the 529 for his/her therapy.



Not PP, but you are awful and should not be a teacher. I have no doubt from your atupidity and bad attitude you are an awful one. Your comparison of yourself yo an obgyn is also hilarious. Trust me honey, that ed degree ain't med school. And if i saw my doctor doing something that appeared totally wrong and damaging, you bet i would ask questions. And your use of"precious snowflake" sarcasm is disgusting. I am supposed to trust my kid's care and educationy to someone with nothing but contempt for children? Out yourself and leave your job. You area disgrace.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2014 19:04     Subject: Re:Teachers are NOT the enemy!

The poster through MCPS has provided all the data needed to draw conclusions.

Based on the data MCPS provides I tend to agree with the assertion about grade inflation. Nevertheless, this is not surprising as this phenomenon exists at both the college and high school level in many school districts in the country.

It stands to reason (even with shut eyes) MCPS would be no different.




Stop sock-puppetting yourself. It's pathetic.



This refrain always seems to appear out of the mouth of the vanquished (for lack of argument). I guess we are witnessing the familiar terminal angst and gasps from Ms Wharton. We are now entering the 'beached-whale" phase of a typical DCUM discussion.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2014 18:57     Subject: Re:Teachers are NOT the enemy!

Anonymous wrote:The poster through MCPS has provided all the data needed to draw conclusions.

Based on the data MCPS provides I tend to agree with the assertion about grade inflation. Nevertheless, this is not surprising as this phenomenon exists at both the college and high school level in many school districts in the country.

It stands to reason (even with shut eyes) MCPS would be no different.


Stop sock-puppetting yourself. It's pathetic.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2014 18:47     Subject: Re:Teachers are NOT the enemy!

Oh, are you a $2 million consultant? How exciting.

Saying something over and over and over doesn't make it true.


...And you graduated from Wharton (SE D.C.)
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2014 18:45     Subject: Re:Teachers are NOT the enemy!

The poster through MCPS has provided all the data needed to draw conclusions.

Based on the data MCPS provides I tend to agree with the assertion about grade inflation. Nevertheless, this is not surprising as this phenomenon exists at both the college and high school level in many school districts in the country.

It stands to reason (even with shut eyes) MCPS would be no different.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2014 18:43     Subject: Re:Teachers are NOT the enemy!

Anonymous wrote:
If you want to prove that there is grade inflation in MCPS, then you will have to:

1. provide data on the proportion of grades in MCPS that are As
2. demonstrate that many of those As were undeserved

Or you can just keep talking about how you don't need data to prove that there is grade inflation in MCPS, because it's obvious.


No, I would fire Starr immediately if he hired a $2 million consultant to solve this "mystery" rather than assign a high school student in Statistics to look at the data for a homework assignment.
There is rampant grade inflation in MCPS. One doesn't need sophisticated statistics to prove this. A cursory review of the data with open eyes proves the point alone.


Oh, are you a $2 million consultant? How exciting.

Saying something over and over and over doesn't make it true.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2014 18:38     Subject: Re:Teachers are NOT the enemy!

If you want to prove that there is grade inflation in MCPS, then you will have to:

1. provide data on the proportion of grades in MCPS that are As
2. demonstrate that many of those As were undeserved

Or you can just keep talking about how you don't need data to prove that there is grade inflation in MCPS, because it's obvious.


No, I would fire Starr immediately if he hired a $2 million consultant to solve this "mystery" rather than assign a high school student in Statistics to look at the data for a homework assignment.
There is rampant grade inflation in MCPS. One doesn't need sophisticated statistics to prove this. A cursory review of the data with open eyes proves the point alone.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2014 18:34     Subject: Re:Teachers are NOT the enemy!

Anonymous wrote:
No, I want you to add up all of the data for MCPS.

Or, actually, I don't want you to do that -- but that's what you're going to need to do, if you want to support your assertion about the honor rolls MCPS-wide.


Try taking a sampling of the data. The data really speaks for itself. Grade inflation is rampant in MCPS. No amount of mental twisting and turning on your part changes the facts. Just open your eyes and ears and look at the data. Do you really need a PhD in statistics to prove no grade inflation in MCPS?


If you want to prove that there is grade inflation in MCPS, then you will have to:

1. provide data on the proportion of grades in MCPS that are As
2. demonstrate that many of those As were undeserved

Or you can just keep talking about how you don't need data to prove that there is grade inflation in MCPS, because it's obvious.