A photo showing Dzhokhar (C, bottom) and Tamerlan (C, top) Tsarnaev, and their sisters.
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A photo, showing Tamerlan (C, bottom) Tsarnaev, accompanied by his father Anzor (L), mother Zubeidat and uncle Muhamad Suleimanov (R).
REUTERS/Courtesy of Suleimanova family

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Anonymous wrote:While I've never been able to work up an ounce of sympathy for heinous rapists, I feel for this guy as well as Lanza. Of course, I think they should be held accountable for their crimes. Pains me that there is no outlet to channel their frustrations and fury other than murder.

Channel their frustrations??? Seriously? They killed and maimed innocent people. Maybe they should have taken an art class or tried some yoga.

I think what they did is horrible and they should be held accountable. I don't think they were, however, born to kill. Some thing(s) happened along the way. I really wish that all the murderous and violent men channeled their fury, frustration, rage, whatever one wants to call it, into something other than murder.

I don't excuse what they did. Just wish that something existed in our society that swooped up the VT murderer, McVeigh, Tamerlan before they killed others.

Maybe there should be a questionnaire sent out to school children that asks if they plan to commit mass murder in the future?

It could be multiple choice

Johnny recently was punished for urinating in his teacher's coffee pot. What is his best course of action?

a. Submit a hand written apology
b. Stay after school and bang erasers
c. Have his mother defend him
d. Add the teacher's name to his kill list, and start making plans for revenge

there could be a whole series of questions, and if the child fails they will be sent to a re-education camp.

I don't know. I am no expert but I have a few friends in the mental health field (psychiatrists and LCSW) and they have said that some people are simply hard-wired wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:While I've never been able to work up an ounce of sympathy for heinous rapists, I feel for this guy as well as Lanza. Of course, I think they should be held accountable for their crimes. Pains me that there is no outlet to channel their frustrations and fury other than murder.

Channel their frustrations??? Seriously? They killed and maimed innocent people. Maybe they should have taken an art class or tried some yoga.

I think what they did is horrible and they should be held accountable. I don't think they were, however, born to kill. Some thing(s) happened along the way. I really wish that all the murderous and violent men channeled their fury, frustration, rage, whatever one wants to call it, into something other than murder.

I don't excuse what they did. Just wish that something existed in our society that swooped up the VT murderer, McVeigh, Tamerlan before they killed others.

Maybe there should be a questionnaire sent out to school children that asks if they plan to commit mass murder in the future?

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Anonymous wrote:While I've never been able to work up an ounce of sympathy for heinous rapists, I feel for this guy as well as Lanza. Of course, I think they should be held accountable for their crimes. Pains me that there is no outlet to channel their frustrations and fury other than murder.

Channel their frustrations??? Seriously? They killed and maimed innocent people. Maybe they should have taken an art class or tried some yoga.

I think what they did is horrible and they should be held accountable. I don't think they were, however, born to kill. Some thing(s) happened along the way. I really wish that all the murderous and violent men channeled their fury, frustration, rage, whatever one wants to call it, into something other than murder.

I don't excuse what they did. Just wish that something existed in our society that swooped up the VT murderer, McVeigh, Tamerlan before they killed others.

Anonymous wrote:It's probably all traceable back to hormones. Young males in tribes since humanity began, looking for a target for their emerging aggressive and competitive natures. They want to fight someone, something, anything. Rebels with a cause, even if it's a stupid one.

And yet, millions of "young males" have been subjected to hormones and do not commit horrible atrocities against other human beings. Blaming this on hormones is giving despicable people an excuse where there should be none.

As for the original question, I have sympathy towards them as long as they are the "accused." Once they become the "convicted" I have no sympathy and hope the full measure of the law is enacted to punish them for such crimes.

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The best way to describe it would be, what if it was your brother who did this crime? You would have sympathy then...but when you don't know them you don't care


If my brother did this crime, I most definitely would not have sympathy. Evil is evil and wrong is wrong. He wouldn't get a pass because we share DNA. I would probably view him more harshly. He knows better.


You probably hate your brother already and don't need any excuse to hate him more. How could you not be more sympathetic to your brother? You would be privy to his weaknesses and motivations in ways others could never be (except his parents). People that don't forgive the frailties of their siblings and abandon their nephews and neices, sons and daughters, brothers and sisters are not in any way morally superior, just sanctimonious and unforgiving. Your rejection of them started waaay before they did something horrible and you are unwilling to accept the role your rejection of them all along played in turning them into a monster.

Someone is projecting a bit much, I think. I have not "rejected" my brother or abandoned my nieces and nephews. Neither have i turned my brother into a monster. He happens to be a pretty nice guy. However if he at some point he was to become a murderer or terrorist, it would not be of my doing and no, I would not fill sympathy for him--for those who love him, yes; for those whose life he destroyed, yes--but for him, no. Whew. You sound a it unhinged. I m sorry if your family relationships are damaged to the point you feel the need to lash out at a stranger who disagrees with you.

Anonymous wrote:OP It is people like you that let killers go free. There is evil in the world. He killed a number of people. He drove over his brother while his brother lay dying. Save your sympathy for those who deserve it. How about the parents of the boy? The crippled guy? The young and dead police officer? Every evil person has a "story" many of them sound good. That does not make a killer good. I do hope you are disqualified for jury duty.

That goes doubly for you. Someone like you who sees everything in black in white and in such a raw fashion belongs nowhere near a jury.
The world is more complex than that. People like you and with your simple minds and outlooks, frankly, disgust me. You and Lindsay Graham . . .

I don't feel "sympathy" for this guy. Sympathy is not the right word. However, I do see somethin very, very sad in all aspects of this story. Mostly for the victims, for certain. But, by all accounts this was a 19 yo kid (yes, technically an adult but there is nothing magic about turning 18; many, many, MANY people are still stupid and susceptibel to influences at that age) who people liked, was bright, and showed no signs of such behavior. What happened? FWIW, I felt EXACTLY the same about Lee Malvo and the snipers so it is not race (nice try, Mr. or Ms. Racecard). And, I think interviews with Mr. Malvo in the years since the sniper attacks have shown some interesting light on that situation (again, not excusing it).

The Boston bomber kid is going to be in prison the rest of his life. 50+ years. For a kid who seemed to have a bright future, yeah, I find that sad in some ways. THat's fine if you disagree, it doesn't make my opinion wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:I may be flamed for this - I cannot help but feel a sadness and sorrow for this 19 year old young man. I do not - in any way - condone what he and his brother did! I am from Boston and have a boy the same age as the young boy that was killed. It is just that I see in his eyes a troubled young man. I hear the stories of how he was just another "normal" teenager, I hear the interviews with his poor father, I hear the description of how they are guarding him in the hospital. WHAT HAPPENS TO A YOUNG MAN TO GO FROM NORMAL TEENAGER TO TERRORIST?
It scares me - I have two boys who are bright and impressionable and sweet and my babies. Maybe it is because my DH is of Eastern European descent and I see similarities in these boys facial features to my own boys and my nephews. I want to reach out to him and get in his head and heart and understand what has damaged him. He was a little boy - not so long ago - how does this happen????

To answer the question in your headline: Because you are most likely a bleeding heart liberal idiot.

I'm not OP. But violent freaks never are not leashed on society from the homes of bleeding heart liberals. You seem to casually call people names here. Do you call people "idiot" fairly often? You sound very abusive.

Oh, please. And you sound like a shrink, or someone who has spent a lot of time with one.

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Anonymous wrote:I may be flamed for this - I cannot help but feel a sadness and sorrow for this 19 year old young man. I do not - in any way - condone what he and his brother did! I am from Boston and have a boy the same age as the young boy that was killed. It is just that I see in his eyes a troubled young man. I hear the stories of how he was just another "normal" teenager, I hear the interviews with his poor father, I hear the description of how they are guarding him in the hospital. WHAT HAPPENS TO A YOUNG MAN TO GO FROM NORMAL TEENAGER TO TERRORIST?
It scares me - I have two boys who are bright and impressionable and sweet and my babies. Maybe it is because my DH is of Eastern European descent and I see similarities in these boys facial features to my own boys and my nephews. I want to reach out to him and get in his head and heart and understand what has damaged him. He was a little boy - not so long ago - how does this happen????

To answer the question in your headline: Because you are most likely a bleeding heart liberal idiot.

I'm not OP. But violent freaks never are not leashed on society from the homes of bleeding heart liberals. You seem to casually call people names here. Do you call people "idiot" fairly often? You sound very abusive.

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The best way to describe it would be, what if it was your brother who did this crime? You would have sympathy then...but when you don't know them you don't care

If my brother did this crime, I most definitely would not have sympathy. Evil is evil and wrong is wrong. He wouldn't get a pass because we share DNA. I would probably view him more harshly. He knows better.

You probably hate your brother already and don't need any excuse to hate him more. How could you not be more sympathetic to your brother? You would be privy to his weaknesses and motivations in ways others could never be (except his parents). People that don't forgive the frailties of their siblings and abandon their nephews and neices, sons and daughters, brothers and sisters are not in any way morally superior, just sanctimonious and unforgiving. Your rejection of them started waaay before they did something horrible and you are unwilling to accept the role your rejection of them all along played in turning them into a monster.

Anonymous wrote:I may be flamed for this - I cannot help but feel a sadness and sorrow for this 19 year old young man. I do not - in any way - condone what he and his brother did! I am from Boston and have a boy the same age as the young boy that was killed. It is just that I see in his eyes a troubled young man. I hear the stories of how he was just another "normal" teenager, I hear the interviews with his poor father, I hear the description of how they are guarding him in the hospital. WHAT HAPPENS TO A YOUNG MAN TO GO FROM NORMAL TEENAGER TO TERRORIST?
It scares me - I have two boys who are bright and impressionable and sweet and my babies. Maybe it is because my DH is of Eastern European descent and I see similarities in these boys facial features to my own boys and my nephews. I want to reach out to him and get in his head and heart and understand what has damaged him. He was a little boy - not so long ago - how does this happen????

To answer the question in your headline: Because you are most likely a bleeding heart liberal idiot.

The best way to describe it would be, what if it was your brother who did this crime? You would have sympathy then...but when you don't know them you don't care

If my brother did this crime, I most definitely would not have sympathy. Evil is evil and wrong is wrong. He wouldn't get a pass because we share DNA. I would probably view him more harshly. He knows better.

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Anonymous wrote:It is my opinion that more spiritually advanced people will have sympathy for everyone. Even murderers. People less evolved will not understand this. The best way to describe it would be, what if it was your brother who did this crime? You would have sympathy then...but when you don't know them you don't care. I have sympathy for everyone because to me no one is unvaluable or unworthy of love and compassion. No one!! I have felt this way since I was a young kid.

I think this captures the crux of the issue. Those who publicly preen about their sympathy for the killers are merely attempting to demonstrate their own "spiritually advanced" nature and their superiority to those "less evolved" souls who reserve their sympathies for those who, you know, got blown up. Engaging in this sort of status competition with such people is like wrestling with a pig in mud; you both get dirty, and the pig enjoys it. I believe there is a vanishingly small probability of meaningful discourse with anyone who non-ironically refers to themselves as "spiritually advanced" on these sorts of issues.

Publicly preen? A question was asked and I answered. I don't bring this up for discussion IRL.

Anonymous wrote: 22:05. No one is unworthy of love? Really? Hitler, Pol Pot, Vlad the Impalar, Atilla the Hun, Ayatollah Khomeni, Idi Amin, Ivan the Terrible, Stalin, Elizabeth Bathory, Mengele, Bin Laden, Himmler, Eichman, Kim ll Sung, Hirohito, Genghis Khan, Mao Zedong, etc.

If they just had a more loving mother

There will always be evil. Stay tuned for it, destroy it.