Anonymous wrote:This is going to be my last post on this subject.

I debated whether to even bother with this one or not.

A little while ago I asked my daughters if they think that their brother is too old to be going in the women's locker room with us anymore. They said that they don't think that it's a problem yet, but that they figure that this should be the last year that I take him in with us. They said that they know that he does not ever stare at their body parts, but that if he starts to do that, that it will be time to start sending him into the men's locker room instead. But in general, they think that some of you are making a big deal out of nothing.

As for the little girl from my son's class, she was 7 at the time, not 17, and she showed no signs of embarrassment that I could tell, and the same goes for her mother. If they didn't care, then I don't really care what a bunch of strangers on the internet think.

I will probably continue to take my son in with us for the next year, unless we receive any complaints. If we do receive complaints then I'll figure something else out.

One last thought to leave you with. How would any of you parents feel if you let strangers on the internet to talk you into sending your son into the men's locker room alone, and he wound up being molested or harmed in some other way? I know that the odds are everything would be OK if he went in alone, fortunately.

But There are no guarantees.

I would much rather some women feel slightly awkward for a few minutes than have something happen to my son.

Thank you to those of you who have made suggestions to me without trying to insult me!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is going to be my last post on this subject.

I debated whether to even bother with this one or not.

A little while ago I asked my daughters if they think that their brother is too old to be going in the women's locker room with us anymore. They said that they don't think that it's a problem yet, but that they figure that this should be the last year that I take him in with us. They said that they know that he does not ever stare at their body parts, but that if he starts to do that, that it will be time to start sending him into the men's locker room instead. But in general, they think that some of you are making a big deal out of nothing.

As for the little girl from my son's class, she was 7 at the time, not 17, and she showed no signs of embarrassment that I could tell, and the same goes for her mother. If they didn't care, then I don't really care what a bunch of strangers on the internet think.

I will probably continue to take my son in with us for the next year, unless we receive any complaints. If we do receive complaints then I'll figure something else out.

One last thought to leave you with. How would any of you parents feel if you let strangers on the internet to talk you into sending your son into the men's locker room alone, and he wound up being molested or harmed in some other way? I know that the odds are everything would be OK if he went in alone, fortunately.

But There are no guarantees.

I would much rather some women feel slightly awkward for a few minutes than have something happen to my son.

Thank you to those of you who have made suggestions to me without trying to insult me!

You are so overly paranoid about your son being molested but you don't care at all about other people's daughters feeling violated by a boy of their age watching them naked in the shower. Get your head out of your ass, lady.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did you ask your daughters how they would have felt if one of their classmates had seen them naked? It is an inappropriate violation of the privacy and modesty of other girls. I would not teach my daughter that it is ok to shower naked in front of an 8 year old classmate

I'm assuming that you mean if a male classmate had seen the girls naked? Girls showering naked in front of female classmates happens all of the time. It's called school gym class.

Yes of course that is what I meant.

Anonymous wrote:This is going to be my last post on this subject.

I debated whether to even bother with this one or not.

A little while ago I asked my daughters if they think that their brother is too old to be going in the women's locker room with us anymore. They said that they don't think that it's a problem yet, but that they figure that this should be the last year that I take him in with us. They said that they know that he does not ever stare at their body parts, but that if he starts to do that, that it will be time to start sending him into the men's locker room instead. But in general, they think that some of you are making a big deal out of nothing.

As for the little girl from my son's class, she was 7 at the time, not 17, and she showed no signs of embarrassment that I could tell, and the same goes for her mother. If they didn't care, then I don't really care what a bunch of strangers on the internet think.

I will probably continue to take my son in with us for the next year, unless we receive any complaints. If we do receive complaints then I'll figure something else out.

One last thought to leave you with. How would any of you parents feel if you let strangers on the internet to talk you into sending your son into the men's locker room alone, and he wound up being molested or harmed in some other way? I know that the odds are everything would be OK if he went in alone, fortunately.

But There are no guarantees.

I would much rather some women feel slightly awkward for a few minutes than have something happen to my son.

Thank you to those of you who have made suggestions to me without trying to insult me!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did you ask your daughters how they would have felt if one of their classmates had seen them naked? It is an inappropriate violation of the privacy and modesty of other girls. I would not teach my daughter that it is ok to shower naked in front of an 8 year old classmate

I'm assuming that you mean if a male classmate had seen the girls naked? Girls showering naked in front of female classmates happens all of the time. It's called school gym class.

Anonymous wrote:Did you ask your daughters how they would have felt if one of their classmates had seen them naked? It is an inappropriate violation of the privacy and modesty of other girls. I would not teach my daughter that it is ok to shower naked in front of an 8 year old classmate

Anonymous wrote:

At our pool, the rule is that if you have waxed or shaved your privates, it's OK to be fully nude in the locker room. But if you have full bush (or loose flappy visible lips) you are supposed to cover up with a towel.

Anonymous wrote:Our pool went through this. They used to say no boys 4 or over in the women's changing room. Four! I think that's a bit much. My friend's four year old (not motor delayed or special needs) reminds me of how little they still are at four. So I'm anti-that. Then they raised it to 5+, which still pissed some people off on both sides. So now the members are demanding a family room.

As for me, I simply do not change out in the open. My kid is still super young and isn't body aware yet at 2.5. When he's older, I'll change him in a screened off area. It's not a big deal, but we live in a society where open nudity can feel shocking to some. To be honest, when I walk into my pool and all I see is 70's bush, I am not exactly psyched myself. But that doesn't mean I'm going to tell someone else not to do it. However, that's not for me. I change in the stalls - either the changing stalls or the bathroom stalls. This works fine in our pool because there is never a line for the bathrooms, ever. I could see finding that annoying if the bathrooms were in higher demand and you were making someone else wait.

Anyway, family changing rooms seem to be a pretty good answer. But boy am I glad our pool at least does not have the stupid requirement to walk through locker rooms to get in. I've always disliked that even before I had kids, because to be honest, again, I'd rather spare myself the sight of naked bodies I dont' want to see naked. Not saying they shuldn't be able to do it, just voicing my own preference / comfort level.

Anonymous wrote:This is going to be my last post on this subject.

I debated whether to even bother with this one or not.

A little while ago I asked my daughters if they think that their brother is too old to be going in the women's locker room with us anymore. They said that they don't think that it's a problem yet, but that they figure that this should be the last year that I take him in with us. They said that they know that he does not ever stare at their body parts, but that if he starts to do that, that it will be time to start sending him into the men's locker room instead. But in general, they think that some of you are making a big deal out of nothing.

As for the little girl from my son's class, she was 7 at the time, not 17, and she showed no signs of embarrassment that I could tell, and the same goes for her mother. If they didn't care, then I don't really care what a bunch of strangers on the internet think.

I will probably continue to take my son in with us for the next year, unless we receive any complaints. If we do receive complaints then I'll figure something else out.

One last thought to leave you with. How would any of you parents feel if you let strangers on the internet to talk you into sending your son into the men's locker room alone, and he wound up being molested or harmed in some other way? I know that the odds are everything would be OK if he went in alone, fortunately.

But There are no guarantees.

I would much rather some women feel slightly awkward for a few minutes than have something happen to my son.

Thank you to those of you who have made suggestions to me without trying to insult me!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't believe people are saying that changing your clothes in the locker room is equivalent to public nudity. I don't like my girls to stay in their wet swimsuits because it fosters infections, for me too. So we do rinse off showers and change. I also workout at the community center in the mornings, take a shower and change. Where the heck am I supposed to change if it's not right there in the locker room? This makes no sense to me. I had no idea people were judgmentally thinking we were doing something wrong by changing our clothes in the locker room for heavens sake.

People look at things differently.

For you, it's natural to completely take your clothes off and strip your child down in a public setting because you feel that is what the room is for. Others are doing the same thing, so what's the big deal? To me, I can think of several ways to address changing if necessary, that don't involve exposing my bare breasts, vagina, or the parts of my children to strangers who have no business glancing even if it's unintentional.

You think it's fine, because that is what most people do. I think it's bizarre, and sends a mixed message. We look at things differently and really, I don't see anything changing that.