Anonymous
Post 05/24/2026 11:25     Subject: If it’s harder then ever to get into top colleges, why do professors complain students now are bad?

Anonymous wrote:Because it’s not harder than ever to get into college. It’s just more random than ever. It’s easier than ever to have the qualifications for a group of schools but more unlikely to get into a specific one

In what way? The only group that has it easy to qualify are rich people, but it’s not easier than ever for them, they used to just say “my father is [x] accept me.”
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2026 11:09     Subject: If it’s harder then ever to get into top colleges, why do professors complain students now are bad?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:prof here--because there is a mismatch between the skills, habits, and intellectual virtues that professors want in their students and the kinds of skills and accomplishments rewarded in many K-12s.


I begged my son’s schools to have teachers occasionally mark up the students’ writing for punctuation.

The answer was that the state standardized test based only 5% of the language arts on punctuation.


That’s why we put our kids in a strong Catholic HS. There was little writing focus in our public school system. Also- the sheer number of novels my sons had to read in HS. My attic has stacks up is stacks of novels from their 4 years there.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2026 01:51     Subject: If it’s harder then ever to get into top colleges, why do professors complain students now are bad?

Anonymous wrote:prof here--because there is a mismatch between the skills, habits, and intellectual virtues that professors want in their students and the kinds of skills and accomplishments rewarded in many K-12s.


I begged my son’s schools to have teachers occasionally mark up the students’ writing for punctuation.

The answer was that the state standardized test based only 5% of the language arts on punctuation.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2026 23:49     Subject: If it’s harder then ever to get into top colleges, why do professors complain students now are bad?

Because it’s not harder than ever to get into college. It’s just more random than ever. It’s easier than ever to have the qualifications for a group of schools but more unlikely to get into a specific one
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2026 12:34     Subject: Re:If it’s harder then ever to get into top colleges, why do professors complain students now are bad?

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Anonymous wrote:^ we have been told by AOs that the WL that end up getting accepted almost always end up being some of the top students. It makes sense because they are the unhooked, well-prepared, smart kids—-not special admits/donors, etc,


Fiction


Nope- even have it in writing.


Absolutely do not. No AO would ever put such a statement in writing if they made such…..which they did not.


Incorrect. H states this in their letter to waitlisted students, WL students, if admitted, end up being some of their best students.


So you are attributing real facts to puffery designed to make kids feel better about their situation and to keep their feelings towards the school as positive as possible……absolutely brilliant!