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Anonymous wrote:No one is faulting the families of the girls who died last summer. We are saying the ones who plan to send their kids back this summer are certifiable.

This comment referred families asking for sympathy - so the families from last summer:
“And then those families ask for sympathy over foolhardy risk taking decisions.”

No, the comment was referring to those choosing to return. Read the two preceding comments. No one is faulting families for the 2025 tragedy. They are faulting the lax Kerr Co safety precautions for an area known to flood and the minimal safety plans and means of communication by Camp Mystic's leaders.

Where are those families asking for sympathy from you?

The posters arguing in favor of the camp opening.

So - not the families of returning campers? People saying don't judge have you flipping out?

Who is flipping out? Most of us (other than you) are in agreement that the camp should never reopen and those wanting to return are nuts.

That's fine but getting hysterical about it calling people names and saying (erroneously) that someone is demanding your sympathy seems like an overreaction.

You exaggerate and misinterpret, then run with your feelings. No one said 'demanding sympathy," and no one is hysterical.

Again, nobody asked for your sympathy. More kids in your own zip code will die in backyard pools or from not wearing a bike helmet this summer than some random girls in a freak 100 yr flood. Yet not much concern for the very real threat closer to home.

Again, and we’ve told you this several times: This is an anonymous DC-based discussion forum. We discuss what we like here, particularly on the Off-Topic forum. You don’t get to decide what we discuss, just because you don’t like it. If we want to discuss our thoughts about the parents trying to send their kids back to Camp Mystic or the camp leaders, we will. And we will do it any manner we please.

And we are free to tell you that you’re a judgmental busybody who should leave these poor families alone FFS.

We aren't bothering them. It's an internet forum. No one is forcing you to read our posts. It was and is a a national story with ongoing updates that we will continue to discuss.

And we will continue to call out your grotesque comments trashing the families.

Anyone that would trust the Eastlands with the care of their child, knowing what they know now, is severely lacking in critical thinking skills.

You don’t know anything about them.

Stop acting like you know everything about everything; you don’t. MYOFB.

We've read their inadequate safety plans. We saw their inability to answer basic safety questions in court. We know they had internal family conflicts and lawsuits over money. We know that in recent documents they still don't want to list camp structures as being in a floodplain. We know they were asleep when warnings went out instead of staying up and monitoring their campers' safety. We know they had no sirens or other way to communicate with their counselors. You can't tell us what to think.

What is this we crap? Why are you reading their safety plans?

mental issues, it appears

DP here. The safety plans (or lack thereof) are in all do the national news segments and articles, they are part of the ongoing lawsuit, and part of the application for licensure this year. It’s not like people are just randomly looking them up. It’s in the national news. See the NBC link posted.

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Anonymous wrote:I grew up going to a camp down the road so I have some insight into the mindset. I have family members who attend Mystic. There are plenty of girls who want to go back, including those from Guadalupe 2nd term who were in the floods. It is very complicated but to put it simply - for the campers it is about being with their friends and having the camp experience. They could care less about who runs the place. I know that is the parents’ job and I know there are some who won’t allow it but others who will, especially those of the older girls. I am not going to judge.

I try to teach my kids empathy and compassion. If they wanted to go back, I would remind them that there are 27 girls who don’t get to go back whose families lives are shattered and destroyed for life. Do you really want to dance on the graves of their kids? My kids feelings and what they want do not get to come before 27 sets of parents who lost their children in the most evil ways.

So if your child wanted to go back to help themselves heal you would say no?

Hell no. My kid would have better critical thinking skills.

We would discuss the facts and that the operators never ran the camp with appropriate safety plans and that they still had no safety plans. I would not reward these people by giving them my money. As far as helping a child heal, seeing adults respond appropriately with concern for their welfare and safety is far more helpful to their healing but you keep playing up the drama.

The kids aren’t on DCUM.

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Anonymous wrote:I grew up going to a camp down the road so I have some insight into the mindset. I have family members who attend Mystic. There are plenty of girls who want to go back, including those from Guadalupe 2nd term who were in the floods. It is very complicated but to put it simply - for the campers it is about being with their friends and having the camp experience. They could care less about who runs the place. I know that is the parents’ job and I know there are some who won’t allow it but others who will, especially those of the older girls. I am not going to judge.

I try to teach my kids empathy and compassion. If they wanted to go back, I would remind them that there are 27 girls who don’t get to go back whose families lives are shattered and destroyed for life. Do you really want to dance on the graves of their kids? My kids feelings and what they want do not get to come before 27 sets of parents who lost their children in the most evil ways.

So if your child wanted to go back to help themselves heal you would say no?

Hell no. My kid would have better critical thinking skills.

We would discuss the facts and that the operators never ran the camp with appropriate safety plans and that they still had no safety plans. I would not reward these people by giving them my money. As far as helping a child heal, seeing adults respond appropriately with concern for their welfare and safety is far more helpful to their healing but you keep playing up the drama.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/24/us/camp-mystic-texas-flood-safety-license.html

Hearings next week in the TX State Legislature to discuss what happened last summer.

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Anonymous wrote:No one is faulting the families of the girls who died last summer. We are saying the ones who plan to send their kids back this summer are certifiable.

This comment referred families asking for sympathy - so the families from last summer:
“And then those families ask for sympathy over foolhardy risk taking decisions.”

No, the comment was referring to those choosing to return. Read the two preceding comments. No one is faulting families for the 2025 tragedy. They are faulting the lax Kerr Co safety precautions for an area known to flood and the minimal safety plans and means of communication by Camp Mystic's leaders.

Where are those families asking for sympathy from you?

The posters arguing in favor of the camp opening.

So - not the families of returning campers? People saying don't judge have you flipping out?

Who is flipping out? Most of us (other than you) are in agreement that the camp should never reopen and those wanting to return are nuts.

That's fine but getting hysterical about it calling people names and saying (erroneously) that someone is demanding your sympathy seems like an overreaction.

You exaggerate and misinterpret, then run with your feelings. No one said 'demanding sympathy," and no one is hysterical.

Again, nobody asked for your sympathy. More kids in your own zip code will die in backyard pools or from not wearing a bike helmet this summer than some random girls in a freak 100 yr flood. Yet not much concern for the very real threat closer to home.

Again, and we’ve told you this several times: This is an anonymous DC-based discussion forum. We discuss what we like here, particularly on the Off-Topic forum. You don’t get to decide what we discuss, just because you don’t like it. If we want to discuss our thoughts about the parents trying to send their kids back to Camp Mystic or the camp leaders, we will. And we will do it any manner we please.

And we are free to tell you that you’re a judgmental busybody who should leave these poor families alone FFS.

We aren't bothering them. It's an internet forum. No one is forcing you to read our posts. It was and is a a national story with ongoing updates that we will continue to discuss.

And we will continue to call out your grotesque comments trashing the families.

Anyone that would trust the Eastlands with the care of their child, knowing what they know now, is severely lacking in critical thinking skills.

You know they don’t know you from a hole in the wall or care about what you think, right?

You seem to care a lot about what other people think and are trying to control the opinions and comments of posters you don't know. FWIW, I have a lot of family member and friends in Texas and don't care what you think about our opinions of what occurred at Camp Mystic.

“Control the opinions” ha it seems like you can’t handle a conversation. People in Texas aren’t sweating this nearly as much as you.

You are the one who is trying to stop the conversation.

In what way? I think someone is not being honest about their overly emotional investment in this. Are they a lawyer? Family member? It comes across as dishonest and misleading.

I notice you are not commenting on, or refuting any of the news stories about the appalling deficiencies in the camp's current application for licensure. Nor have you commented on the fact that had the low lying cabins simply been permitted to evacuate, they would all be alive today.

Why does anyone need to? The appropriate department gets paid to do that and they are doing their job. Freaking out on here makes no difference.

We are just discussing. You are trying to curb the discussion, for reasons you have not disclosed.

Curb the discussion? It’s one person serially posting.

No, there are multiple. You can check with the site admins. I'm not the only person responding to you.

There’s more than one person who thinks you’re nuts.

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Anonymous wrote:No one is faulting the families of the girls who died last summer. We are saying the ones who plan to send their kids back this summer are certifiable.

This comment referred families asking for sympathy - so the families from last summer:
“And then those families ask for sympathy over foolhardy risk taking decisions.”

No, the comment was referring to those choosing to return. Read the two preceding comments. No one is faulting families for the 2025 tragedy. They are faulting the lax Kerr Co safety precautions for an area known to flood and the minimal safety plans and means of communication by Camp Mystic's leaders.

Where are those families asking for sympathy from you?

The posters arguing in favor of the camp opening.

So - not the families of returning campers? People saying don't judge have you flipping out?

Who is flipping out? Most of us (other than you) are in agreement that the camp should never reopen and those wanting to return are nuts.

That's fine but getting hysterical about it calling people names and saying (erroneously) that someone is demanding your sympathy seems like an overreaction.

You exaggerate and misinterpret, then run with your feelings. No one said 'demanding sympathy," and no one is hysterical.

Again, nobody asked for your sympathy. More kids in your own zip code will die in backyard pools or from not wearing a bike helmet this summer than some random girls in a freak 100 yr flood. Yet not much concern for the very real threat closer to home.

Again, and we’ve told you this several times: This is an anonymous DC-based discussion forum. We discuss what we like here, particularly on the Off-Topic forum. You don’t get to decide what we discuss, just because you don’t like it. If we want to discuss our thoughts about the parents trying to send their kids back to Camp Mystic or the camp leaders, we will. And we will do it any manner we please.

And we are free to tell you that you’re a judgmental busybody who should leave these poor families alone FFS.

We aren't bothering them. It's an internet forum. No one is forcing you to read our posts. It was and is a a national story with ongoing updates that we will continue to discuss.

And we will continue to call out your grotesque comments trashing the families.

Anyone that would trust the Eastlands with the care of their child, knowing what they know now, is severely lacking in critical thinking skills.

You know they don’t know you from a hole in the wall or care about what you think, right?

You seem to care a lot about what other people think and are trying to control the opinions and comments of posters you don't know. FWIW, I have a lot of family member and friends in Texas and don't care what you think about our opinions of what occurred at Camp Mystic.

“Control the opinions” ha it seems like you can’t handle a conversation. People in Texas aren’t sweating this nearly as much as you.

You are the one who is trying to stop the conversation.

In what way? I think someone is not being honest about their overly emotional investment in this. Are they a lawyer? Family member? It comes across as dishonest and misleading.

I notice you are not commenting on, or refuting any of the news stories about the appalling deficiencies in the camp's current application for licensure. Nor have you commented on the fact that had the low lying cabins simply been permitted to evacuate, they would all be alive today.

Why does anyone need to? The appropriate department gets paid to do that and they are doing their job. Freaking out on here makes no difference.

We are just discussing. You are trying to curb the discussion, for reasons you have not disclosed.

Curb the discussion? It’s one person serially posting.

No, there are multiple. You can check with the site admins. I'm not the only person responding to you.

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Anonymous wrote:No one is faulting the families of the girls who died last summer. We are saying the ones who plan to send their kids back this summer are certifiable.

This comment referred families asking for sympathy - so the families from last summer:
“And then those families ask for sympathy over foolhardy risk taking decisions.”

No, the comment was referring to those choosing to return. Read the two preceding comments. No one is faulting families for the 2025 tragedy. They are faulting the lax Kerr Co safety precautions for an area known to flood and the minimal safety plans and means of communication by Camp Mystic's leaders.

Where are those families asking for sympathy from you?

The posters arguing in favor of the camp opening.

So - not the families of returning campers? People saying don't judge have you flipping out?

Who is flipping out? Most of us (other than you) are in agreement that the camp should never reopen and those wanting to return are nuts.

That's fine but getting hysterical about it calling people names and saying (erroneously) that someone is demanding your sympathy seems like an overreaction.

You exaggerate and misinterpret, then run with your feelings. No one said 'demanding sympathy," and no one is hysterical.

Again, nobody asked for your sympathy. More kids in your own zip code will die in backyard pools or from not wearing a bike helmet this summer than some random girls in a freak 100 yr flood. Yet not much concern for the very real threat closer to home.

Again, and we’ve told you this several times: This is an anonymous DC-based discussion forum. We discuss what we like here, particularly on the Off-Topic forum. You don’t get to decide what we discuss, just because you don’t like it. If we want to discuss our thoughts about the parents trying to send their kids back to Camp Mystic or the camp leaders, we will. And we will do it any manner we please.

And we are free to tell you that you’re a judgmental busybody who should leave these poor families alone FFS.

We aren't bothering them. It's an internet forum. No one is forcing you to read our posts. It was and is a a national story with ongoing updates that we will continue to discuss.

And we will continue to call out your grotesque comments trashing the families.

Anyone that would trust the Eastlands with the care of their child, knowing what they know now, is severely lacking in critical thinking skills.

You know they don’t know you from a hole in the wall or care about what you think, right?

You seem to care a lot about what other people think and are trying to control the opinions and comments of posters you don't know. FWIW, I have a lot of family member and friends in Texas and don't care what you think about our opinions of what occurred at Camp Mystic.

“Control the opinions” ha it seems like you can’t handle a conversation. People in Texas aren’t sweating this nearly as much as you.

You are the one who is trying to stop the conversation.

In what way? I think someone is not being honest about their overly emotional investment in this. Are they a lawyer? Family member? It comes across as dishonest and misleading.

I notice you are not commenting on, or refuting any of the news stories about the appalling deficiencies in the camp's current application for licensure. Nor have you commented on the fact that had the low lying cabins simply been permitted to evacuate, they would all be alive today.

Why does anyone need to? The appropriate department gets paid to do that and they are doing their job. Freaking out on here makes no difference.

We are just discussing. You are trying to curb the discussion, for reasons you have not disclosed.

Curb the discussion? It’s one person serially posting.

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Anonymous wrote:No one is faulting the families of the girls who died last summer. We are saying the ones who plan to send their kids back this summer are certifiable.

This comment referred families asking for sympathy - so the families from last summer:
“And then those families ask for sympathy over foolhardy risk taking decisions.”

No, the comment was referring to those choosing to return. Read the two preceding comments. No one is faulting families for the 2025 tragedy. They are faulting the lax Kerr Co safety precautions for an area known to flood and the minimal safety plans and means of communication by Camp Mystic's leaders.

Where are those families asking for sympathy from you?

The posters arguing in favor of the camp opening.

So - not the families of returning campers? People saying don't judge have you flipping out?

Who is flipping out? Most of us (other than you) are in agreement that the camp should never reopen and those wanting to return are nuts.

That's fine but getting hysterical about it calling people names and saying (erroneously) that someone is demanding your sympathy seems like an overreaction.

You exaggerate and misinterpret, then run with your feelings. No one said 'demanding sympathy," and no one is hysterical.

Again, nobody asked for your sympathy. More kids in your own zip code will die in backyard pools or from not wearing a bike helmet this summer than some random girls in a freak 100 yr flood. Yet not much concern for the very real threat closer to home.

Again, and we’ve told you this several times: This is an anonymous DC-based discussion forum. We discuss what we like here, particularly on the Off-Topic forum. You don’t get to decide what we discuss, just because you don’t like it. If we want to discuss our thoughts about the parents trying to send their kids back to Camp Mystic or the camp leaders, we will. And we will do it any manner we please.

And we are free to tell you that you’re a judgmental busybody who should leave these poor families alone FFS.

We aren't bothering them. It's an internet forum. No one is forcing you to read our posts. It was and is a a national story with ongoing updates that we will continue to discuss.

And we will continue to call out your grotesque comments trashing the families.

Anyone that would trust the Eastlands with the care of their child, knowing what they know now, is severely lacking in critical thinking skills.

You know they don’t know you from a hole in the wall or care about what you think, right?

You seem to care a lot about what other people think and are trying to control the opinions and comments of posters you don't know. FWIW, I have a lot of family member and friends in Texas and don't care what you think about our opinions of what occurred at Camp Mystic.

“Control the opinions” ha it seems like you can’t handle a conversation. People in Texas aren’t sweating this nearly as much as you.

You are the one who is trying to stop the conversation.

In what way? I think someone is not being honest about their overly emotional investment in this. Are they a lawyer? Family member? It comes across as dishonest and misleading.

I notice you are not commenting on, or refuting any of the news stories about the appalling deficiencies in the camp's current application for licensure. Nor have you commented on the fact that had the low lying cabins simply been permitted to evacuate, they would all be alive today.

Why does anyone need to? The appropriate department gets paid to do that and they are doing their job. Freaking out on here makes no difference.

We are just discussing. You are trying to curb the discussion, for reasons you have not disclosed.

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Anonymous wrote:No one is faulting the families of the girls who died last summer. We are saying the ones who plan to send their kids back this summer are certifiable.

This comment referred families asking for sympathy - so the families from last summer:
“And then those families ask for sympathy over foolhardy risk taking decisions.”

No, the comment was referring to those choosing to return. Read the two preceding comments. No one is faulting families for the 2025 tragedy. They are faulting the lax Kerr Co safety precautions for an area known to flood and the minimal safety plans and means of communication by Camp Mystic's leaders.

Where are those families asking for sympathy from you?

The posters arguing in favor of the camp opening.

So - not the families of returning campers? People saying don't judge have you flipping out?

Who is flipping out? Most of us (other than you) are in agreement that the camp should never reopen and those wanting to return are nuts.

That's fine but getting hysterical about it calling people names and saying (erroneously) that someone is demanding your sympathy seems like an overreaction.

You exaggerate and misinterpret, then run with your feelings. No one said 'demanding sympathy," and no one is hysterical.

Again, nobody asked for your sympathy. More kids in your own zip code will die in backyard pools or from not wearing a bike helmet this summer than some random girls in a freak 100 yr flood. Yet not much concern for the very real threat closer to home.

Again, and we’ve told you this several times: This is an anonymous DC-based discussion forum. We discuss what we like here, particularly on the Off-Topic forum. You don’t get to decide what we discuss, just because you don’t like it. If we want to discuss our thoughts about the parents trying to send their kids back to Camp Mystic or the camp leaders, we will. And we will do it any manner we please.

And we are free to tell you that you’re a judgmental busybody who should leave these poor families alone FFS.

We aren't bothering them. It's an internet forum. No one is forcing you to read our posts. It was and is a a national story with ongoing updates that we will continue to discuss.

And we will continue to call out your grotesque comments trashing the families.

Anyone that would trust the Eastlands with the care of their child, knowing what they know now, is severely lacking in critical thinking skills.

You know they don’t know you from a hole in the wall or care about what you think, right?

You seem to care a lot about what other people think and are trying to control the opinions and comments of posters you don't know. FWIW, I have a lot of family member and friends in Texas and don't care what you think about our opinions of what occurred at Camp Mystic.

“Control the opinions” ha it seems like you can’t handle a conversation. People in Texas aren’t sweating this nearly as much as you.

You are finally getting it! Those families “not sweating” the glaring deficiencies of this camp are exactly what we are here discussing. I’m glad we could clear that up.

You can discuss and some of us can recognize it has nothing to do with anything. It effects those families and nobody else.

If it has nothing to do with anything, what are you doing here? I'd make other summer arrangements if I were you - I don't think your current plan is going to be available.

Oh, no need to worry about my kids on top of these 800 you are obseseed with. We go to a camp in a completely unrelated state. What happens or doesn’t happen at Mystic has absolutely no bearing on anyone else. Is your niece going to this camp?

Lady, if you think anyone on this thread would allow someone they love to attend this camp, you are dumber than I thought.

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Anonymous wrote:No one is faulting the families of the girls who died last summer. We are saying the ones who plan to send their kids back this summer are certifiable.

This comment referred families asking for sympathy - so the families from last summer:
“And then those families ask for sympathy over foolhardy risk taking decisions.”

No, the comment was referring to those choosing to return. Read the two preceding comments. No one is faulting families for the 2025 tragedy. They are faulting the lax Kerr Co safety precautions for an area known to flood and the minimal safety plans and means of communication by Camp Mystic's leaders.

Where are those families asking for sympathy from you?

The posters arguing in favor of the camp opening.

So - not the families of returning campers? People saying don't judge have you flipping out?

Who is flipping out? Most of us (other than you) are in agreement that the camp should never reopen and those wanting to return are nuts.

That's fine but getting hysterical about it calling people names and saying (erroneously) that someone is demanding your sympathy seems like an overreaction.

You exaggerate and misinterpret, then run with your feelings. No one said 'demanding sympathy," and no one is hysterical.

Again, nobody asked for your sympathy. More kids in your own zip code will die in backyard pools or from not wearing a bike helmet this summer than some random girls in a freak 100 yr flood. Yet not much concern for the very real threat closer to home.

Again, and we’ve told you this several times: This is an anonymous DC-based discussion forum. We discuss what we like here, particularly on the Off-Topic forum. You don’t get to decide what we discuss, just because you don’t like it. If we want to discuss our thoughts about the parents trying to send their kids back to Camp Mystic or the camp leaders, we will. And we will do it any manner we please.

And we are free to tell you that you’re a judgmental busybody who should leave these poor families alone FFS.

We aren't bothering them. It's an internet forum. No one is forcing you to read our posts. It was and is a a national story with ongoing updates that we will continue to discuss.

And we will continue to call out your grotesque comments trashing the families.

Anyone that would trust the Eastlands with the care of their child, knowing what they know now, is severely lacking in critical thinking skills.

You know they don’t know you from a hole in the wall or care about what you think, right?

You seem to care a lot about what other people think and are trying to control the opinions and comments of posters you don't know. FWIW, I have a lot of family member and friends in Texas and don't care what you think about our opinions of what occurred at Camp Mystic.

“Control the opinions” ha it seems like you can’t handle a conversation. People in Texas aren’t sweating this nearly as much as you.

You are the one who is trying to stop the conversation.

In what way? I think someone is not being honest about their overly emotional investment in this. Are they a lawyer? Family member? It comes across as dishonest and misleading.

I notice you are not commenting on, or refuting any of the news stories about the appalling deficiencies in the camp's current application for licensure. Nor have you commented on the fact that had the low lying cabins simply been permitted to evacuate, they would all be alive today.

Why does anyone need to? The appropriate department gets paid to do that and they are doing their job. Freaking out on here makes no difference.

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Anonymous wrote:No one is faulting the families of the girls who died last summer. We are saying the ones who plan to send their kids back this summer are certifiable.

This comment referred families asking for sympathy - so the families from last summer:
“And then those families ask for sympathy over foolhardy risk taking decisions.”

No, the comment was referring to those choosing to return. Read the two preceding comments. No one is faulting families for the 2025 tragedy. They are faulting the lax Kerr Co safety precautions for an area known to flood and the minimal safety plans and means of communication by Camp Mystic's leaders.

Where are those families asking for sympathy from you?

The posters arguing in favor of the camp opening.

So - not the families of returning campers? People saying don't judge have you flipping out?

Who is flipping out? Most of us (other than you) are in agreement that the camp should never reopen and those wanting to return are nuts.

That's fine but getting hysterical about it calling people names and saying (erroneously) that someone is demanding your sympathy seems like an overreaction.

You exaggerate and misinterpret, then run with your feelings. No one said 'demanding sympathy," and no one is hysterical.

Again, nobody asked for your sympathy. More kids in your own zip code will die in backyard pools or from not wearing a bike helmet this summer than some random girls in a freak 100 yr flood. Yet not much concern for the very real threat closer to home.

Again, and we’ve told you this several times: This is an anonymous DC-based discussion forum. We discuss what we like here, particularly on the Off-Topic forum. You don’t get to decide what we discuss, just because you don’t like it. If we want to discuss our thoughts about the parents trying to send their kids back to Camp Mystic or the camp leaders, we will. And we will do it any manner we please.

And we are free to tell you that you’re a judgmental busybody who should leave these poor families alone FFS.

We aren't bothering them. It's an internet forum. No one is forcing you to read our posts. It was and is a a national story with ongoing updates that we will continue to discuss.

And we will continue to call out your grotesque comments trashing the families.

Anyone that would trust the Eastlands with the care of their child, knowing what they know now, is severely lacking in critical thinking skills.

You know they don’t know you from a hole in the wall or care about what you think, right?

You seem to care a lot about what other people think and are trying to control the opinions and comments of posters you don't know. FWIW, I have a lot of family member and friends in Texas and don't care what you think about our opinions of what occurred at Camp Mystic.

“Control the opinions” ha it seems like you can’t handle a conversation. People in Texas aren’t sweating this nearly as much as you.

You are the one who is trying to stop the conversation.

In what way? I think someone is not being honest about their overly emotional investment in this. Are they a lawyer? Family member? It comes across as dishonest and misleading.

I notice you are not commenting on, or refuting any of the news stories about the appalling deficiencies in the camp's current application for licensure. Nor have you commented on the fact that had the low lying cabins simply been permitted to evacuate, they would all be alive today.

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Anonymous wrote:No one is faulting the families of the girls who died last summer. We are saying the ones who plan to send their kids back this summer are certifiable.

This comment referred families asking for sympathy - so the families from last summer:
“And then those families ask for sympathy over foolhardy risk taking decisions.”

No, the comment was referring to those choosing to return. Read the two preceding comments. No one is faulting families for the 2025 tragedy. They are faulting the lax Kerr Co safety precautions for an area known to flood and the minimal safety plans and means of communication by Camp Mystic's leaders.

Where are those families asking for sympathy from you?

The posters arguing in favor of the camp opening.

So - not the families of returning campers? People saying don't judge have you flipping out?

Who is flipping out? Most of us (other than you) are in agreement that the camp should never reopen and those wanting to return are nuts.

That's fine but getting hysterical about it calling people names and saying (erroneously) that someone is demanding your sympathy seems like an overreaction.

You exaggerate and misinterpret, then run with your feelings. No one said 'demanding sympathy," and no one is hysterical.

Again, nobody asked for your sympathy. More kids in your own zip code will die in backyard pools or from not wearing a bike helmet this summer than some random girls in a freak 100 yr flood. Yet not much concern for the very real threat closer to home.

Again, and we’ve told you this several times: This is an anonymous DC-based discussion forum. We discuss what we like here, particularly on the Off-Topic forum. You don’t get to decide what we discuss, just because you don’t like it. If we want to discuss our thoughts about the parents trying to send their kids back to Camp Mystic or the camp leaders, we will. And we will do it any manner we please.

And we are free to tell you that you’re a judgmental busybody who should leave these poor families alone FFS.

We aren't bothering them. It's an internet forum. No one is forcing you to read our posts. It was and is a a national story with ongoing updates that we will continue to discuss.

And we will continue to call out your grotesque comments trashing the families.

Anyone that would trust the Eastlands with the care of their child, knowing what they know now, is severely lacking in critical thinking skills.

You know they don’t know you from a hole in the wall or care about what you think, right?

You seem to care a lot about what other people think and are trying to control the opinions and comments of posters you don't know. FWIW, I have a lot of family member and friends in Texas and don't care what you think about our opinions of what occurred at Camp Mystic.

“Control the opinions” ha it seems like you can’t handle a conversation. People in Texas aren’t sweating this nearly as much as you.

You are finally getting it! Those families “not sweating” the glaring deficiencies of this camp are exactly what we are here discussing. I’m glad we could clear that up.

You can discuss and some of us can recognize it has nothing to do with anything. It effects those families and nobody else.

If it has nothing to do with anything, what are you doing here? I'd make other summer arrangements if I were you - I don't think your current plan is going to be available.

Oh, no need to worry about my kids on top of these 800 you are obseseed with. We go to a camp in a completely unrelated state. What happens or doesn’t happen at Mystic has absolutely no bearing on anyone else. Is your niece going to this camp?

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Anonymous wrote:No one is faulting the families of the girls who died last summer. We are saying the ones who plan to send their kids back this summer are certifiable.

This comment referred families asking for sympathy - so the families from last summer:
“And then those families ask for sympathy over foolhardy risk taking decisions.”

No, the comment was referring to those choosing to return. Read the two preceding comments. No one is faulting families for the 2025 tragedy. They are faulting the lax Kerr Co safety precautions for an area known to flood and the minimal safety plans and means of communication by Camp Mystic's leaders.

Where are those families asking for sympathy from you?

The posters arguing in favor of the camp opening.

So - not the families of returning campers? People saying don't judge have you flipping out?

Who is flipping out? Most of us (other than you) are in agreement that the camp should never reopen and those wanting to return are nuts.

That's fine but getting hysterical about it calling people names and saying (erroneously) that someone is demanding your sympathy seems like an overreaction.

You exaggerate and misinterpret, then run with your feelings. No one said 'demanding sympathy," and no one is hysterical.

Again, nobody asked for your sympathy. More kids in your own zip code will die in backyard pools or from not wearing a bike helmet this summer than some random girls in a freak 100 yr flood. Yet not much concern for the very real threat closer to home.

Again, and we’ve told you this several times: This is an anonymous DC-based discussion forum. We discuss what we like here, particularly on the Off-Topic forum. You don’t get to decide what we discuss, just because you don’t like it. If we want to discuss our thoughts about the parents trying to send their kids back to Camp Mystic or the camp leaders, we will. And we will do it any manner we please.

And we are free to tell you that you’re a judgmental busybody who should leave these poor families alone FFS.

We aren't bothering them. It's an internet forum. No one is forcing you to read our posts. It was and is a a national story with ongoing updates that we will continue to discuss.

And we will continue to call out your grotesque comments trashing the families.

Anyone that would trust the Eastlands with the care of their child, knowing what they know now, is severely lacking in critical thinking skills.

You know they don’t know you from a hole in the wall or care about what you think, right?

You seem to care a lot about what other people think and are trying to control the opinions and comments of posters you don't know. FWIW, I have a lot of family member and friends in Texas and don't care what you think about our opinions of what occurred at Camp Mystic.

“Control the opinions” ha it seems like you can’t handle a conversation. People in Texas aren’t sweating this nearly as much as you.

You are the one who is trying to stop the conversation.

In what way? I think someone is not being honest about their overly emotional investment in this. Are they a lawyer? Family member? It comes across as dishonest and misleading.

The actually testimony of staff is appalling:

Testimony from April 2026 regarding the July 2025 Camp Mystic flood, which resulted in 27 deaths, revealed significant failures in emergency communication, training, and leadership action.
Key Staff Testimony and Admissions (April 2026)

Edward Eastland (Director): Testified he did not see official flood warnings issued the day before the storm and admitted, "I wish we never had camp that summer". He acknowledged that lives could have been saved if staff had acted sooner, but insisted the severity of the storm was not anticipated.

Mary Liz Eastland (Chief Health Officer): Admitted in court that she did not call 911 or deploy nurses, missed official flood alerts, and stated "yes" when asked if she abandoned children in her care.

Glenn Juenke (Night Security Guard): Testified that he ordered some girls to safety on his own initiative but conceded no general evacuation order was given to the camp, admitting, "We did everything we could do in the time that we had".

Catie Eastland (Co-Director): Described the event as an "inland tsunami" and testified that she was aware of the high flood risk, noting that her husband (who died in the flood) had previously designated the "underside of the dining hall" as the highest known flood line.
San Antonio Express-News

Key Findings from Testimony and Investigations
Lack of Training and Plans: Investigators reported that counselors had no emergency training or drills, and the camp lacked a written, certified evacuation plan, contrary to state regulations.
Delayed Response: Staff reportedly prioritized moving canoes over evacuating campers, and many counselors were young and left on their own, according to testimony.
No Alerts: Staff did not use loudspeakers or radios to notify all cabins to evacuate before water rose, despite warnings from national weather services.
Inspection Failures: It was revealed that a state inspection conducted two days before the flood did not test the effectiveness of safety procedures.
San Antonio Express-News
San Antonio Express-News

Had the lowest lying cabins simply been permitted to evacuate (like the counselors were begging to do) they could have gotten to safety/higher ground at the rec hall in 45 seconds on foot.

The Eastlands waited 2 hours to begin evacuations from the emergency warning, after they had moved horses and canoes. Even then, they only allowed some cabins to evacuate.

Evacuation timeline explained at the 2:30 mark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnScj_EwoxU