Anonymous wrote:Georgetown has so much more famous grads including business, medicine, law etc. Same for ND and Holy Cross. GU has always been around top 25 while ND range 18-25 and HC is only Catholic LAC forever top 25. BC and Nova are nowhere need top 30 but good schools more like Wake and Tulane.

Um BC is literally in the 30s at 36. It has been around there for many years.

Anonymous wrote:Follow the money, Holy Cross, Georgetown and BC have the largest endowment per student in that order. With kids flocking in large numbers to SEC and Big10 schools lesser known Jesuit/Catholic schools will have to offer lots of merit aid to attract potential students.

There are many Catholic families who would have considered these smaller Jesuit collleges if they were still Catholic, but since so many jesuit colleges have wholehearedly rejected the Catholic faith and heritage to become just one more small secular liberal arts college in a sea of small secular liberal arts college, there is no reason to consider them.

Anonymous wrote:Georgetown has so much more famous grads including business, medicine, law etc. Same for ND and Holy Cross. GU has always been around top 25 while ND range 18-25 and HC is only Catholic LAC forever top 25. BC and Nova are nowhere need top 30 but good schools more like Wake and Tulane.

If you have any plans on government, politics, international policy, international relations: Georgetown is the best in the country. Period.

Why are those so many off-topic comments about non-Jesuit universities?

Georgetown has so much more famous grads including business, medicine, law etc. Same for ND and Holy Cross. GU has always been around top 25 while ND range 18-25 and HC is only Catholic LAC forever top 25. BC and Nova are nowhere need top 30 but good schools more like Wake and Tulane.

Anonymous wrote:Georgetown has a fantastic lacrosse program and while its basketball program has struggled they have multiple NCAA champs. BC has no men’s lacrosse and no basketball tradition. Holy Cross is indeed small at 3,000 kids but in 2nd largest city in New England over 200,000 people reside in Worcester which is 1 hour to Boston. Hardly rural. Both Georgetown and Holy Cross have the long time prestige. Very few kids would pick BC over GU and its international reputation. Not close.

For the kid who wants ND and rejected, BC is usually the second choice. GU doesn't hold a candle to BC in terms of school spirit or campus experience. BC has many more traditions that students love. My kid went to the accepted student event this year and when a student panel members were asked about favorite traditions, the best they came up with was a birthday celebration in a bar. And nobody can argue that BC has a much more beautiful and pristine campus than Georgetown. My kid chose BC over GU and there are many others that do.

That all said, depending on major, GU would definitely be the first choice for students interested in government related majors. That's really a no brainer.

Georgetown has a fantastic lacrosse program and while its basketball program has struggled they have multiple NCAA champs. BC has no men’s lacrosse and no basketball tradition. Holy Cross is indeed small at 3,000 kids but in 2nd largest city in New England over 200,000 people reside in Worcester which is 1 hour to Boston. Hardly rural. Both Georgetown and Holy Cross have the long time prestige. Very few kids would pick BC over GU and its international reputation. Not close.

Our kid will be starting at Saint Louis University. Great, beautiful campus. Strong academics at an R1 institution and good diversity with nice people. And they have a full campus in Madrid where you can do all of their majors.

We and our DC loved LMU - hard to beat the location, campus, size of school. DC ended up on the east coast, but LMU was a strong contender.

Anonymous wrote:What Jesuit colleges and universities do you or your kid recommend looking into to apply?

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B Boston College
C Catholic University America, Creighton University
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F Fordham
G Georgetown, Gonzaga
H Holy Cross (College of the Holy Cross)
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L Loyola MD
Loyola New Orleans
Loyola Marymount (LMU)
Loyola Chicago

M Marquette University (Milwaukee WI)
N Notre Dame
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P University of Portland -UP (Portland OR)
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S Saint John's University (NY)
Saint Joseph's University
Saint Louis University
University of San Francisco
St. John's College (MD, NM)
Santa Clara University
University of Scranton
Seattle University

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X Xavier
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Z

Anonymous wrote:ND will never be caught by the Jesuits. Georgetown and Holy Cross are poor cousins but decent alternatives.

For the kid who loves the ND experience but not the location, BC is the best alternative with great school spirit and strong Catholic identity. HC is too small/quiet/remote and Georgetown isn't really Catholic and lacks school spirit. For my kid, he went all in ND and didn't mind South Bend.

ND will never be caught by the Jesuits. Georgetown and Holy Cross are poor cousins but decent alternatives.

University of Detroit Mercy is Jesuit.
Decent school with decent athletics.

https://www.udmercy.edu/

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Anonymous wrote:None of the Jesuit schools are in ND’s neighborhood. They simply don’t have the resources. Good fallbacks for ND are GU then HC.

Same ND booster bringing up endowment over and over. Students don't feel the impact of endowments, which are primarily illiquid. I don't think there is any meaningful difference in US News rankings between GU and ND. However, GU definitely has an international edge and name recognition over ND.

It’s in Indiana for crying out loud. lol That was a non-starter for my city kids. Plus- we prefer the Jesuits.

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Anonymous wrote:For Class of 2029. Georgetown acceptance rate 12%, yield 47%. Holy Cross acceptance rate 17%, yield 47%. By contrast. Gonzaga acceptance rate 80%, yield 16%. LMU 49% acceptance rate, yield 14%. Santa Clara acceptance rate48%, yield 17%. Clearly Georgetown and Holy Cross are extremely selective the others are nowhere near.

Admission statistics can be misleading. Holy Cross, for example, admits more than 60% of its class through Early Decision, which drives its acceptance rate down pushes its yield up. Holy Cross is not really "extremely selective" when you consider their ED acceptance rate is 67%! Admission stats in general are not great at revealing the quality of an education. As Northeastern and Tulane have proven, they can be tweaked to make schools seem more selective and gin up interest, but don't show anything about the quality of what happens while you're at the school.

I know people on DCUM love to hate Tulane, but have you ever had a kid attend? What is the basis for your disparaging comments? I understand their admissions policies drive people mad, but the quality of education at Tulane is amazing. I have had kids at various universities, public and private, and the teaching and research opportunities at Tulane were superior. It is also a very well run university.

Can you be more specific so those who don't know can understand? What exactly is amazing?

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