Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because they don't want to actually parent their kids. They let their kids run roughshod and tell them how things are going to go instead of the other way around.

+100

This thread is very eye opening.

If your kid is so stubborn that they refuse to wear a coat in 20° weather to the point that they will throw a tantrum, then you have somehow screwed up parenting when they were younger. Raising entitled, stubborn, know-it-all kids is a major parenting fail.

Yes, it’s such a parenting fail to not fully break the will of a stubborn child when they’re young. Moron.

I'm sure one day when your child is a teen you'll be singing a different tune. Until then, enjoy your ignorance.

I have a teen. What now?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because they don't want to actually parent their kids. They let their kids run roughshod and tell them how things are going to go instead of the other way around.

+100

This thread is very eye opening.

If your kid is so stubborn that they refuse to wear a coat in 20° weather to the point that they will throw a tantrum, then you have somehow screwed up parenting when they were younger. Raising entitled, stubborn, know-it-all kids is a major parenting fail.

Eye opening to morons who don't have kids but seem to know all about raising them. Maybe when you grow up some day and have your own kids you can come back and tells us all about it. No kids are dying of hypothermia.

Oh look, another shitty parent coming to justify her shitty parenting. What a surprise.

Oh look another internet blowhard throwing her massive weight around.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because they don't want to actually parent their kids. They let their kids run roughshod and tell them how things are going to go instead of the other way around.

+100

This thread is very eye opening.

If your kid is so stubborn that they refuse to wear a coat in 20° weather to the point that they will throw a tantrum, then you have somehow screwed up parenting when they were younger. Raising entitled, stubborn, know-it-all kids is a major parenting fail.

Yes, it’s such a parenting fail to not fully break the will of a stubborn child when they’re young. Moron.

I'm sure one day when your child is a teen you'll be singing a different tune. Until then, enjoy your ignorance.

My oldest is a teen. I’ve never subscribed to the “total compliance, or else” model of parenting. Children should have some measure of control over their lives. If that means taking off their coat and being cold as a consequence, that’s fine.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because they don't want to actually parent their kids. They let their kids run roughshod and tell them how things are going to go instead of the other way around.

+100

This thread is very eye opening.

If your kid is so stubborn that they refuse to wear a coat in 20° weather to the point that they will throw a tantrum, then you have somehow screwed up parenting when they were younger. Raising entitled, stubborn, know-it-all kids is a major parenting fail.

Yes, it’s such a parenting fail to not fully break the will of a stubborn child when they’re young. Moron.

I'm sure one day when your child is a teen you'll be singing a different tune. Until then, enjoy your ignorance.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because they don't want to actually parent their kids. They let their kids run roughshod and tell them how things are going to go instead of the other way around.

+100

This thread is very eye opening.

If your kid is so stubborn that they refuse to wear a coat in 20° weather to the point that they will throw a tantrum, then you have somehow screwed up parenting when they were younger. Raising entitled, stubborn, know-it-all kids is a major parenting fail.

Eye opening to morons who don't have kids but seem to know all about raising them. Maybe when you grow up some day and have your own kids you can come back and tells us all about it. No kids are dying of hypothermia.

Oh look, another shitty parent coming to justify her shitty parenting. What a surprise.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because they don't want to actually parent their kids. They let their kids run roughshod and tell them how things are going to go instead of the other way around.

+100

This thread is very eye opening.

If your kid is so stubborn that they refuse to wear a coat in 20° weather to the point that they will throw a tantrum, then you have somehow screwed up parenting when they were younger. Raising entitled, stubborn, know-it-all kids is a major parenting fail.

Yes, it’s such a parenting fail to not fully break the will of a stubborn child when they’re young. Moron.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because they don't want to actually parent their kids. They let their kids run roughshod and tell them how things are going to go instead of the other way around.

+100

This thread is very eye opening.

If your kid is so stubborn that they refuse to wear a coat in 20° weather to the point that they will throw a tantrum, then you have somehow screwed up parenting when they were younger. Raising entitled, stubborn, know-it-all kids is a major parenting fail.

Eye opening to morons who don't have kids but seem to know all about raising them. Maybe when you grow up some day and have your own kids you can come back and tells us all about it. No kids are dying of hypothermia.

Why do you care

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here.

This thread went off the rails faster than I could imagine. Just to refocus my original question. I was specifically asking about elementary aged kids not taking a coat to school. They have cubbies in their claims so it's not a locker issue.

Nor was I talking about actually wearing a coat but parents who don't send them with a coat in their backpack just in case they have to go outside. My kids' school actually had an issue earlier this year that required everyone to leave the building. If this happened on a day like this, the kids would not be keeping warm running around.... they'd be standing in line freezing. Also, some schools are still having outside recess even in the cold, but elementary school kids without proper clothing aren't allowed to participate.

It just seems like most parents should want their kids prepared for things that aren't completely unexpected.

I don't understand what you are looking for here. Some kids will not wear coats because they do not mind being cold. These children would need to spend several hours outside before any harm would come to them in our mid-Atlantic climate. NO ONE IS GETTING HURT. They are just cold for 5-20 minutes at a time. Many of these kids have access to warmer clothing that they are actively refusing.

Now yes, there might be families who can not afford to buy new coats every year for their kids. Because, as you may know, kids grow a lot! I think if this is something that bothers you, calling a school and offering to donate several new coats in various sizes would be way more helpful than continually posting on the internet about this.

Hypothermia can occur even in temps up to 60°. Kids don’t have the muscle/body mass to keep them protected. Wind and rain increase the risk exponentially. We absolutely do get dangerous cold weather n the mid atlantic region and I really don’t understand why you think otherwise.


“For parents and carers of children

Young children and babies are at high risk from extreme cold and can develop hypothermia very quickly as their body size is so small. It is important to cover their head if they are out in cold weather.
Children can become colder much quicker than adults because they have less muscle mass.
Limit exposure to prolonged or extreme cold weather.”

https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/environment/factsheets/Pages/hypothermia.aspx

Anonymous wrote:Because they don't want to actually parent their kids. They let their kids run roughshod and tell them how things are going to go instead of the other way around.

+100

This thread is very eye opening.

If your kid is so stubborn that they refuse to wear a coat in 20° weather to the point that they will throw a tantrum, then you have somehow screwed up parenting when they were younger. Raising entitled, stubborn, know-it-all kids is a major parenting fail.

I don't know how this thread went so far off the rails to the point people are talking about underwear, but let me just jump in and say I'm pretty sure my kid went to kindergarten once without any underwear, just pants. He's 9 years old and I still ask him pretty frequently if he's wearing FRESH underwear. Yesterday we came home from sports and he cheerfully went up to take a shower and wash his hair... and proceeded to come down wearing his sports clothes. Have you judgmental people ever actually spent time around any elementary-aged boys? I'm sure some of these coatless kids left it in the car. Or it's sitting on the floor mat right by the door when they ran for the bus stop. Or many of them have coats with them, but they are wadded up at the bottom of the backpack. Or it's sitting in the locker, where it's been for 3 days because he keeps forgetting to bring it home. Or mom or dad asked about the coat 3 times that morning and finally gave up because they've already been late for school 10 times this year and there are 3 kids to drop off and every morning is a battle.

Anonymous wrote:I have done recess duty at an elementary school. Several boys never wanted to take their coats, even when it was below freezing. They would wear it to line up, then throw it on the ground outside while they played for 25 minutes in short sleeves. I can’t physically force children to put on and wear their coats. There wasn’t enough staff to send non coat wearing kids indoors for recess. I did notice a correlation between hyperactive and impulsive boys (yes all boys) and coat refusal. Perhaps they run hotter?

Kewl story

Anonymous wrote:I have done recess duty at an elementary school. Several boys never wanted to take their coats, even when it was below freezing. They would wear it to line up, then throw it on the ground outside while they played for 25 minutes in short sleeves. I can’t physically force children to put on and wear their coats. There wasn’t enough staff to send non coat wearing kids indoors for recess. I did notice a correlation between hyperactive and impulsive boys (yes all boys) and coat refusal. Perhaps they run hotter?

As the parent of one of those boys, this is interesting. He never wants to wear a coat either.

I have done recess duty at an elementary school. Several boys never wanted to take their coats, even when it was below freezing. They would wear it to line up, then throw it on the ground outside while they played for 25 minutes in short sleeves. I can’t physically force children to put on and wear their coats. There wasn’t enough staff to send non coat wearing kids indoors for recess. I did notice a correlation between hyperactive and impulsive boys (yes all boys) and coat refusal. Perhaps they run hotter?

Anonymous wrote:OP here.

This thread went off the rails faster than I could imagine. Just to refocus my original question. I was specifically asking about elementary aged kids not taking a coat to school. They have cubbies in their claims so it's not a locker issue.

Nor was I talking about actually wearing a coat but parents who don't send them with a coat in their backpack just in case they have to go outside. My kids' school actually had an issue earlier this year that required everyone to leave the building. If this happened on a day like this, the kids would not be keeping warm running around.... they'd be standing in line freezing. Also, some schools are still having outside recess even in the cold, but elementary school kids without proper clothing aren't allowed to participate.

It just seems like most parents should want their kids prepared for things that aren't completely unexpected.

I don't understand what you are looking for here. Some kids will not wear coats because they do not mind being cold. These children would need to spend several hours outside before any harm would come to them in our mid-Atlantic climate. NO ONE IS GETTING HURT. They are just cold for 5-20 minutes at a time. Many of these kids have access to warmer clothing that they are actively refusing.

Now yes, there might be families who can not afford to buy new coats every year for their kids. Because, as you may know, kids grow a lot! I think if this is something that bothers you, calling a school and offering to donate several new coats in various sizes would be way more helpful than continually posting on the internet about this.