Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OMG I siged the petition as a west county resident because I think that the regional model is not ready for prime time -- but I have to say that the DCC people are driving me nuts. They take over every single thread that has anything to do the boundary or program studies. They make this all about themselves. They are alienating potential allies across the county. They are really terrible advocates.
You understand there is a huge disparity in what your school has to offer and what ours offers? The DCC gives kids at least a chance to be lottery into another school that better meets their needs. We want equal opportunities for our kids. Your kids have what they need; ours don't.
Anonymous wrote:OMG I siged the petition as a west county resident because I think that the regional model is not ready for prime time -- but I have to say that the DCC people are driving me nuts. They take over every single thread that has anything to do the boundary or program studies. They make this all about themselves. They are alienating potential allies across the county. They are really terrible advocates.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Btw the notion that MCPS shouldn't invest in advanced courses in majority Black and Brown schools is racist. Their take is Black and Brown students are dumb based on their race and don't need these courses. The reality is Black and Brown students are underrepresented in these courses for a variety of reasons, some of which are MCPS's own fault. One of those reasons is simply not offering these courses in majority Black and Brown schools.
Nobody has said that. What has been repeated is that if there are only 5-10 kids in one school who qualify for a class, then the county does not have the resources to offer it in house- though those kids can access it through MC. Color of the skin is not a barrier for anyone in MCPS.
It does have the resources. It just doesn't want to allocate them in that way.
Exactly! If there only a few kids with interest or who qualify for a class, MCPS should NOT allocate funds in that way. Funds should be allocated for the biggest bang for the buck. And each school SHOULD determine what that is for their school population.
Educating smart kids has a massive "bang for the buck", especially those from low income communities whose parents can't afford or swing enrichment outside of school.
Transporting half the academically advanced cohort from a low income school to a high income school has a negative bang for the buck because it makes it harder to offer appropriate courses for the kids who are left behind. Their education suffers.
Any research supporting this hypothesis? Whose buck is it?
Any research supporting paying to teach MVC to Whitman students? Why are MY tax dollars paying for this? Humph.
If there is a full class of kids at any school, it makes sense for a math teacher to teach it. If there is not a full class of kids, it does not make sense. So, why don’t you ask the county for how many kids are requesting it at each school and go from there?
If there are not enough kids at Whitman, then absolutely it should be dropped. It doesn’t matter which school it is. It doesn’t matter the color of kid’s skin. All that matters is that it is for a full class of students who need that level of class.
But they don't need it. We know they don't need it because most qualified students in MCPS don't have access to it. Surely there is a better use of resources.
You’re right that they don’t NEED it, but if there’s enough interest, a school holds the class. Classes with low enrollment get canceled- it doesn’t matter if they are an art, a math, theater, whatever. Classes with high enrollment stay on the schedule. It doesn’t matter which MCPS school it is, they all follow that policy. This shouldn’t be so hard for you to understand.
The issue isn't low enrollment, its staffing allocations and what classes principals choose to offer.
If they don't need it, then cut it out from all schools. Why should kids from Whitman get it, but not at Kennedy?
You do realize it’s not just classes, right? Some schools have a marching band, others don’t. Some have a crew team, others don’t. Some have brand new buildings, others have crumbling walls. Some have ample student parking, others don’t. Some have open lunch, some have block scheduling, and so on and so forth. There are a million different aspects to these schools that make them different.
So should we cut all of that? Do you want to harm more kids so all’s fair?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Btw the notion that MCPS shouldn't invest in advanced courses in majority Black and Brown schools is racist. Their take is Black and Brown students are dumb based on their race and don't need these courses. The reality is Black and Brown students are underrepresented in these courses for a variety of reasons, some of which are MCPS's own fault. One of those reasons is simply not offering these courses in majority Black and Brown schools.
Nobody has said that. What has been repeated is that if there are only 5-10 kids in one school who qualify for a class, then the county does not have the resources to offer it in house- though those kids can access it through MC. Color of the skin is not a barrier for anyone in MCPS.
It does have the resources. It just doesn't want to allocate them in that way.
Exactly! If there only a few kids with interest or who qualify for a class, MCPS should NOT allocate funds in that way. Funds should be allocated for the biggest bang for the buck. And each school SHOULD determine what that is for their school population.
Educating smart kids has a massive "bang for the buck", especially those from low income communities whose parents can't afford or swing enrichment outside of school.
Transporting half the academically advanced cohort from a low income school to a high income school has a negative bang for the buck because it makes it harder to offer appropriate courses for the kids who are left behind. Their education suffers.
Any research supporting this hypothesis? Whose buck is it?
Any research supporting paying to teach MVC to Whitman students? Why are MY tax dollars paying for this? Humph.
If there is a full class of kids at any school, it makes sense for a math teacher to teach it. If there is not a full class of kids, it does not make sense. So, why don’t you ask the county for how many kids are requesting it at each school and go from there?
If there are not enough kids at Whitman, then absolutely it should be dropped. It doesn’t matter which school it is. It doesn’t matter the color of kid’s skin. All that matters is that it is for a full class of students who need that level of class.
But they don't need it. We know they don't need it because most qualified students in MCPS don't have access to it. Surely there is a better use of resources.
You’re right that they don’t NEED it, but if there’s enough interest, a school holds the class. Classes with low enrollment get canceled- it doesn’t matter if they are an art, a math, theater, whatever. Classes with high enrollment stay on the schedule. It doesn’t matter which MCPS school it is, they all follow that policy. This shouldn’t be so hard for you to understand.
The issue isn't low enrollment, its staffing allocations and what classes principals choose to offer.
If they don't need it, then cut it out from all schools. Why should kids from Whitman get it, but not at Kennedy?
You do realize it’s not just classes, right? Some schools have a marching band, others don’t. Some have a crew team, others don’t. Some have brand new buildings, others have crumbling walls. Some have ample student parking, others don’t. Some have open lunch, some have block scheduling, and so on and so forth. There are a million different aspects to these schools that make them different.
So should we cut all of that? Do you want to harm more kids so all’s fair?
+1 Well said. Some posters are arguing that every MCPS school should be identical but that’s just not realistic. Each school serves the students in their building. Let’s focus on making all schools great rather than exactly the same.
Anonymous wrote:You are arguing with the MVC Einstein poster. Her posts are exactly the same, all of the time. She has a tendency to color the truth.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Btw the notion that MCPS shouldn't invest in advanced courses in majority Black and Brown schools is racist. Their take is Black and Brown students are dumb based on their race and don't need these courses. The reality is Black and Brown students are underrepresented in these courses for a variety of reasons, some of which are MCPS's own fault. One of those reasons is simply not offering these courses in majority Black and Brown schools.
Nobody has said that. What has been repeated is that if there are only 5-10 kids in one school who qualify for a class, then the county does not have the resources to offer it in house- though those kids can access it through MC. Color of the skin is not a barrier for anyone in MCPS.
It does have the resources. It just doesn't want to allocate them in that way.
Exactly! If there only a few kids with interest or who qualify for a class, MCPS should NOT allocate funds in that way. Funds should be allocated for the biggest bang for the buck. And each school SHOULD determine what that is for their school population.
Educating smart kids has a massive "bang for the buck", especially those from low income communities whose parents can't afford or swing enrichment outside of school.
Transporting half the academically advanced cohort from a low income school to a high income school has a negative bang for the buck because it makes it harder to offer appropriate courses for the kids who are left behind. Their education suffers.
Any research supporting this hypothesis? Whose buck is it?
Any research supporting paying to teach MVC to Whitman students? Why are MY tax dollars paying for this? Humph.
If there is a full class of kids at any school, it makes sense for a math teacher to teach it. If there is not a full class of kids, it does not make sense. So, why don’t you ask the county for how many kids are requesting it at each school and go from there?
If there are not enough kids at Whitman, then absolutely it should be dropped. It doesn’t matter which school it is. It doesn’t matter the color of kid’s skin. All that matters is that it is for a full class of students who need that level of class.
But they don't need it. We know they don't need it because most qualified students in MCPS don't have access to it. Surely there is a better use of resources.
You’re right that they don’t NEED it, but if there’s enough interest, a school holds the class. Classes with low enrollment get canceled- it doesn’t matter if they are an art, a math, theater, whatever. Classes with high enrollment stay on the schedule. It doesn’t matter which MCPS school it is, they all follow that policy. This shouldn’t be so hard for you to understand.
The issue isn't low enrollment, its staffing allocations and what classes principals choose to offer.
If they don't need it, then cut it out from all schools. Why should kids from Whitman get it, but not at Kennedy?
You do realize it’s not just classes, right? Some schools have a marching band, others don’t. Some have a crew team, others don’t. Some have brand new buildings, others have crumbling walls. Some have ample student parking, others don’t. Some have open lunch, some have block scheduling, and so on and so forth. There are a million different aspects to these schools that make them different.
So should we cut all of that? Do you want to harm more kids so all’s fair?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Btw the notion that MCPS shouldn't invest in advanced courses in majority Black and Brown schools is racist. Their take is Black and Brown students are dumb based on their race and don't need these courses. The reality is Black and Brown students are underrepresented in these courses for a variety of reasons, some of which are MCPS's own fault. One of those reasons is simply not offering these courses in majority Black and Brown schools.
Nobody has said that. What has been repeated is that if there are only 5-10 kids in one school who qualify for a class, then the county does not have the resources to offer it in house- though those kids can access it through MC. Color of the skin is not a barrier for anyone in MCPS.
It does have the resources. It just doesn't want to allocate them in that way.
Exactly! If there only a few kids with interest or who qualify for a class, MCPS should NOT allocate funds in that way. Funds should be allocated for the biggest bang for the buck. And each school SHOULD determine what that is for their school population.
Educating smart kids has a massive "bang for the buck", especially those from low income communities whose parents can't afford or swing enrichment outside of school.
Transporting half the academically advanced cohort from a low income school to a high income school has a negative bang for the buck because it makes it harder to offer appropriate courses for the kids who are left behind. Their education suffers.
Any research supporting this hypothesis? Whose buck is it?
Any research supporting paying to teach MVC to Whitman students? Why are MY tax dollars paying for this? Humph.
If there is a full class of kids at any school, it makes sense for a math teacher to teach it. If there is not a full class of kids, it does not make sense. So, why don’t you ask the county for how many kids are requesting it at each school and go from there?
If there are not enough kids at Whitman, then absolutely it should be dropped. It doesn’t matter which school it is. It doesn’t matter the color of kid’s skin. All that matters is that it is for a full class of students who need that level of class.
But they don't need it. We know they don't need it because most qualified students in MCPS don't have access to it. Surely there is a better use of resources.
You’re right that they don’t NEED it, but if there’s enough interest, a school holds the class. Classes with low enrollment get canceled- it doesn’t matter if they are an art, a math, theater, whatever. Classes with high enrollment stay on the schedule. It doesn’t matter which MCPS school it is, they all follow that policy. This shouldn’t be so hard for you to understand.
The issue isn't low enrollment, its staffing allocations and what classes principals choose to offer.
If they don't need it, then cut it out from all schools. Why should kids from Whitman get it, but not at Kennedy?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Btw the notion that MCPS shouldn't invest in advanced courses in majority Black and Brown schools is racist. Their take is Black and Brown students are dumb based on their race and don't need these courses. The reality is Black and Brown students are underrepresented in these courses for a variety of reasons, some of which are MCPS's own fault. One of those reasons is simply not offering these courses in majority Black and Brown schools.
Nobody has said that. What has been repeated is that if there are only 5-10 kids in one school who qualify for a class, then the county does not have the resources to offer it in house- though those kids can access it through MC. Color of the skin is not a barrier for anyone in MCPS.
It does have the resources. It just doesn't want to allocate them in that way.
Exactly! If there only a few kids with interest or who qualify for a class, MCPS should NOT allocate funds in that way. Funds should be allocated for the biggest bang for the buck. And each school SHOULD determine what that is for their school population.
Educating smart kids has a massive "bang for the buck", especially those from low income communities whose parents can't afford or swing enrichment outside of school.
Transporting half the academically advanced cohort from a low income school to a high income school has a negative bang for the buck because it makes it harder to offer appropriate courses for the kids who are left behind. Their education suffers.
Any research supporting this hypothesis? Whose buck is it?
Any research supporting paying to teach MVC to Whitman students? Why are MY tax dollars paying for this? Humph.
If there is a full class of kids at any school, it makes sense for a math teacher to teach it. If there is not a full class of kids, it does not make sense. So, why don’t you ask the county for how many kids are requesting it at each school and go from there?
If there are not enough kids at Whitman, then absolutely it should be dropped. It doesn’t matter which school it is. It doesn’t matter the color of kid’s skin. All that matters is that it is for a full class of students who need that level of class.
But they don't need it. We know they don't need it because most qualified students in MCPS don't have access to it. Surely there is a better use of resources.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Btw the notion that MCPS shouldn't invest in advanced courses in majority Black and Brown schools is racist. Their take is Black and Brown students are dumb based on their race and don't need these courses. The reality is Black and Brown students are underrepresented in these courses for a variety of reasons, some of which are MCPS's own fault. One of those reasons is simply not offering these courses in majority Black and Brown schools.
Nobody has said that. What has been repeated is that if there are only 5-10 kids in one school who qualify for a class, then the county does not have the resources to offer it in house- though those kids can access it through MC. Color of the skin is not a barrier for anyone in MCPS.
It does have the resources. It just doesn't want to allocate them in that way.
Exactly! If there only a few kids with interest or who qualify for a class, MCPS should NOT allocate funds in that way. Funds should be allocated for the biggest bang for the buck. And each school SHOULD determine what that is for their school population.
Educating smart kids has a massive "bang for the buck", especially those from low income communities whose parents can't afford or swing enrichment outside of school.
Transporting half the academically advanced cohort from a low income school to a high income school has a negative bang for the buck because it makes it harder to offer appropriate courses for the kids who are left behind. Their education suffers.
Any research supporting this hypothesis? Whose buck is it?
Any research supporting paying to teach MVC to Whitman students? Why are MY tax dollars paying for this? Humph.
If there is a full class of kids at any school, it makes sense for a math teacher to teach it. If there is not a full class of kids, it does not make sense. So, why don’t you ask the county for how many kids are requesting it at each school and go from there?
If there are not enough kids at Whitman, then absolutely it should be dropped. It doesn’t matter which school it is. It doesn’t matter the color of kid’s skin. All that matters is that it is for a full class of students who need that level of class.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Btw the notion that MCPS shouldn't invest in advanced courses in majority Black and Brown schools is racist. Their take is Black and Brown students are dumb based on their race and don't need these courses. The reality is Black and Brown students are underrepresented in these courses for a variety of reasons, some of which are MCPS's own fault. One of those reasons is simply not offering these courses in majority Black and Brown schools.
Nobody has said that. What has been repeated is that if there are only 5-10 kids in one school who qualify for a class, then the county does not have the resources to offer it in house- though those kids can access it through MC. Color of the skin is not a barrier for anyone in MCPS.
It does have the resources. It just doesn't want to allocate them in that way.
Exactly! If there only a few kids with interest or who qualify for a class, MCPS should NOT allocate funds in that way. Funds should be allocated for the biggest bang for the buck. And each school SHOULD determine what that is for their school population.
Educating smart kids has a massive "bang for the buck", especially those from low income communities whose parents can't afford or swing enrichment outside of school.
Transporting half the academically advanced cohort from a low income school to a high income school has a negative bang for the buck because it makes it harder to offer appropriate courses for the kids who are left behind. Their education suffers.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Btw the notion that MCPS shouldn't invest in advanced courses in majority Black and Brown schools is racist. Their take is Black and Brown students are dumb based on their race and don't need these courses. The reality is Black and Brown students are underrepresented in these courses for a variety of reasons, some of which are MCPS's own fault. One of those reasons is simply not offering these courses in majority Black and Brown schools.
Nobody has said that. What has been repeated is that if there are only 5-10 kids in one school who qualify for a class, then the county does not have the resources to offer it in house- though those kids can access it through MC. Color of the skin is not a barrier for anyone in MCPS.
It does have the resources. It just doesn't want to allocate them in that way.
Exactly! If there only a few kids with interest or who qualify for a class, MCPS should NOT allocate funds in that way. Funds should be allocated for the biggest bang for the buck. And each school SHOULD determine what that is for their school population.
Educating smart kids has a massive "bang for the buck", especially those from low income communities whose parents can't afford or swing enrichment outside of school.
Transporting half the academically advanced cohort from a low income school to a high income school has a negative bang for the buck because it makes it harder to offer appropriate courses for the kids who are left behind. Their education suffers.
Any research supporting this hypothesis? Whose buck is it?
Any research supporting paying to teach MVC to Whitman students? Why are MY tax dollars paying for this? Humph.
If there is a full class of kids at any school, it makes sense for a math teacher to teach it. If there is not a full class of kids, it does not make sense. So, why don’t you ask the county for how many kids are requesting it at each school and go from there?
If there are not enough kids at Whitman, then absolutely it should be dropped. It doesn’t matter which school it is. It doesn’t matter the color of kid’s skin. All that matters is that it is for a full class of students who need that level of class.
But they don't need it. We know they don't need it because most qualified students in MCPS don't have access to it. Surely there is a better use of resources.
No one "needs" ceramics or yoga either, but many schools offer them because enough students are interested in them.
If a school doesn't offer ceramics, how will.the school know when enough students are interested in it to offer it?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Btw the notion that MCPS shouldn't invest in advanced courses in majority Black and Brown schools is racist. Their take is Black and Brown students are dumb based on their race and don't need these courses. The reality is Black and Brown students are underrepresented in these courses for a variety of reasons, some of which are MCPS's own fault. One of those reasons is simply not offering these courses in majority Black and Brown schools.
Nobody has said that. What has been repeated is that if there are only 5-10 kids in one school who qualify for a class, then the county does not have the resources to offer it in house- though those kids can access it through MC. Color of the skin is not a barrier for anyone in MCPS.
It does have the resources. It just doesn't want to allocate them in that way.
Exactly! If there only a few kids with interest or who qualify for a class, MCPS should NOT allocate funds in that way. Funds should be allocated for the biggest bang for the buck. And each school SHOULD determine what that is for their school population.
Educating smart kids has a massive "bang for the buck", especially those from low income communities whose parents can't afford or swing enrichment outside of school.
Transporting half the academically advanced cohort from a low income school to a high income school has a negative bang for the buck because it makes it harder to offer appropriate courses for the kids who are left behind. Their education suffers.
Any research supporting this hypothesis? Whose buck is it?
Any research supporting paying to teach MVC to Whitman students? Why are MY tax dollars paying for this? Humph.
If there is a full class of kids at any school, it makes sense for a math teacher to teach it. If there is not a full class of kids, it does not make sense. So, why don’t you ask the county for how many kids are requesting it at each school and go from there?
If there are not enough kids at Whitman, then absolutely it should be dropped. It doesn’t matter which school it is. It doesn’t matter the color of kid’s skin. All that matters is that it is for a full class of students who need that level of class.
But they don't need it. We know they don't need it because most qualified students in MCPS don't have access to it. Surely there is a better use of resources.
You’re right that they don’t NEED it, but if there’s enough interest, a school holds the class. Classes with low enrollment get canceled- it doesn’t matter if they are an art, a math, theater, whatever. Classes with high enrollment stay on the schedule. It doesn’t matter which MCPS school it is, they all follow that policy. This shouldn’t be so hard for you to understand.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Btw the notion that MCPS shouldn't invest in advanced courses in majority Black and Brown schools is racist. Their take is Black and Brown students are dumb based on their race and don't need these courses. The reality is Black and Brown students are underrepresented in these courses for a variety of reasons, some of which are MCPS's own fault. One of those reasons is simply not offering these courses in majority Black and Brown schools.
Nobody has said that. What has been repeated is that if there are only 5-10 kids in one school who qualify for a class, then the county does not have the resources to offer it in house- though those kids can access it through MC. Color of the skin is not a barrier for anyone in MCPS.
It does have the resources. It just doesn't want to allocate them in that way.
Exactly! If there only a few kids with interest or who qualify for a class, MCPS should NOT allocate funds in that way. Funds should be allocated for the biggest bang for the buck. And each school SHOULD determine what that is for their school population.
Educating smart kids has a massive "bang for the buck", especially those from low income communities whose parents can't afford or swing enrichment outside of school.
Transporting half the academically advanced cohort from a low income school to a high income school has a negative bang for the buck because it makes it harder to offer appropriate courses for the kids who are left behind. Their education suffers.
Any research supporting this hypothesis? Whose buck is it?
Any research supporting paying to teach MVC to Whitman students? Why are MY tax dollars paying for this? Humph.
If there is a full class of kids at any school, it makes sense for a math teacher to teach it. If there is not a full class of kids, it does not make sense. So, why don’t you ask the county for how many kids are requesting it at each school and go from there?
If there are not enough kids at Whitman, then absolutely it should be dropped. It doesn’t matter which school it is. It doesn’t matter the color of kid’s skin. All that matters is that it is for a full class of students who need that level of class.
But they don't need it. We know they don't need it because most qualified students in MCPS don't have access to it. Surely there is a better use of resources.