Anonymous wrote:This is why the Dems are a mess. You dislike Trump (as I do) because he's such a monster, but it's OK if your Dem candidate is another kind of monster cause...well Trump is one? That kind of logic is not logic. It's desperation and lack of imagination.

Who we need is someone good. Good as in talented politician without being a terror. Of course nobody is perfect and most politicians esp. great ones are no saints. But you know how they are good and great? Because they aren't complete morons who look like blatant __. To be someone nobody wants to work for - that's not being good at anything. If you can't figure out how to get people to do stuff without them hating you - you must suck as a politician. I don't know much about her but I know I wouldn't want her running my state.

Trump needs to be defeated by someone not like him. He needs to be defeated by someone better. Katie is not any better, maybe different but not better. Trump is on the wrong side of pushing hate and fear but nevertheless, he's clear about his messages and so he does it very well. Dems suck. They suck at just about everything having to do with marketing/comms. They cannot sell ice in the desert. And someone like Katie isn't even someone who should be selling because whatever she's selling, people will come to hate it. People like her aren't good in anything because they are mean spirited folks who are all about themselves. Sooner or later, Trump and her will both find their way to the same place.

I worked with a lot of right wing crazies in my day and while I disagreed completely with their politics, like wanted to barf anytime I heard them talk, they were however personally down to earth no joke shockingly remarkably decent folks. You cannot imagine how well they treated people by way of manners and ethically doing right by their staffs and those who they mingled in the work place. The fact that they believed in horrible ideas was ugh, but they always had support in part because as a human being, you didn't mind they were around. I sure as hell don't want to be around Katie! That is a huge difference.

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Anonymous wrote:This reminds me a bit of when Al Franken was essentially forced to resign by Schumer and Gillibrand. Be smarter about this, CA dems.

That's a huge leap in logic there.

Here’s where I see the similarities - the behavior at issue is not great but really isn’t terrible. The right whips everyone into a frenzy. Fellow democrats turn on a smart, talented and imperfect politician.

Right.

Is she soft and cozy? No. Is she advocating for policies that a) aid her constituents as they need it most, and b) not trying to overthrow the country and/or dismantle our democracy?

We're good. I don't want to be like her, but I would appreciate her voice in making policy. Sure. Let's do it.

Extremely debatable.

Katie Porter is one of those candidates that Democrats outside of California have latched onto for some reason, and I genuinely do not get it. This thread is full of people who have no connections to California telling us what to do, with apparently no understanding of her existing popularity. She has been propped up here for a long time. People don’t like her policies. She is not seen as effective. This video is the icing on the cake.

- Californian

you can remove references to "Katie Porter" and "California" from the above comment and replace them with "Stacy Abrams" and "Georgia" and it would still ring true. People in the DC area get worked into a froth over politicians in other states who really aren't that appealing

If a politician is far left, is sassy, and has intersectional identities, she will receive national attention. People love the girl boss vibes.

some girl boss! Abrams got a ton of money from outside of Georgia but lost two major elections. She is out of touch with the people who actually could vote for her

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Anonymous wrote:This reminds me a bit of when Al Franken was essentially forced to resign by Schumer and Gillibrand. Be smarter about this, CA dems.

That's a huge leap in logic there.

Here’s where I see the similarities - the behavior at issue is not great but really isn’t terrible. The right whips everyone into a frenzy. Fellow democrats turn on a smart, talented and imperfect politician.

Right.

Is she soft and cozy? No. Is she advocating for policies that a) aid her constituents as they need it most, and b) not trying to overthrow the country and/or dismantle our democracy?

We're good. I don't want to be like her, but I would appreciate her voice in making policy. Sure. Let's do it.

Extremely debatable.

Katie Porter is one of those candidates that Democrats outside of California have latched onto for some reason, and I genuinely do not get it. This thread is full of people who have no connections to California telling us what to do, with apparently no understanding of her existing popularity. She has been propped up here for a long time. People don’t like her policies. She is not seen as effective. This video is the icing on the cake.

- Californian

you can remove references to "Katie Porter" and "California" from the above comment and replace them with "Stacy Abrams" and "Georgia" and it would still ring true. People in the DC area get worked into a froth over politicians in other states who really aren't that appealing

If a politician is far left, is sassy, and has intersectional identities, she will receive national attention. People love the girl boss vibes.

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Anonymous wrote:This reminds me a bit of when Al Franken was essentially forced to resign by Schumer and Gillibrand. Be smarter about this, CA dems.

That's a huge leap in logic there.

Here’s where I see the similarities - the behavior at issue is not great but really isn’t terrible. The right whips everyone into a frenzy. Fellow democrats turn on a smart, talented and imperfect politician.

Right.

Is she soft and cozy? No. Is she advocating for policies that a) aid her constituents as they need it most, and b) not trying to overthrow the country and/or dismantle our democracy?

We're good. I don't want to be like her, but I would appreciate her voice in making policy. Sure. Let's do it.

Extremely debatable.

Katie Porter is one of those candidates that Democrats outside of California have latched onto for some reason, and I genuinely do not get it. This thread is full of people who have no connections to California telling us what to do, with apparently no understanding of her existing popularity. She has been propped up here for a long time. People don’t like her policies. She is not seen as effective. This video is the icing on the cake.

- Californian

you can remove references to "Katie Porter" and "California" from the above comment and replace them with "Stacy Abrams" and "Georgia" and it would still ring true. People in the DC area get worked into a froth over politicians in other states who really aren't that appealing

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Anonymous wrote:This is why the Dems are a mess. You dislike Trump (as I do) because he's such a monster, but it's OK if your Dem candidate is another kind of monster cause...well Trump is one? That kind of logic is not logic. It's desperation and lack of imagination.

Who we need is someone good. Good as in talented politician without being a terror. Of course nobody is perfect and most politicians esp. great ones are no saints. But you know how they are good and great? Because they aren't complete morons who look like blatant __. To be someone nobody wants to work for - that's not being good at anything. If you can't figure out how to get people to do stuff without them hating you - you must suck as a politician. I don't know much about her but I know I wouldn't want her running my state.

Trump needs to be defeated by someone not like him. He needs to be defeated by someone better. Katie is not any better, maybe different but not better. Trump is on the wrong side of pushing hate and fear but nevertheless, he's clear about his messages and so he does it very well. Dems suck. They suck at just about everything having to do with marketing/comms. They cannot sell ice in the desert. And someone like Katie isn't even someone who should be selling because whatever she's selling, people will come to hate it. People like her aren't good in anything because they are mean spirited folks who are all about themselves. Sooner or later, Trump and her will both find their way to the same place.

I worked with a lot of right wing crazies in my day and while I disagreed completely with their politics, like wanted to barf anytime I heard them talk, they were however personally down to earth no joke shockingly remarkably decent folks. You cannot imagine how well they treated people by way of manners and ethically doing right by their staffs and those who they mingled in the work place. The fact that they believed in horrible ideas was ugh, but they always had support in part because as a human being, you didn't mind they were around. I sure as hell don't want to be around Katie! That is a huge difference.

She is not .05% the monster Trump is. Don’t pretend they are the same.

Dems require perfection and republicans have no standards at all.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeeesh, this thread. It’s a good window into how California may actually, under someone as hated and vile as Trump, elect a Republican governor. That should be utterly incomprehensible, but here we are. Between the totalitarian demands for Christian journalists to remove any signs of their faith and the absolute refusal to admit that maybe Katie Porter should understand how not to throw a temper tantrum when faced with difficult questions… the progressive left is not sending its best, I see.

Almost every liberal here said she shouldn’t have acted that way. We’re just also pointing out the double standard republicans have. Did you not read the thread or are you being intentionally dishonest?

Sure, take “well ackshually” to voters already fed up with you and see how it goes. That’s a strategy for sure. 👍

Whatever. With the vile crap that constantly spews from Trump, Vance, Miller, Bondi etc., criticism about character or tantrums etc just rings hollow. Trump leads all politicians in tantrums and bad behavior.

GOP/MAGA are hypocrites with no morals, no integrity and no decency. Dems call this out. GOP coddles the jerks and promotes them. Any criticism of this woman by the right is just laughably hypocritical and hollow.

Anonymous wrote:This is why the Dems are a mess. You dislike Trump (as I do) because he's such a monster, but it's OK if your Dem candidate is another kind of monster cause...well Trump is one? That kind of logic is not logic. It's desperation and lack of imagination.

Who we need is someone good. Good as in talented politician without being a terror. Of course nobody is perfect and most politicians esp. great ones are no saints. But you know how they are good and great? Because they aren't complete morons who look like blatant __. To be someone nobody wants to work for - that's not being good at anything. If you can't figure out how to get people to do stuff without them hating you - you must suck as a politician. I don't know much about her but I know I wouldn't want her running my state.

Trump needs to be defeated by someone not like him. He needs to be defeated by someone better. Katie is not any better, maybe different but not better. Trump is on the wrong side of pushing hate and fear but nevertheless, he's clear about his messages and so he does it very well. Dems suck. They suck at just about everything having to do with marketing/comms. They cannot sell ice in the desert. And someone like Katie isn't even someone who should be selling because whatever she's selling, people will come to hate it. People like her aren't good in anything because they are mean spirited folks who are all about themselves. Sooner or later, Trump and her will both find their way to the same place.

I worked with a lot of right wing crazies in my day and while I disagreed completely with their politics, like wanted to barf anytime I heard them talk, they were however personally down to earth no joke shockingly remarkably decent folks. You cannot imagine how well they treated people by way of manners and ethically doing right by their staffs and those who they mingled in the work place. The fact that they believed in horrible ideas was ugh, but they always had support in part because as a human being, you didn't mind they were around. I sure as hell don't want to be around Katie! That is a huge difference.

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Anonymous wrote:This reminds me a bit of when Al Franken was essentially forced to resign by Schumer and Gillibrand. Be smarter about this, CA dems.

That's a huge leap in logic there.

Here’s where I see the similarities - the behavior at issue is not great but really isn’t terrible. The right whips everyone into a frenzy. Fellow democrats turn on a smart, talented and imperfect politician.

Right.

Is she soft and cozy? No. Is she advocating for policies that a) aid her constituents as they need it most, and b) not trying to overthrow the country and/or dismantle our democracy?

We're good. I don't want to be like her, but I would appreciate her voice in making policy. Sure. Let's do it.

Extremely debatable.

Katie Porter is one of those candidates that Democrats outside of California have latched onto for some reason, and I genuinely do not get it. This thread is full of people who have no connections to California telling us what to do, with apparently no understanding of her existing popularity. She has been propped up here for a long time. People don’t like her policies. She is not seen as effective. This video is the icing on the cake.

- Californian

you can remove references to "Katie Porter" and "California" from the above comment and replace them with "Stacy Abrams" and "Georgia" and it would still ring true. People in the DC area get worked into a froth over politicians in other states who really aren't that appealing

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Anonymous wrote:This reminds me a bit of when Al Franken was essentially forced to resign by Schumer and Gillibrand. Be smarter about this, CA dems.

That's a huge leap in logic there.

Here’s where I see the similarities - the behavior at issue is not great but really isn’t terrible. The right whips everyone into a frenzy. Fellow democrats turn on a smart, talented and imperfect politician.

Right.

Is she soft and cozy? No. Is she advocating for policies that a) aid her constituents as they need it most, and b) not trying to overthrow the country and/or dismantle our democracy?

We're good. I don't want to be like her, but I would appreciate her voice in making policy. Sure. Let's do it.

Extremely debatable.

Katie Porter is one of those candidates that Democrats outside of California have latched onto for some reason, and I genuinely do not get it. This thread is full of people who have no connections to California telling us what to do, with apparently no understanding of her existing popularity. She has been propped up here for a long time. People don’t like her policies. She is not seen as effective. This video is the icing on the cake.

- Californian

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Anonymous wrote:This reminds me a bit of when Al Franken was essentially forced to resign by Schumer and Gillibrand. Be smarter about this, CA dems.

That's a huge leap in logic there.

Here’s where I see the similarities - the behavior at issue is not great but really isn’t terrible. The right whips everyone into a frenzy. Fellow democrats turn on a smart, talented and imperfect politician.

Right.

Is she soft and cozy? No. Is she advocating for policies that a) aid her constituents as they need it most, and b) not trying to overthrow the country and/or dismantle our democracy?

We're good. I don't want to be like her, but I would appreciate her voice in making policy. Sure. Let's do it.

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Anonymous wrote:This reminds me a bit of when Al Franken was essentially forced to resign by Schumer and Gillibrand. Be smarter about this, CA dems.

That's a huge leap in logic there.

Here’s where I see the similarities - the behavior at issue is not great but really isn’t terrible. The right whips everyone into a frenzy. Fellow democrats turn on a smart, talented and imperfect politician.

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Anonymous wrote:This reminds me a bit of when Al Franken was essentially forced to resign by Schumer and Gillibrand. Be smarter about this, CA dems.

That's a huge leap in logic there.

DP but no, PP is just pointing out that Dems eat their own.