Anonymous wrote:I love how all the UR backers crap on Elon (a fantastic school with talented kids) and then clutch their pearls anytime someone says something negative about Richmond.

People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.

Anonymous wrote:Elon is a stronger academic school. But they are peers for sure.

Anonymous wrote:UR sits in one of the wealthiest, whitest corners of Richmond — surrounded by country clubs, private schools, and multi-million-dollar homes. The whole place still carries the legacy of the Old South.

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Anonymous wrote:When you look at actual academic outcomes, the difference becomes even clearer. Richmond doesn’t produce many Rhodes Scholars, Fulbright winners, or top-tier grad school placements at the same rate as truly elite schools. The alumni network is more regional than national, and while some grads do fine in business or consulting, you don’t see them leading cutting-edge research, founding major startups, or influencing national policy in large numbers. It’s a respectable, comfortable degree—but it doesn’t carry the weight or cachet of the schools it’s sometimes grouped with.

Even in Northern Virginia or D.C.—a region where high-achieving students and ambitious parents track college reputations closely—Richmond rarely enters the conversation as a top choice. You hear about UVA, William & Mary, etc.

where can you find stats on rhodes, fulbright or top tier grad school placement please?

They're mostly BSing. Richmond and William & Mary almost have the same number of Rhodes scholars (5 vs 6), but William and Mary is twice the size [source: https://www.rhodeshouse.ox.ac.uk/media2/b5jh4wvv/2023-rs-number-of-winners-by-institution.pdf]. Richmond is a Fulbright top producing institution, meanwhile William and Mary is not [source: https://www.fulbrightprogram.org/tpi/]. This is why we shouldn't trust random internet talking points with no sources. People here are obsessed with their own fiction.

William and Mary is even not on the list of Rhodes scholars you provided.

Yes it is. Under its official name College of William and Mary. Look in the Cs.

VT is ranked better than W&M per USNWR

Anonymous wrote:Elon is a stronger academic school. But they are peers for sure.

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Anonymous wrote:When you look at actual academic outcomes, the difference becomes even clearer. Richmond doesn’t produce many Rhodes Scholars, Fulbright winners, or top-tier grad school placements at the same rate as truly elite schools. The alumni network is more regional than national, and while some grads do fine in business or consulting, you don’t see them leading cutting-edge research, founding major startups, or influencing national policy in large numbers. It’s a respectable, comfortable degree—but it doesn’t carry the weight or cachet of the schools it’s sometimes grouped with.

Even in Northern Virginia or D.C.—a region where high-achieving students and ambitious parents track college reputations closely—Richmond rarely enters the conversation as a top choice. You hear about UVA, William & Mary, etc.

where can you find stats on rhodes, fulbright or top tier grad school placement please?

They're mostly BSing. Richmond and William & Mary almost have the same number of Rhodes scholars (5 vs 6), but William and Mary is twice the size [source: https://www.rhodeshouse.ox.ac.uk/media2/b5jh4wvv/2023-rs-number-of-winners-by-institution.pdf]. Richmond is a Fulbright top producing institution, meanwhile William and Mary is not [source: https://www.fulbrightprogram.org/tpi/]. This is why we shouldn't trust random internet talking points with no sources. People here are obsessed with their own fiction.

William and Mary is even not on the list of Rhodes scholars you provided.

Yes it is. Under its official name College of William and Mary. Look in the Cs.

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Anonymous wrote:When you look at actual academic outcomes, the difference becomes even clearer. Richmond doesn’t produce many Rhodes Scholars, Fulbright winners, or top-tier grad school placements at the same rate as truly elite schools. The alumni network is more regional than national, and while some grads do fine in business or consulting, you don’t see them leading cutting-edge research, founding major startups, or influencing national policy in large numbers. It’s a respectable, comfortable degree—but it doesn’t carry the weight or cachet of the schools it’s sometimes grouped with.

Even in Northern Virginia or D.C.—a region where high-achieving students and ambitious parents track college reputations closely—Richmond rarely enters the conversation as a top choice. You hear about UVA, William & Mary, etc.

where can you find stats on rhodes, fulbright or top tier grad school placement please?

They're mostly BSing. Richmond and William & Mary almost have the same number of Rhodes scholars (5 vs 6), but William and Mary is twice the size [source: https://www.rhodeshouse.ox.ac.uk/media2/b5jh4wvv/2023-rs-number-of-winners-by-institution.pdf]. Richmond is a Fulbright top producing institution, meanwhile William and Mary is not [source: https://www.fulbrightprogram.org/tpi/]. This is why we shouldn't trust random internet talking points with no sources. People here are obsessed with their own fiction.

William and Mary is even not on the list of Rhodes scholars you provided.

Yes it is. Under its official name College of William and Mary. Look in the Cs.

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Anonymous wrote:When you look at actual academic outcomes, the difference becomes even clearer. Richmond doesn’t produce many Rhodes Scholars, Fulbright winners, or top-tier grad school placements at the same rate as truly elite schools. The alumni network is more regional than national, and while some grads do fine in business or consulting, you don’t see them leading cutting-edge research, founding major startups, or influencing national policy in large numbers. It’s a respectable, comfortable degree—but it doesn’t carry the weight or cachet of the schools it’s sometimes grouped with.

Even in Northern Virginia or D.C.—a region where high-achieving students and ambitious parents track college reputations closely—Richmond rarely enters the conversation as a top choice. You hear about UVA, William & Mary, etc.

where can you find stats on rhodes, fulbright or top tier grad school placement please?

They're mostly BSing. Richmond and William & Mary almost have the same number of Rhodes scholars (5 vs 6), but William and Mary is twice the size [source: https://www.rhodeshouse.ox.ac.uk/media2/b5jh4wvv/2023-rs-number-of-winners-by-institution.pdf]. Richmond is a Fulbright top producing institution, meanwhile William and Mary is not [source: https://www.fulbrightprogram.org/tpi/]. This is why we shouldn't trust random internet talking points with no sources. People here are obsessed with their own fiction.

William and Mary is even not on the list of Rhodes scholars you provided.