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Anonymous wrote:Here’s a video of Tucker Carlson indoctrinating young conservatives this week with left wing populist messaging about the economy and how it’s not working for the middle class with “normal jobs”:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DMEQX6dv9NI/?igsh=MTlxdzZheGt6MHRpOA==

My kids are struggling to find jobs with health insurance.

One has one but it is shaky. Other does not

What Tucker is discussing is fact

And a key reason why Democrats lost.

Exactly. Come January, anyone buying health insurance on the open market is going to see their premiums rise by 75 percent. 75 percent! Obviously Republicans suck, but when was the last time anyone heard a Democrat talk about health insurance. Who gives a damn about diversity quotas and trans rights and restorative justice and equity and globalizing the intifada when you can't afford to see a doctor? The misplaced priorities of Democrats is absolutely breathtaking. There is mass disgust in this country with both Republicans and Democrats because neither give a damn about working and middle class Americans. And progressives are just as rotten as MAGA.

Me me! I heard Harris talk about it at her debate with the felon. I guess you were washing your hair?!?!

She also recounted how many times in his first term he tried to abolish the ACA in case people were continuously washing their hair from 2016-2020.

But the problem is the Affordable Care Act did not live up to its promise of lowering healthcare costs. Do you pay less in healthcare (defined as cost of insurance and out of pocket)? Do your doctors charge your insurance companies less?

Sure the ACA expanded coverage but the premise of expanded coverage was that fewer people would seek care in emergency rooms and that would lower costs (bc the healthcare providers were complaining the source of high costs was bc they had to treat the uninsured in emergency rooms).

The ACA does include some important provisions (forcing insurance companies to cover preexisting conditions) but it also was a huge source of additional revenue for private insurance companies who do not pass their profits along to consumers. And by focusing on coverage you also don’t give any incentive to providers to curtail costs.

If Harris campaigned on her original healthcare policy from 2020 (universal coverage which allows greater leverage in cost negotiation) that would have been something to consider. Campaigning on expanding ACA when ACA has flaws is not the answer.

That’s not the point. PP said “when was the last time you heard Dems talk about healthcare” and then called me a douchebag when I pointed out that Harris talked about it throughout her campaign. You obviously didn’t listen to the clip since she talked about expanding it. Honestly the problem here is that you and pp are also mudslinging, and constantly moving the goalposts.

People overwhelmingly like Dem policies. I don’t know what’s so hard for you Dems to understand about this?! Harris was likable. There’s credible evidence showing she had more votes due to election rigging.

I like Harris a lot. But my point was not that she didn’t talk about healthcare but that in 2024 she didn’t position healthcare the right way. It should be about “expanding ACA” it should be about fixing it or trying something new. I so wish the Dem candidates were more forthright about the policies they ish that work as well as the ones that are not working. Continuing to say ACA is a success that needs to be “expanded” when it’s clear to people that they are paying more for healthcare does not resonate. I’m not moving any goal posts - I just think the Dem establishment is not setting the right goals. In this case it should be lowering healthcare costs. Not doubling down on a specific policy / legislation they supported that didn’t meet the goals.

What I really like about Mamdani is that he openly says his 5 govt covert stores (in food deserts not replacing any private stores) is an experiment that he plans to try, assess, and change depending on the outcome. That is what we need more of - not Hiliary Clinton who was so sure she had a “policy for that” but a candidate who has new ideas and proposes them as trials to honestly assess if they work.

Our currently current challenges are complex and our mix of free market and government intervention complicates things. So there is no way to know what the solution is before it’s implemented.

Another example - the Trump baby bond. That will produce a great data set to monitor to see if establishing a fund at birth for each child (long called for by progressives btw) actually moved the needle in terms of income inequality.

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s a video of Tucker Carlson indoctrinating young conservatives this week with left wing populist messaging about the economy and how it’s not working for the middle class with “normal jobs”:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DMEQX6dv9NI/?igsh=MTlxdzZheGt6MHRpOA==

My kids are struggling to find jobs with health insurance.

One has one but it is shaky. Other does not

What Tucker is discussing is fact

And a key reason why Democrats lost.

Exactly. Come January, anyone buying health insurance on the open market is going to see their premiums rise by 75 percent. 75 percent! Obviously Republicans suck, but when was the last time anyone heard a Democrat talk about health insurance. Who gives a damn about diversity quotas and trans rights and restorative justice and equity and globalizing the intifada when you can't afford to see a doctor? The misplaced priorities of Democrats is absolutely breathtaking. There is mass disgust in this country with both Republicans and Democrats because neither give a damn about working and middle class Americans. And progressives are just as rotten as MAGA.

Me me! I heard Harris talk about it at her debate with the felon. I guess you were washing your hair?!?!

She also recounted how many times in his first term he tried to abolish the ACA in case people were continuously washing their hair from 2016-2020.

But the problem is the Affordable Care Act did not live up to its promise of lowering healthcare costs. Do you pay less in healthcare (defined as cost of insurance and out of pocket)? Do your doctors charge your insurance companies less?

Sure the ACA expanded coverage but the premise of expanded coverage was that fewer people would seek care in emergency rooms and that would lower costs (bc the healthcare providers were complaining the source of high costs was bc they had to treat the uninsured in emergency rooms).

The ACA does include some important provisions (forcing insurance companies to cover preexisting conditions) but it also was a huge source of additional revenue for private insurance companies who do not pass their profits along to consumers. And by focusing on coverage you also don’t give any incentive to providers to curtail costs.

If Harris campaigned on her original healthcare policy from 2020 (universal coverage which allows greater leverage in cost negotiation) that would have been something to consider. Campaigning on expanding ACA when ACA has flaws is not the answer.

That’s not the point. PP said “when was the last time you heard Dems talk about healthcare” and then called me a douchebag when I pointed out that Harris talked about it throughout her campaign. You obviously didn’t listen to the clip since she talked about expanding it. Honestly the problem here is that you and pp are also mudslinging, and constantly moving the goalposts.

People overwhelmingly like Dem policies. I don’t know what’s so hard for you Dems to understand about this?! Harris was likable. There’s credible evidence showing she had more votes due to election rigging.

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s a video of Tucker Carlson indoctrinating young conservatives this week with left wing populist messaging about the economy and how it’s not working for the middle class with “normal jobs”:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DMEQX6dv9NI/?igsh=MTlxdzZheGt6MHRpOA==

My kids are struggling to find jobs with health insurance.

One has one but it is shaky. Other does not

What Tucker is discussing is fact

And a key reason why Democrats lost.

Exactly. Come January, anyone buying health insurance on the open market is going to see their premiums rise by 75 percent. 75 percent! Obviously Republicans suck, but when was the last time anyone heard a Democrat talk about health insurance. Who gives a damn about diversity quotas and trans rights and restorative justice and equity and globalizing the intifada when you can't afford to see a doctor? The misplaced priorities of Democrats is absolutely breathtaking. There is mass disgust in this country with both Republicans and Democrats because neither give a damn about working and middle class Americans. And progressives are just as rotten as MAGA.

Me me! I heard Harris talk about it at her debate with the felon. I guess you were washing your hair?!?!

She also recounted how many times in his first term he tried to abolish the ACA in case people were continuously washing their hair from 2016-2020.

But the problem is the Affordable Care Act did not live up to its promise of lowering healthcare costs. Do you pay less in healthcare (defined as cost of insurance and out of pocket)? Do your doctors charge your insurance companies less?

Sure the ACA expanded coverage but the premise of expanded coverage was that fewer people would seek care in emergency rooms and that would lower costs (bc the healthcare providers were complaining the source of high costs was bc they had to treat the uninsured in emergency rooms).

The ACA does include some important provisions (forcing insurance companies to cover preexisting conditions) but it also was a huge source of additional revenue for private insurance companies who do not pass their profits along to consumers. And by focusing on coverage you also don’t give any incentive to providers to curtail costs.

If Harris campaigned on her original healthcare policy from 2020 (universal coverage which allows greater leverage in cost negotiation) that would have been something to consider. Campaigning on expanding ACA when ACA has flaws is not the answer.

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Anonymous wrote:OP is witnessing a small but loud part of the Democratic Party doubling down on ideas that will keep them out of power(except in deep blue cities) for a generation. It truly is a death spiral with no way to pull out or eject, just crash and burn.

This.

Especially if a fresh new talent doesn’t emerge before the next presidential election. Who are they going to run? Newsom? AOC? They desperately need a Trump or Obama like figure to appear soon for any shot.

Anonymous wrote:NP. I'm reading this thread with a bit of astonishment mixed with amusement. Does the OP actually think that she can manifest a leftward cultural shift simply by (falsely) stating we're in the middle of one?

If anything, the country is reacting to and moving away from the LWNJ nonsense foisted upon us over the last five or so years. Perhaps we will wind up somewhere in the middle as the pendulum swings. But further left? No way.

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s a video of Tucker Carlson indoctrinating young conservatives this week with left wing populist messaging about the economy and how it’s not working for the middle class with “normal jobs”:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DMEQX6dv9NI/?igsh=MTlxdzZheGt6MHRpOA==

My kids are struggling to find jobs with health insurance.

One has one but it is shaky. Other does not

What Tucker is discussing is fact

And a key reason why Democrats lost.

Exactly. Come January, anyone buying health insurance on the open market is going to see their premiums rise by 75 percent. 75 percent! Obviously Republicans suck, but when was the last time anyone heard a Democrat talk about health insurance. Who gives a damn about diversity quotas and trans rights and restorative justice and equity and globalizing the intifada when you can't afford to see a doctor? The misplaced priorities of Democrats is absolutely breathtaking. There is mass disgust in this country with both Republicans and Democrats because neither give a damn about working and middle class Americans. And progressives are just as rotten as MAGA.

Me me! I heard Harris talk about it at her debate with the felon. I guess you were washing your hair?!?!

She also recounted how many times in his first term he tried to abolish the ACA in case people were continuously washing their hair from 2016-2020.

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Anonymous wrote:OP is witnessing a small but loud part of the Democratic Party doubling down on ideas that will keep them out of power(except in deep blue cities) for a generation. It truly is a death spiral with no way to pull out or eject, just crash and burn.

If you mean the DSA wing, I don't really agree. That's not my politics (I'm center left) but we have been running moderates (HRC, KH in her campaign) and it hasn't resonated.

Anonymous wrote:OP is witnessing a small but loud part of the Democratic Party doubling down on ideas that will keep them out of power(except in deep blue cities) for a generation. It truly is a death spiral with no way to pull out or eject, just crash and burn.

Anonymous wrote:OP is witnessing a small but loud part of the Democratic Party doubling down on ideas that will keep them out of power(except in deep blue cities) for a generation. It truly is a death spiral with no way to pull out or eject, just crash and burn.

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s a video of Tucker Carlson indoctrinating young conservatives this week with left wing populist messaging about the economy and how it’s not working for the middle class with “normal jobs”:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DMEQX6dv9NI/?igsh=MTlxdzZheGt6MHRpOA==

My kids are struggling to find jobs with health insurance.

One has one but it is shaky. Other does not

What Tucker is discussing is fact

And a key reason why Democrats lost.

Exactly. Come January, anyone buying health insurance on the open market is going to see their premiums rise by 75 percent. 75 percent! Obviously Republicans suck, but when was the last time anyone heard a Democrat talk about health insurance. Who gives a damn about diversity quotas and trans rights and restorative justice and equity and globalizing the intifada when you can't afford to see a doctor? The misplaced priorities of Democrats is absolutely breathtaking. There is mass disgust in this country with both Republicans and Democrats because neither give a damn about working and middle class Americans. And progressives are just as rotten as MAGA.

Me me! I heard Harris talk about it at her debate with the felon. I guess you were washing your hair?!?!

She also recounted how many times in his first term he tried to abolish the ACA in case people were continuously washing their hair from 2016-2020.

So you're saying some throwaway line in a debate from an accidental candidate in a losing election that could be missed while washing your hair is what America should be focusing on? That's the answer? What is Chuck Schumer's health care policy? What is Hakeem Jeffries health care policy? They are the leaders of the Democratic Party. And I hear nothing from them or any other Democrat when it comes to real world issues that affect the middle class.

You people who work for government or Big Law or Fortune 500 companies love idly ignoring the concerns of Americans on different paths - creatives, consultants, small business people, gig economy people, young people kicked off their parents insurance - the vast majority of Americans. You simply wave dismissively. When I think of Democrats today, I think of the capital city in the Hunger Games - flamboyantly privileged people. Let them suffer seems to be the mantra of Democrats today.

The point is Democrats are not offering an alternative to MAGA tribalism. It's a completely useless party in 2025. The plan seems to be Trump sucks, and we'll just wait it out and get back to the Biden glory years when we can wave our do-gooder flags and do f**k all for the working and middle class for another four years while the country rots.

And I don't think that's going to be a winning plan going forward. Even after all the Trump garbage, most Americans still hate Democrats more. They offer nothing to most Americans except a giant We Hate You and Hope You Suffer More. The post-Obama Democratic Party is rotten to the core. At least with Republicans, I can understand both their greed and their anger. Democrats are just parasitical Washington creatures who care about nothing at all. It's only a game for them.

I voted to give you healthcare. You didn’t vote for an “accidental candidate who lost” who repeatedly talked about expanding the ACA. There was no throwaway lines about it. (The felon fluent mention it al FFS, yet you think he’s the answer for working class because he’s a “relatable billionaire.”)

Look in the mirror, my friend. You constantly change the goal post, so now your health care premiums will increase. So will mine. But I can afford them.

You are projecting. I voted for Harris and have health insurance. But your queeny "I voted to give you health insurance" cements my impression that Democrats are Hunger Games douchebags today.