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Anonymous wrote:Curious why the NCAP kids couldn’t show up for meets. We have several NCAP, ASA and RMSC swimmers that only come to meets. They might pop in for the last 15 minutes of a Friday practice to get a donut and see their friends.

All of them are in HS and you know HS kids do a lot of different things other than summer swim during holiday season.

NCAP coaches discourage doing HS and summer swim. They don’t like their swimmers being a team, because they like having full control over the swimmers.

100000%. Sorry to say, they are such A-holes about it. Can't let their swimmers have any fun. All for the glory of NCap and pocketbook of Ugast (we say that as NCap survivors)

Anonymous wrote:You can speculate all you want. He did not leave that mcsl team because of those swimmers departing Toll

Then why did he, pray tell, especially since it seems like more than one person thinks its a totally viable reason

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Anonymous wrote:Relatively new swim parent here, and these discussions lead me to wonder why MCSL doesn't consider age ups in their division assignments? Clearly these can be very impactful for teams, especially smaller ones

It is because different age groups swim different distances. 13-14s swim 4 different events than 15-18s. 11-12s swim 4 different events than 9-10s. The distances and times are incompatible, so aging up swimmers doesn’t work for the virtual simulation

This makes sense. Thank you!

You can speculate all you want. He did not leave that mcsl team because of those swimmers departing Toll

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Anonymous wrote:Damn CCRA brutal fall….

Tough break for a really nice community. Their coach quit unexpectedly in the preseason.

Also CCRA is true neighborhood pool with pretty small boundaries (NCC, Rock Creek and Somerset all within 2 miles). I think it is kind of amazing they made it all the way up to B, tbh.

I heard the story behind his departure and what a childish douche move that was.

Tell us all so we can judge too!

Allegedly, he left because he was mad that a couple fast kids on the team were leaving his club for a competing club.

There was not a single swimmer or coach at the club that was mad about those swimmers departing. Speculate on other stuff all you want, but that is a fact.

Not true. The coach threw a hissy fit and then quit his summer swim position at the last minute because he couldn’t handle that one of the departing swimmers was on his summer team. He is unfortunately known for acting this way when swimmers leave.

*more than 1 departing swimmer was on his summer league team.

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Anonymous wrote:Damn CCRA brutal fall….

Tough break for a really nice community. Their coach quit unexpectedly in the preseason.

Also CCRA is true neighborhood pool with pretty small boundaries (NCC, Rock Creek and Somerset all within 2 miles). I think it is kind of amazing they made it all the way up to B, tbh.

I heard the story behind his departure and what a childish douche move that was.

Tell us all so we can judge too!

Allegedly, he left because he was mad that a couple fast kids on the team were leaving his club for a competing club.

There was not a single swimmer or coach at the club that was mad about those swimmers departing. Speculate on other stuff all you want, but that is a fact.

Not true. The coach threw a hissy fit and then quit his summer swim position at the last minute because he couldn’t handle that one of the departing swimmers was on his summer team. He is unfortunately known for acting this way when swimmers leave.

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Anonymous wrote:Damn CCRA brutal fall….

Tough break for a really nice community. Their coach quit unexpectedly in the preseason.

Also CCRA is true neighborhood pool with pretty small boundaries (NCC, Rock Creek and Somerset all within 2 miles). I think it is kind of amazing they made it all the way up to B, tbh.

I heard the story behind his departure and what a childish douche move that was.

Tell us all so we can judge too!

Allegedly, he left because he was mad that a couple fast kids on the team were leaving his club for a competing club.

There was not a single swimmer or coach at the club that was mad about those swimmers departing. Speculate on other stuff all you want, but that is a fact.

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Anonymous wrote:My understanding is that everyone from their “elite” group left and it no longer exists. Pretty embarrassing if you have to fold a group due to lack of talent.

Whose elite group?

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Anonymous wrote:My understanding is that everyone from their “elite” group left and it no longer exists. Pretty embarrassing if you have to fold a group due to lack of talent.

Whose elite group?

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Anonymous wrote:Damn CCRA brutal fall….

Tough break for a really nice community. Their coach quit unexpectedly in the preseason.

Also CCRA is true neighborhood pool with pretty small boundaries (NCC, Rock Creek and Somerset all within 2 miles). I think it is kind of amazing they made it all the way up to B, tbh.

I heard the story behind his departure and what a childish douche move that was.

Tell us all so we can judge too!

Allegedly, he left because he was mad that a couple fast kids on the team were leaving his club for a competing club. While I do not know whether the story is true, it strikes me as the kind of thing he would do give the tantrums he has thrown previously when swimmers switched clubs.

I heard this as well. There was a thread last year where people warned about a similar thing happening with this coach and his club. Despite the good things I have heard about the club for younger swimmers, it would definitely give me pause if I was considering that club. You’re the adult, you just cannot act that way.

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Anonymous wrote:Curious why the NCAP kids couldn’t show up for meets. We have several NCAP, ASA and RMSC swimmers that only come to meets. They might pop in for the last 15 minutes of a Friday practice to get a donut and see their friends.

All of them are in HS and you know HS kids do a lot of different things other than summer swim during holiday season.

NCAP coaches discourage doing HS and summer swim. They don’t like their swimmers being a team, because they like having full control over the swimmers.

Anonymous wrote:Curious why the NCAP kids couldn’t show up for meets. We have several NCAP, ASA and RMSC swimmers that only come to meets. They might pop in for the last 15 minutes of a Friday practice to get a donut and see their friends.

All of them are in HS and you know HS kids do a lot of different things other than summer swim during holiday season.

Anonymous wrote:My understanding is that everyone from their “elite” group left and it no longer exists. Pretty embarrassing if you have to fold a group due to lack of talent.

Actually the talent is there- they just all leave around 14/15…..most go to NCap then they get to take credit, which is a shame.

My understanding is that everyone from their “elite” group left and it no longer exists. Pretty embarrassing if you have to fold a group due to lack of talent.

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Anonymous wrote:Damn CCRA brutal fall….

Tough break for a really nice community. Their coach quit unexpectedly in the preseason.

Also CCRA is true neighborhood pool with pretty small boundaries (NCC, Rock Creek and Somerset all within 2 miles). I think it is kind of amazing they made it all the way up to B, tbh.

I heard the story behind his departure and what a childish douche move that was.

Tell us all so we can judge too!

Allegedly, he left because he was mad that a couple fast kids on the team were leaving his club for a competing club. While I do not know whether the story is true, it strikes me as the kind of thing he would do give the tantrums he has thrown previously when swimmers switched clubs.

Oh haha, thanks for the 411. Knowing what I do about the coach, this sounds....on brand lol

It's too bad, too, bc the club team is great for age groupers- kids switching teams is normal around here. I think he needs to get over it