Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I read on twitter somewhere (don't have a link) that the county opted out of federal alerts. Don't know how true that it, but I did read it yesterday. I also read that campers along that same river, from different camps, died in 1979 and 1987...they even made a movie about one of the incidents. This is the third time it's happened in 50 years....I'm surprised these camps have not moved to a safer location. My own son went to a camp where his cabin was pretty much on a river bank. I shudder to think about it now. Cabins should never be located so close to rivers, especially when the counselors themselves are usually young themselves and inexperienced with weather events like these. Just a shame all the way around.

This is what happens when you don’t invest or fund infrastructure warning systems.

And funny how the Republicans/MAGAs do not want to discuss these problems and want to make it analyzing what the he$$ went wrong an offensive act.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I read on twitter somewhere (don't have a link) that the county opted out of federal alerts. Don't know how true that it, but I did read it yesterday. I also read that campers along that same river, from different camps, died in 1979 and 1987...they even made a movie about one of the incidents. This is the third time it's happened in 50 years....I'm surprised these camps have not moved to a safer location. My own son went to a camp where his cabin was pretty much on a river bank. I shudder to think about it now. Cabins should never be located so close to rivers, especially when the counselors themselves are usually young themselves and inexperienced with weather events like these. Just a shame all the way around.

This is what happens when you don’t invest or fund infrastructure warning systems.

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Anonymous wrote:Obviously. I am sure that he will.blame Bidenif he hasn't already done so

Well, that a good point.

Joe Biden was Vice President for 8 years and President for 4 years. That’s 12 years at the very top leadership positions in the nation.

And in that whole time, he never fixed the flooding problem in Texas hill country.

On Sunday, Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) told reporters that he would urge state lawmakers to focus on a better system of state warnings in the upcoming July special legislative session.


One such system exists in other flood-prone basins, where gauges in a cresting river automatically send alerts to a network of river sirens, which sound alarms across the area.

That’s technology that Kerrville officials say they have needed for years. But locals “reeled at the cost” of a county program, Kelly told PBS’s “Frontline,” and attempts to pay for it with state or federal funds failed.

In 2018, during the first Trump administration, Kerr County and the Upper Guadalupe River Authority applied to the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) for about $1 million to build a flood warning system — and were denied, KXAN reported.
This year, a bill that would have spent $500 million on a modern system of disaster warnings across the state passed the House but died in the Senate. One House member who voted against it, first-term state Rep. Wes Virdell (R), represents Kerr County.

“I can tell you in hindsight, watching what it takes to deal with a disaster like this, my vote would probably be different now,” Virdell told The Texas Tribune on Sunday, adding that he had objected to the measure’s price tag.

Anonymous wrote:I am only seeing British and Canadian news updates about the awful incident. How’s the mainstream American media reporting what is going on? It’s horrific that the death toll is now over 100.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2025/jul/07/texas-floods-rescue-teams-search-missing-more-heavy-rains-forecast-latest-news-updates?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I read on twitter somewhere (don't have a link) that the county opted out of federal alerts. Don't know how true that it, but I did read it yesterday. I also read that campers along that same river, from different camps, died in 1979 and 1987...they even made a movie about one of the incidents. This is the third time it's happened in 50 years....I'm surprised these camps have not moved to a safer location. My own son went to a camp where his cabin was pretty much on a river bank. I shudder to think about it now. Cabins should never be located so close to rivers, especially when the counselors themselves are usually young themselves and inexperienced with weather events like these. Just a shame all the way around.

This is what happens when you don’t invest or fund infrastructure warning systems.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FTR, I despise Trump and MAGA. But, these kids, the other RV campers along the river, the families in their river homes, etc. did not die because of Trump or NWS or DOGE or what have you. I am tired of this tragedy being used for political reasons. It won't turn me red or anything obviously, but you guys need to get a grip because you are not helping the cause. - Big Texas lib

Kerr county voted against putting flood sirens on the river because it was too much money. Didn’t the Texas legislature also vote against phone warnings? Here is an article:
https://www.texastribune.org/2025/07/06/texas-disaster-warning-emergency-communication-bill-kerrville-floods/

Just because the camp has been there for several decades didn’t mean it had to stay there. New science and technology should have been used to make better decisions, like relocate the camp.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FTR, I despise Trump and MAGA. But, these kids, the other RV campers along the river, the families in their river homes, etc. did not die because of Trump or NWS or DOGE or what have you. I am tired of this tragedy being used for political reasons. It won't turn me red or anything obviously, but you guys need to get a grip because you are not helping the cause. - Big Texas lib

Kerr county voted against putting flood sirens on the river because it was too much money. Didn’t the Texas legislature also vote against phone warnings? Here is an article:
https://www.texastribune.org/2025/07/06/texas-disaster-warning-emergency-communication-bill-kerrville-floods/

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Natural disasters unfortunately happen. But, if we do everything we can and have the right people, process in place, we can say we did all we could.

But, if you gut the staff that deals with natural disaster warning systems, and then bad sh*% happens, people will question whether the cuts impacted the ability to plan and respond.

And what exactly did the cuts achieve overall? It really didn't make a dent in the debt, which the Rs just raised by a sh*% ton. All for the sake of cutting taxes mostly for the rich.

Meanwhile, almost 100 lives lost, and now people questioning whether these cuts made things worse.

Or was this just all God's will? I can't keep up with MAGA excuses.

You realize cuts had nothing to do with this disaster - right? NWS did its job and sent out flood warnings and evacuation notices all through the night. There was no cell service in this area.

Why can’t you people be honest, even just once? This had nothing to do with Trump or cuts at all. The NWS was fully staffed and operational.

There was evidence that climate change is absolutely contributing to these types of extreme precipitation events. The Trump administration and the Trump voters are doing everything they can to prevent anyone from understanding this, predicting it , reacting to it, and investing in protecting ourselves from events like this.

We should all be looking at this horrifying disaster and others like it for the lessons to be learned for protecting human life. And if the Trump administration refuses to do that, then shame on them.

Anonymous wrote:Why do people hate Ted Cruz so much? Where is the empathy?

Ted Cruz Kept Sightseeing in Europe as Rescue Crews Searched for Missing Kids in Floods

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ted-cruz-was-vacationing-in-europe-as-emergency-crews-desperately-searched-for-texas-flood-survivors/

“He was with his family and a lone security guard,” said an eyewitness at the Parthenon. “As he walked past us, I simply said, ‘20 kids dead in Texas and you take a vacation?’

“He sort of grunted and walked on. His wife shot me a dirty look. Then they continued on with their tour guide.”

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I read on twitter somewhere (don't have a link) that the county opted out of federal alerts. Don't know how true that it, but I did read it yesterday. I also read that campers along that same river, from different camps, died in 1979 and 1987...they even made a movie about one of the incidents. This is the third time it's happened in 50 years....I'm surprised these camps have not moved to a safer location. My own son went to a camp where his cabin was pretty much on a river bank. I shudder to think about it now. Cabins should never be located so close to rivers, especially when the counselors themselves are usually young themselves and inexperienced with weather events like these. Just a shame all the way around.

This is what happens when you don’t invest or fund infrastructure warning systems.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Obviously. I am sure that he will.blame Bidenif he hasn't already done so

Well, that a good point.

Joe Biden was Vice President for 8 years and President for 4 years. That’s 12 years at the very top leadership positions in the nation.

And in that whole time, he never fixed the flooding problem in Texas hill country.

Anonymous wrote:I read on twitter somewhere (don't have a link) that the county opted out of federal alerts. Don't know how true that it, but I did read it yesterday. I also read that campers along that same river, from different camps, died in 1979 and 1987...they even made a movie about one of the incidents. This is the third time it's happened in 50 years....I'm surprised these camps have not moved to a safer location. My own son went to a camp where his cabin was pretty much on a river bank. I shudder to think about it now. Cabins should never be located so close to rivers, especially when the counselors themselves are usually young themselves and inexperienced with weather events like these. Just a shame all the way around.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FTR, I despise Trump and MAGA. But, these kids, the other RV campers along the river, the families in their river homes, etc. did not die because of Trump or NWS or DOGE or what have you. I am tired of this tragedy being used for political reasons. It won't turn me red or anything obviously, but you guys need to get a grip because you are not helping the cause. - Big Texas lib

Kerr county voted against putting flood sirens on the river because it was too much money. Didn’t the Texas legislature also vote against phone warnings? Here is an article:
https://www.texastribune.org/2025/07/06/texas-disaster-warning-emergency-communication-bill-kerrville-floods/

Yes.

And Republicans don't apparently care how many people die.

Anonymous wrote:Obviously. I am sure that he will.blame Bidenif he hasn't already done so