Anonymous
Post 06/16/2025 03:17     Subject: Between Gaza and Iran, has Israel gone too far?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The real question is:
"Is this the beginning of WWIII?"


Hardly. Nobody is coming to aid Iran. It will be pummeled until the regime is destroyed, no other countries have any interest in seeing it survive in its current form.


The entire region is supporting Iran, including Israel’s friends UAE and Saudi Arabia. Turkey is also supporting Iran.

Israel doesn’t have one backer in the Middle East/neighborhood with the exception of Azerbaijan I guess but they’re not a major country.

The Israelis kept making nice with Azerbaijan in attempts to spy on Iran

I suspect Israel’s hubris will blow up in their face.

You are dumb and uneducated and know nothing. Saudi Arabia is not supporting Iran at all, zero support. Their government sees Iran's leader as Hitler; this is in the press. You have no clue what you are talking about. Also, they are not idiots in the Persian Gulf, and you keep grouping the ENTIRE region into one hat while knowing nothing about their politics. Newsflash you mor*n, the region has different politics and economics and are not one entity as your racist dumbarse presumes they are.
Don't talk about things you know nothing of. Some of us live there and know what is what.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2025 02:30     Subject: Between Gaza and Iran, has Israel gone too far?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The myth of Israel being a victim is finally being shattered.


Yup, despite the fact that they assassinated almost every journalist in Gaza, don't let international journalist to go in independently, and the media is overwhelming repeating their talking points, people are finally seeing the true nature of Israel that it is and has been since it's inception.


Before its inception really. Have to remember King David hotel and all that.


true, Iran has never assassinated anyone:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Iranian_assassinations


Israel killed a lot more people in the King David hotel bombing than Iran has in its entire history per your list. Iran also seems to go after its dissidents. Israel doesn't care if you're Israeli, Palestinian, Iranian, British, American, Syrian, etc..

Its absolutely clear which is the destabilizing force for the region. Its a testament to Israeli control of media that anyone thinks otherwise.


You’re aware that Israel didn’t exist at the time of the King David Hotel bombing, right?

Oops.


You’re aware the Irgun bombed the hotel? Jewish terror groups are the first terror groups in the area. They brought terror to the region

The formation of the Jewish militias were a direct response to escalating violence against Jewish communities during the early 20th century, notably after the 1920 Nebi Musa riots, the 1921 Jaffa riots, and the 1929 Hebron massacre. The Muslims weren’t innocent bystanders.


In 1909, an organization called Hashomer (the Guardian) was founded by Yitzhak Ben Zvi and David Ben-Gurion as the first paramilitary formation which raised the slogan “Judaea was lost by blood and fire and will rise again by blood and fire.”

The Arab population felt threatened as early as the 1880s with the arrival of the first aliyah. The Arab population in the Palestine region began protesting against the acquisition of lands by the Jewish population. As a result, the Ottoman authorities banned land sales to foreigners in 1892. Clearly, tensions were already high.

Here's a link to an archived newspaper article dated April 18, 1908 which described a riot in Jaffa that led to the hospitalization and injuries of 13 Jews. The Arabs tried to burn down the hotel they were hiding in.

https://www.nli.org.il/en/newspapers/refadv/1908/04/18/01/article/11/?e=-------en-20--1--img-txIN%7CtxTI--------------1

Attacks on Jewish communities rose even more following the 1908 Young Turks Revolt. The Hashomer formed the following year in response to the ongoing violence. The Hashomer itself never numbered more than 100 members. They eventually fell out of favor with settlements for their policies and were replaced by the Haganah.

There was no single Zionist stance toward the local Arab population and no unified plan to push the Arabs out by force. Rather, views differed markedly across the movement. Case in point Theodor Herzl, one of the early thought leaders, did not foresee any conflict between Jews and Arabs. Herzl wanted to win over non-Jewish opinion for Zionism. He thought a rising economic tide would lift all boats. He imagined a society where Jews and Arabs could coexist peacefully, with Arabs enjoying equal rights and improved living standards.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2025 02:05     Subject: Re:Between Gaza and Iran, has Israel gone too far?

Anonymous wrote:

USS Liberty incident part 2?

They are sending the USS Nimitz to the middle east because its a year away from being retired. It would be a great opportunity to false flag it so the United States can declare war on Iran leading to regime change.


They don’t need to do that. Trump will follow their lead. He’ll just claim the war is not a war. The new thing is for US troops to be deployed to countries without our knowledge anyway and without the scene of a Congressional authorization or Mission Accomplished banner.

The ghost war was invented by Obama
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2025 00:13     Subject: Re:Between Gaza and Iran, has Israel gone too far?



USS Liberty incident part 2?

They are sending the USS Nimitz to the middle east because its a year away from being retired. It would be a great opportunity to false flag it so the United States can declare war on Iran leading to regime change.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2025 23:57     Subject: Between Gaza and Iran, has Israel gone too far?

Israel looks weak now begging the US to get involved. Iran isn’t begging Russia or China for help.

You have to finish what you started. Israel just looks like a client state of America without a real sovereignty or military might of their own. The optics of begging the United States doesn’t look good for them
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2025 23:51     Subject: Between Gaza and Iran, has Israel gone too far?

The Jewish state wasn’t going to become a state by giving Palestinians milk and cookies.

Come on. There was always a plan to move them out by force.

The victim card doesn’t work here. They planned this 30 years ahead of time. Arabs retaliated. They didn’t start violence against Jews because of that were the case, why would they move there from Europe for safety?

The Palestinians were sitting ducks. Jews were making plans. They were unaware.

Jews still think their counterparts are stupid but unfortunately for them, these days Hamas has taken all their tricks and used it against them. They were spying, drawing up maps of IDF bases, setting up phishing scams and viruses on IDF computers, and planning for years and Israel was oblivious to it and still thought they are just the sand and falafel people or whatever.

Israel’s biggest problem (as an outside observer) is their hubris and superiority complex (racism) to others. Sure not all of them are like that but a good majority are.

The people they hate have lived there for centuries and seen it all. They’re the new kid on the block and they’ve never stayed in one place for centuries

History shows they may lose
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2025 23:44     Subject: Between Gaza and Iran, has Israel gone too far?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The myth of Israel being a victim is finally being shattered.


Yup, despite the fact that they assassinated almost every journalist in Gaza, don't let international journalist to go in independently, and the media is overwhelming repeating their talking points, people are finally seeing the true nature of Israel that it is and has been since it's inception.


Before its inception really. Have to remember King David hotel and all that.


true, Iran has never assassinated anyone:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Iranian_assassinations


Israel killed a lot more people in the King David hotel bombing than Iran has in its entire history per your list. Iran also seems to go after its dissidents. Israel doesn't care if you're Israeli, Palestinian, Iranian, British, American, Syrian, etc..

Its absolutely clear which is the destabilizing force for the region. Its a testament to Israeli control of media that anyone thinks otherwise.


You’re aware that Israel didn’t exist at the time of the King David Hotel bombing, right?

Oops.


You’re aware the Irgun bombed the hotel? Jewish terror groups are the first terror groups in the area. They brought terror to the region

The formation of the Jewish militias were a direct response to escalating violence against Jewish communities during the early 20th century, notably after the 1920 Nebi Musa riots, the 1921 Jaffa riots, and the 1929 Hebron massacre. The Muslims weren’t innocent bystanders.


In 1909, an organization called Hashomer (the Guardian) was founded by Yitzhak Ben Zvi and David Ben-Gurion as the first paramilitary formation which raised the slogan “Judaea was lost by blood and fire and will rise again by blood and fire.”
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2025 23:41     Subject: Between Gaza and Iran, has Israel gone too far?

Anonymous wrote:I do not believe that Israel would have attacked Iran without the blessing of trump who wants the US in a war.


True. And yet, Trump's blessing and a bag of chips will leave you with a bag of chips. The man has no integrity and should not be trusted. By anyone.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2025 23:12     Subject: Between Gaza and Iran, has Israel gone too far?

Anonymous wrote:I do not believe that Israel would have attacked Iran without the blessing of trump who wants the US in a war.


Of course he knew. Don't believe whatever is said to the contrary. We're going to war with Iran. The neocons want to turn Iran into Libya or Iraq.

[That's been the plan since 1996.]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clean_Break:_A_New_Strategy_for_Securing_the_Realm
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2025 23:06     Subject: Between Gaza and Iran, has Israel gone too far?

I do not believe that Israel would have attacked Iran without the blessing of trump who wants the US in a war.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2025 22:34     Subject: Between Gaza and Iran, has Israel gone too far?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The real question is:
"Is this the beginning of WWIII?"


Hardly. Nobody is coming to aid Iran. It will be pummeled until the regime is destroyed, no other countries have any interest in seeing it survive in its current form.


The entire region is supporting Iran, including Israel’s friends UAE and Saudi Arabia. Turkey is also supporting Iran.

Israel doesn’t have one backer in the Middle East/neighborhood with the exception of Azerbaijan I guess but they’re not a major country.

The Israelis kept making nice with Azerbaijan in attempts to spy on Iran

I suspect Israel’s hubris will blow up in their face.


Not really. It’s more subtle than this. The other regional players don’t want an escalated war and would not intervene on Iran’s side. They also don’t want the US to intervene. They dislike the Iranian regime and will privately allow the Israelis to go ahead, but make public noise supporting Iran.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2025 20:32     Subject: Re:Between Gaza and Iran, has Israel gone too far?

Anonymous wrote:


FALSE.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2025 20:18     Subject: Between Gaza and Iran, has Israel gone too far?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The myth of Israel being a victim is finally being shattered.


Yup, despite the fact that they assassinated almost every journalist in Gaza, don't let international journalist to go in independently, and the media is overwhelming repeating their talking points, people are finally seeing the true nature of Israel that it is and has been since it's inception.


Before its inception really. Have to remember King David hotel and all that.


true, Iran has never assassinated anyone:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Iranian_assassinations


Israel killed a lot more people in the King David hotel bombing than Iran has in its entire history per your list. Iran also seems to go after its dissidents. Israel doesn't care if you're Israeli, Palestinian, Iranian, British, American, Syrian, etc..

Its absolutely clear which is the destabilizing force for the region. Its a testament to Israeli control of media that anyone thinks otherwise.


You’re aware that Israel didn’t exist at the time of the King David Hotel bombing, right?

Oops.


You’re aware the Irgun bombed the hotel? Jewish terror groups are the first terror groups in the area. They brought terror to the region

The formation of the Jewish militias were a direct response to escalating violence against Jewish communities during the early 20th century, notably after the 1920 Nebi Musa riots, the 1921 Jaffa riots, and the 1929 Hebron massacre. The Muslims weren’t innocent bystanders.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2025 19:57     Subject: Between Gaza and Iran, has Israel gone too far?

Anonymous wrote:Blowing things up for political goals was not a thing until the Irgun and stern gang started popularizing it


Oh yeah, I heard those guys along with the Haganah rebranded themselves as the IDF. But it looks like their modus operandi remained unchanged.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2025 19:48     Subject: Between Gaza and Iran, has Israel gone too far?

Blowing things up for political goals was not a thing until the Irgun and stern gang started popularizing it