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Anonymous wrote:The gun lives at t the range. Woman here and don’t mind guns, they live at the range where they are used and handled properly. If he won’t do that, teach your kids gun safety and consider divorce. Then mandate and decide how hard to fight if he prioritizes the gun over his family. Husband has considered a gun bc I was attacked and I say no even with that. Parents have guns and fine w gone safety protocols including acceptable mental health protocols

What range do you patronize that provides ongoing firearm storage service?

Only a gun club would provide that service. But you are paying a lot more than the gun he bought to be a member.

Owning a gun safely is not that hard - there are things called safes you bolt into your floor, wall or both that are nearly impossible to break into…and the people that could break into it aren’t wasting their time for a $600 Glock.
No kid is getting, that is for sure.

And yet, thousands (tens?!) of children do in fact get in there each year. You are wrong for claiming 100% success when there are so so so many gun deaths per years.

Sigh. NP. The kids who get ahold of guns aren't going through multiple safes, fingerprint triggers, etc. They're accessing guns that are carelessly stored. That was PP's point.

And it only takes one time to forget, or a kid to see the code (or find it written down). These are not foolproof, and you are being delusional to be so staunchly sure that would *never* happen to you.

Show me the stats on when those situations arose. Where a child was able to use a gun with a fingerprint lock on the trigger. Those stats might actually be comparable to curling iron deaths. And no, I'm not a gun nut at all. But you're delusional to think what you're doing in your life (speeding, for one) doesn't also have a failure rate to it. But you'll never agree so I'm not going to argue with you anymore.

But, but, but... GUNZ OMG!!!11!!

Yeah. Like this people keep their knives in a safe. And their electrical outlets locked. And their kids bubble wrapped.

People who know nothing about guns are paranoid and paralyzed by their own ignorance. Safe gun handling and gun safety training should be mandatory, especially here. If nothing else, people would be less hysterical about the mere mention of guns.

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Anonymous wrote:PP Other people on this post have big feelings about who cleans up the dishes after dinner! And people jump and say it's legitimate. I am fairly certain OP's DH did have a sense that she is not an avid fan, and yet, he still chose to do it.

The point: OP's spouse is allowed to do things OP is "not an avid fan" of. It would be different if she'd had a conversation and told him "You can go shooting, but NO guns in the house. Period." and then he brought a gun home. But that's not what happened.

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Anonymous wrote:That thing would get dropped off at the police station. You brought it home without asking me. I got rid of it without asking you. Fair's fair.

You sound like a fscking child. Grow up and learn how to have a conversation about your boundaries upfront instead of asking your family members to ask your royal permission or face your immature petty nonsense. Use your words.

Funny how you don’t say that about the husband? Sexist AH.

She's not his mommy or his boss. He doesn't need to beg her consent or her forgiveness for making an adult decision, responsibly.

There's nothing sexist about it. Flip the roles in the OP and my response is exactly the same, which is why the comment you're calling "sexist" is devoid of gender indicators at all. You're telling on yourself, PP.

You are sexist though, it’s coming through loud and clear. You think men have no responsibility to their spouse, but you think women DO have responsibility to theirs. You put all the blame for this situation on a woman “not communicating” but absolutely none on the man who didn’t communicate at all! Why isn’t HE using his words? Why aren’t you using equally harsh language towards him?

He did communicate, openly and honestly. That's how OP knows there's a gun.

You're projecting REALLY hard right now. I'm gonna let you, and it's about you, not me.

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Anonymous wrote:The gun lives at t the range. Woman here and don’t mind guns, they live at the range where they are used and handled properly. If he won’t do that, teach your kids gun safety and consider divorce. Then mandate and decide how hard to fight if he prioritizes the gun over his family. Husband has considered a gun bc I was attacked and I say no even with that. Parents have guns and fine w gone safety protocols including acceptable mental health protocols

What range do you patronize that provides ongoing firearm storage service?

Only a gun club would provide that service. But you are paying a lot more than the gun he bought to be a member.

Owning a gun safely is not that hard - there are things called safes you bolt into your floor, wall or both that are nearly impossible to break into…and the people that could break into it aren’t wasting their time for a $600 Glock.
No kid is getting, that is for sure.

And yet, thousands (tens?!) of children do in fact get in there each year. You are wrong for claiming 100% success when there are so so so many gun deaths per years.

Sigh. NP. The kids who get ahold of guns aren't going through multiple safes, fingerprint triggers, etc. They're accessing guns that are carelessly stored. That was PP's point.

And it only takes one time to forget, or a kid to see the code (or find it written down). These are not foolproof, and you are being delusional to be so staunchly sure that would *never* happen to you.

Show me the stats on when those situations arose. Where a child was able to use a gun with a fingerprint lock on the trigger. Those stats might actually be comparable to curling iron deaths. And no, I'm not a gun nut at all. But you're delusional to think what you're doing in your life (speeding, for one) doesn't also have a failure rate to it. But you'll never agree so I'm not going to argue with you anymore.

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Anonymous wrote:NP And what if she had tried to discuss these boundaries with her spouse and he still decided to proceed? This is a serious issue, what is the right approach? I know a couple where they had such a discussion, he was not comfortable in that case and she still went ahead and brought home guns hiding them from her spouse for a while until he found out. But he could not do anything at that point, like the earlier poster said "better to ask for forgiveness rather than permission".

And he really did not do anything when he learned he had been lied to about firearms in his home after he had clearly let his spouse know that he is not ok with that? And after she lied to him about something so serious. Talk about sexist. Why are people not outraged by that woman's actions? Did they have kids in the house?

Anonymous wrote:PP Other people on this post have big feelings about who cleans up the dishes after dinner! And people jump and say it's legitimate. I am fairly certain OP's DH did have a sense that she is not an avid fan, and yet, he still chose to do it.

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Anonymous wrote:That thing would get dropped off at the police station. You brought it home without asking me. I got rid of it without asking you. Fair's fair.

You sound like a fscking child. Grow up and learn how to have a conversation about your boundaries upfront instead of asking your family members to ask your royal permission or face your immature petty nonsense. Use your words.

Funny how you don’t say that about the husband? Sexist AH.

She's not his mommy or his boss. He doesn't need to beg her consent or her forgiveness for making an adult decision, responsibly.

There's nothing sexist about it. Flip the roles in the OP and my response is exactly the same, which is why the comment you're calling "sexist" is devoid of gender indicators at all. You're telling on yourself, PP.

You are sexist though, it’s coming through loud and clear. You think men have no responsibility to their spouse, but you think women DO have responsibility to theirs. You put all the blame for this situation on a woman “not communicating” but absolutely none on the man who didn’t communicate at all! Why isn’t HE using his words? Why aren’t you using equally harsh language towards him?

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Anonymous wrote:NP And what if she had tried to discuss these boundaries with her spouse and he still decided to proceed? This is a serious issue, what is the right approach? I know a couple where they had such a discussion, he was not comfortable in that case and she still went ahead and brought home guns hiding them from her spouse for a while until he found out. But he could not do anything at that point, like the earlier poster said "better to ask for forgiveness rather than permission".

I'm sure she would've put that in her rant, if it had happened, which it didn't. OP had big feelings she didn't take responsibility for communicating, and now she's trying to blame her spouse for not mindreading and doing what she wanted automagically. It's immature, at best.

And there's a big difference between "knows spouse is against it, does it anyway, and hides it" and "does thing as an adult without getting another adult's unnecessary permission first". Miles of difference. Light years, even.

Absolutely not. How dare you victim blame the op for this. You don’t have to be a mind reader to think maybe you should discuss this major purchase of a dangerous weapon with your spouse. You are placing all the blame on the person who was surprised with a gun in her face when she got home, but none on the man who made an impulsive decision without consulting anyone.

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Anonymous wrote:The gun lives at t the range. Woman here and don’t mind guns, they live at the range where they are used and handled properly. If he won’t do that, teach your kids gun safety and consider divorce. Then mandate and decide how hard to fight if he prioritizes the gun over his family. Husband has considered a gun bc I was attacked and I say no even with that. Parents have guns and fine w gone safety protocols including acceptable mental health protocols

I agree.

OP is looking for drama. I think they will divorce, but a responsibly stored gun won’t be the issue. It will be like number 36,971 of things she does not approve of that her husband does.
I bet him watching sports really gets her goat.

What range do you patronize that provides ongoing firearm storage service?

Only a gun club would provide that service. But you are paying a lot more than the gun he bought to be a member.

Owning a gun safely is not that hard - there are things called safes you bolt into your floor, wall or both that are nearly impossible to break into…and the people that could break into it aren’t wasting their time for a $600 Glock.
No kid is getting, that is for sure.

And yet, thousands (tens?!) of children do in fact get in there each year. You are wrong for claiming 100% success when there are so so so many gun deaths per years.

Listen...

There are responsible gun owners, who keep them in locked safes, and there are yahoos. Get me the figures on responsible gun owners with guns that were stolen from their locked safes by toddlers and then I'll understand and agree with your wackadoodle paranoia posting.

The dude bought a safe with the gun. The only reason there's a problem is he didn't get a permission slip from his paranoid, anti-gun wife. He's had this hobby for a while now. Why did she show zero interest? Why wasn't there a discussion upfront about where the gun boundaries were going to be when, you know, he started being interested in guns? And now she wants to whinge because he did a logical thing responsibly? And she posts it here, expecting the typical anti-gun paranoia-prone posters to immediately defend her?

OP sounds stupid. If it's important enough to freak out about, YOU have that conversation. This can't be considered a surprise, OP's spouse has been 100% upfront about it, and OP isn't a child. If it matters to her, she should've had these conversations upfront instead of getting mad at her spouse after the fact for not meeting her unspoken expectations.

It is perfectly reasonable for an adult with a gun hobby to responsibly own a gun and a safe. The problem here is OP.

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Anonymous wrote:The gun lives at t the range. Woman here and don’t mind guns, they live at the range where they are used and handled properly. If he won’t do that, teach your kids gun safety and consider divorce. Then mandate and decide how hard to fight if he prioritizes the gun over his family. Husband has considered a gun bc I was attacked and I say no even with that. Parents have guns and fine w gone safety protocols including acceptable mental health protocols

What range do you patronize that provides ongoing firearm storage service?

Only a gun club would provide that service. But you are paying a lot more than the gun he bought to be a member.

Owning a gun safely is not that hard - there are things called safes you bolt into your floor, wall or both that are nearly impossible to break into…and the people that could break into it aren’t wasting their time for a $600 Glock.
No kid is getting, that is for sure.

And yet, thousands (tens?!) of children do in fact get in there each year. You are wrong for claiming 100% success when there are so so so many gun deaths per years.

Sigh. NP. The kids who get ahold of guns aren't going through multiple safes, fingerprint triggers, etc. They're accessing guns that are carelessly stored. That was PP's point.

Agreed. Some of these people aren't thinking logically, and this thread has become a bit of a joke.

So how are thousands of kids killed every year from guns if everyone is super duper responsible? Clearly there’s a disconnect that you refuse to acknowledge.

Literally no one said everyone is super responsible. In fact, my response, had you bothered to read it, acknowledged that a lot of people aren't.

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Anonymous wrote:The gun lives at t the range. Woman here and don’t mind guns, they live at the range where they are used and handled properly. If he won’t do that, teach your kids gun safety and consider divorce. Then mandate and decide how hard to fight if he prioritizes the gun over his family. Husband has considered a gun bc I was attacked and I say no even with that. Parents have guns and fine w gone safety protocols including acceptable mental health protocols

What range do you patronize that provides ongoing firearm storage service?

Only a gun club would provide that service. But you are paying a lot more than the gun he bought to be a member.

Owning a gun safely is not that hard - there are things called safes you bolt into your floor, wall or both that are nearly impossible to break into…and the people that could break into it aren’t wasting their time for a $600 Glock.
No kid is getting, that is for sure.

And yet, thousands (tens?!) of children do in fact get in there each year. You are wrong for claiming 100% success when there are so so so many gun deaths per years.

Sigh. NP. The kids who get ahold of guns aren't going through multiple safes, fingerprint triggers, etc. They're accessing guns that are carelessly stored. That was PP's point.

Agreed. Some of these people aren't thinking logically, and this thread has become a bit of a joke.

So how are thousands of kids killed every year from guns if everyone is super duper responsible? Clearly there’s a disconnect that you refuse to acknowledge.

Literally no one said everyone is super responsible. In fact, my response, had you bothered to read it, acknowledged that a lot of people aren't.

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Anonymous wrote:The gun lives at t the range. Woman here and don’t mind guns, they live at the range where they are used and handled properly. If he won’t do that, teach your kids gun safety and consider divorce. Then mandate and decide how hard to fight if he prioritizes the gun over his family. Husband has considered a gun bc I was attacked and I say no even with that. Parents have guns and fine w gone safety protocols including acceptable mental health protocols

What range do you patronize that provides ongoing firearm storage service?

Only a gun club would provide that service. But you are paying a lot more than the gun he bought to be a member.

Owning a gun safely is not that hard - there are things called safes you bolt into your floor, wall or both that are nearly impossible to break into…and the people that could break into it aren’t wasting their time for a $600 Glock.
No kid is getting, that is for sure.

And yet, thousands (tens?!) of children do in fact get in there each year. You are wrong for claiming 100% success when there are so so so many gun deaths per years.

Sigh. NP. The kids who get ahold of guns aren't going through multiple safes, fingerprint triggers, etc. They're accessing guns that are carelessly stored. That was PP's point.

Agreed. Some of these people aren't thinking logically, and this thread has become a bit of a joke.

So how are thousands of kids killed every year from guns if everyone is super duper responsible? Clearly there’s a disconnect that you refuse to acknowledge.