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People want economic change but they don’t want illegal immigrants pouring across the border or trans swimmers setting women’s swimming records. Dems need to tack left on economics - like AOC and Bernie - but tack right on social issues - like Seth Moulten or Tester - if they want to have a hope of winning a national election.

Democrats don't want illegal immigration. Biden and Obama deported many more and legally, than Trump.
Democrats supported border reform bills that would address the many structural issues that exist. The GOP has tanked the bills every time they were offered, mostly to keep people like you angry. Sadly, their ploy worked.

This. Abortion used to be the issue republicans wanted to keep on the table. They had opportunities over the 50-year run to overturn Roe v Wade, but they didn’t want to lose their single-issue voters. But as public opinion on abortion started to shift, they knew they just needed to get it done and move on to their next boogie man issue.

And, to the original pp, do you realize what a small and rare problem trans athletes are in schools? Why shouldn’t it be handled locally? Why shouldn’t school districts be able to make the decision? There are so many variables, so shouldn’t it be on a case-by-case basis? Why do you guys want every aspect of our lives to be controlled by the federal government?

You need to get that hardly anyone agrees with the agenda that men should be able to self-identify as women. The fact that only thousands, not yet millions, of mentally ill men and boys have taken advantage of your dangerous policies changes nothing. Your policies are vile and you don't belong in power until you stop pushing them.

The thing is, in the pursuit of life, liberty and happiness, no one cares what you think. It isn't harming you. You live your life and let them live theirs.

Nope, sorry, try again. Every society gets to decide what's acceptable and this society is in the process of tearing down all of the madness you have introduced to make it very clear to you that transgenderism is not acceptable. Cry about it.

There was a time when being gay, or being black, or being Asian or being a woman could have fit into the sentence you just wrote. Maybe look in the mirror.

Yeah, blah blah, boo. You guys already tried analogizing between your sexual fetishes and race and nobody bought it.

Uh, maybe look at arrest records for who actually are the deviants and have strange fetishes. They aren't the trans people. More likely some southern or midwestern "pastor" who is also a MAGA.

You're on the right track. They are all overwhelmingly men, like your dear "trans women." Men are a demonstrated danger to women and girls, hence why we segregate certain spaces by sex. Your attempt to override that is a deliberate effort to endanger women and girls in service of your ideology. You are a bad person.

I always thought the “Don’t tread on me,” was in reference to tyranny, but you keep telling us that it’s in reference to trans.

So tyranny is actually fine with you folks.

Not allowing human males to play on the girls soccer team isn’t tyranny.

Let's draw this out. Exactly how many high school "boys" do you think are playing on girls soccer teams? By the way the right would have you believe, there are thousands and thousands, right? Reality, if there are more than 20 nationally I would be surprised.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't vote for Trump. I voted for Harris, I even took a few weekends to bike around exurban Pennsylvania to knock on doors for Harris. I had a brief surge of enthusiasm for Harris mainly because she wasn't Biden.

That said, this time around when Trump won, my reaction was... "meh, whatever, we'll get through it." Not the outrage like I had in 2016. A part of me felt like the Democrats kind of deserved to lose, the DNC has been so cringe and awful in recent years, and though I personally lean left, I felt like the Dems had overreached on a bunch of woke stuff that most Americans don't care about. That, and a bunch of people I know who are immigrants and people of color had soured on the Democrats and had become Trump-curious for a variety of reasons, and I didn't want to be one of those whiny white liberals who thought she knew better than anyone else. On top of it all, Trump 1 wasn't as horrific as I thought he would be, he was mostly embarrassing and clownish, but the economy hummed along. His foreign policy was dumb but didn't cause outright disasters just yet. All in all, 2017-2019 weren't terrible years for the average American. So I didn't join any marches or protests or sew any pink hats or rant on social media. I figured, well, he's pushing 80, he's kind of nuts and also just lazy, maybe he'll spend his whole term just golfing and tweeting and nothing will happen.

I had no idea how wrong I would be. How horrible things would get and so quickly. It's so much worse than anyone ever expected. I am truly afraid. Everyone is worried for their lives and livelihoods. Everything is bad, everything is a mess, it's so obviously an authoritarian oligarchy and it is no longer crying wolf. It's absolutely unbelievable. I thought American democratic institutions were strong enough to withstand a madman and his cult, but apparently not.

They didn't lean so far left. Their leadership is generally left of center, normal liberals, and not progressives. You are buying into the BS if you think Biden, Harris, Schumer and Jeffries are "so far left" - they are not Bernie, and Bernie and his flank are not the leadership of the party, though Trump is certainly making AOC look damned good right now.

Then, my dear, you are truly stupid because Trump told us what he was going to. You should have paid attention!

What more could she have done? She voted for Harris and campaigned for Harris in a swing state. That does not sound like a stupid person to me.

That said I agree with OP. I think Trump is awful and I blame the Democratic Party for leaning so far left that they lost the middle and even middle right who would have voted for Harris.

I blame those who voted for Trump and didn't care what it would do to the country.

Me too. I also blame the folks who thought it would be wise to nominate the one guy in 2020 who could fumble The White House back to Trump four years later. The Dem Party platform and/or leaning too far left was not the cause of their 2024 defeat. They lost because of a very weak and unpopular leader at the top whose poor communication skills allowed the opposition party to dictate what the Dem Party platform and agenda were to the American people.

Poop rolls downhill. Poop at the top of the hill is bad news for those downhill.

He was the one guy who could beat Trump in 2020 and he did. No one else would have.

The "one guy" lol. You do realize Trump was even less popular in 2020 than Biden was in 2024. Trump 2020 was as easily beatable Carter was in 1980.

If 77 year old Biden with his long history of immediate failure when running for POTUS is the "one and only guy" a major political party in a country of 335 million people can come up with to beat a candidate as weak as Trump 2020, then it's past time for that political party to be replaced.

Currently dysfunctional, yes, but we're not in replacement mode and no way in heck was Biden the one guy we could come up with to beat Trump in 2020. That's like saying Trump was the one guy who could beat Biden/Harris in 2024. Complete and utter nonsense.

The polling at the time undermines your assertion.

Hogwash.

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People want economic change but they don’t want illegal immigrants pouring across the border or trans swimmers setting women’s swimming records. Dems need to tack left on economics - like AOC and Bernie - but tack right on social issues - like Seth Moulten or Tester - if they want to have a hope of winning a national election.

Democrats don't want illegal immigration. Biden and Obama deported many more and legally, than Trump.
Democrats supported border reform bills that would address the many structural issues that exist. The GOP has tanked the bills every time they were offered, mostly to keep people like you angry. Sadly, their ploy worked.

This. Abortion used to be the issue republicans wanted to keep on the table. They had opportunities over the 50-year run to overturn Roe v Wade, but they didn’t want to lose their single-issue voters. But as public opinion on abortion started to shift, they knew they just needed to get it done and move on to their next boogie man issue.

And, to the original pp, do you realize what a small and rare problem trans athletes are in schools? Why shouldn’t it be handled locally? Why shouldn’t school districts be able to make the decision? There are so many variables, so shouldn’t it be on a case-by-case basis? Why do you guys want every aspect of our lives to be controlled by the federal government?

You need to get that hardly anyone agrees with the agenda that men should be able to self-identify as women. The fact that only thousands, not yet millions, of mentally ill men and boys have taken advantage of your dangerous policies changes nothing. Your policies are vile and you don't belong in power until you stop pushing them.

The thing is, in the pursuit of life, liberty and happiness, no one cares what you think. It isn't harming you. You live your life and let them live theirs.

Nope, sorry, try again. Every society gets to decide what's acceptable and this society is in the process of tearing down all of the madness you have introduced to make it very clear to you that transgenderism is not acceptable. Cry about it.

There was a time when being gay, or being black, or being Asian or being a woman could have fit into the sentence you just wrote. Maybe look in the mirror.

Yeah, blah blah, boo. You guys already tried analogizing between your sexual fetishes and race and nobody bought it.

Uh, maybe look at arrest records for who actually are the deviants and have strange fetishes. They aren't the trans people. More likely some southern or midwestern "pastor" who is also a MAGA.

You're on the right track. They are all overwhelmingly men, like your dear "trans women." Men are a demonstrated danger to women and girls, hence why we segregate certain spaces by sex. Your attempt to override that is a deliberate effort to endanger women and girls in service of your ideology. You are a bad person.

I always thought the “Don’t tread on me,” was in reference to tyranny, but you keep telling us that it’s in reference to trans.

So tyranny is actually fine with you folks.

Not allowing human males to play on the girls soccer team isn’t tyranny.

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Anonymous wrote:To say that everyone is worried for their lives is a stretch.

No, it's not a stretch.
When the POTUS ignores the Supreme Court and states that immigrants don't deserve trials, the Rule of Law is dead in the USA.
And without the Rule of Law, every one of us is vulnerable. Each and every one of us could be declared dead by Social Security (Elon Must has all of our financial information right now, yours and mine). Any one of us could be picked up off the street by masked men with no warrant, and shoved into an unmarked van, then sent -- where? To Louisiana? Texas? El Salvador? Without any due process, no trial, no hearing, no nothing. Gone, and the US government shrugs and says "Out of our control now! We can't bring her back!"

I'm very afraid, and you should be too.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't vote for Trump. I voted for Harris, I even took a few weekends to bike around exurban Pennsylvania to knock on doors for Harris. I had a brief surge of enthusiasm for Harris mainly because she wasn't Biden.

That said, this time around when Trump won, my reaction was... "meh, whatever, we'll get through it." Not the outrage like I had in 2016. A part of me felt like the Democrats kind of deserved to lose, the DNC has been so cringe and awful in recent years, and though I personally lean left, I felt like the Dems had overreached on a bunch of woke stuff that most Americans don't care about. That, and a bunch of people I know who are immigrants and people of color had soured on the Democrats and had become Trump-curious for a variety of reasons, and I didn't want to be one of those whiny white liberals who thought she knew better than anyone else. On top of it all, Trump 1 wasn't as horrific as I thought he would be, he was mostly embarrassing and clownish, but the economy hummed along. His foreign policy was dumb but didn't cause outright disasters just yet. All in all, 2017-2019 weren't terrible years for the average American. So I didn't join any marches or protests or sew any pink hats or rant on social media. I figured, well, he's pushing 80, he's kind of nuts and also just lazy, maybe he'll spend his whole term just golfing and tweeting and nothing will happen.

I had no idea how wrong I would be. How horrible things would get and so quickly. It's so much worse than anyone ever expected. I am truly afraid. Everyone is worried for their lives and livelihoods. Everything is bad, everything is a mess, it's so obviously an authoritarian oligarchy and it is no longer crying wolf. It's absolutely unbelievable. I thought American democratic institutions were strong enough to withstand a madman and his cult, but apparently not.

They didn't lean so far left. Their leadership is generally left of center, normal liberals, and not progressives. You are buying into the BS if you think Biden, Harris, Schumer and Jeffries are "so far left" - they are not Bernie, and Bernie and his flank are not the leadership of the party, though Trump is certainly making AOC look damned good right now.

Then, my dear, you are truly stupid because Trump told us what he was going to. You should have paid attention!

What more could she have done? She voted for Harris and campaigned for Harris in a swing state. That does not sound like a stupid person to me.

That said I agree with OP. I think Trump is awful and I blame the Democratic Party for leaning so far left that they lost the middle and even middle right who would have voted for Harris.

I blame those who voted for Trump and didn't care what it would do to the country.

Me too. I also blame the folks who thought it would be wise to nominate the one guy in 2020 who could fumble The White House back to Trump four years later. The Dem Party platform and/or leaning too far left was not the cause of their 2024 defeat. They lost because of a very weak and unpopular leader at the top whose poor communication skills allowed the opposition party to dictate what the Dem Party platform and agenda were to the American people.

Poop rolls downhill. Poop at the top of the hill is bad news for those downhill.

He was the one guy who could beat Trump in 2020 and he did. No one else would have.

The "one guy" lol. You do realize Trump was even less popular in 2020 than Biden was in 2024. Trump 2020 was as easily beatable Carter was in 1980.

If 77 year old Biden with his long history of immediate failure when running for POTUS is the "one and only guy" a major political party in a country of 335 million people can come up with to beat a candidate as weak as Trump 2020, then it's past time for that political party to be replaced.

Currently dysfunctional, yes, but we're not in replacement mode and no way in heck was Biden the one guy we could come up with to beat Trump in 2020. That's like saying Trump was the one guy who could beat Biden/Harris in 2024. Complete and utter nonsense.

The polling at the time undermines your assertion.

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People want economic change but they don’t want illegal immigrants pouring across the border or trans swimmers setting women’s swimming records. Dems need to tack left on economics - like AOC and Bernie - but tack right on social issues - like Seth Moulten or Tester - if they want to have a hope of winning a national election.

Democrats don't want illegal immigration. Biden and Obama deported many more and legally, than Trump.
Democrats supported border reform bills that would address the many structural issues that exist. The GOP has tanked the bills every time they were offered, mostly to keep people like you angry. Sadly, their ploy worked.

This. Abortion used to be the issue republicans wanted to keep on the table. They had opportunities over the 50-year run to overturn Roe v Wade, but they didn’t want to lose their single-issue voters. But as public opinion on abortion started to shift, they knew they just needed to get it done and move on to their next boogie man issue.

And, to the original pp, do you realize what a small and rare problem trans athletes are in schools? Why shouldn’t it be handled locally? Why shouldn’t school districts be able to make the decision? There are so many variables, so shouldn’t it be on a case-by-case basis? Why do you guys want every aspect of our lives to be controlled by the federal government?

You need to get that hardly anyone agrees with the agenda that men should be able to self-identify as women. The fact that only thousands, not yet millions, of mentally ill men and boys have taken advantage of your dangerous policies changes nothing. Your policies are vile and you don't belong in power until you stop pushing them.

The thing is, in the pursuit of life, liberty and happiness, no one cares what you think. It isn't harming you. You live your life and let them live theirs.

Nope, sorry, try again. Every society gets to decide what's acceptable and this society is in the process of tearing down all of the madness you have introduced to make it very clear to you that transgenderism is not acceptable. Cry about it.

There was a time when being gay, or being black, or being Asian or being a woman could have fit into the sentence you just wrote. Maybe look in the mirror.

Yeah, blah blah, boo. You guys already tried analogizing between your sexual fetishes and race and nobody bought it.

Uh, maybe look at arrest records for who actually are the deviants and have strange fetishes. They aren't the trans people. More likely some southern or midwestern "pastor" who is also a MAGA.

You're on the right track. They are all overwhelmingly men, like your dear "trans women." Men are a demonstrated danger to women and girls, hence why we segregate certain spaces by sex. Your attempt to override that is a deliberate effort to endanger women and girls in service of your ideology. You are a bad person.

I always thought the “Don’t tread on me,” was in reference to tyranny, but you keep telling us that it’s in reference to trans.

So tyranny is actually fine with you folks.

Not allowing human males to play on the girls soccer team isn’t tyranny.

Yeah, that’s my point airhead. They are a-ok with tyranny, but his forbid we have a trans woman playing golf.

Anonymous wrote:OP I could have written what you said except I mostly support the "woke stuff". I was not as upset after Harris lost compared with 2016, and hoped it would be sprt of like Trump's first term. But in the back of my mind I knew the risk of a second Trump term was high.

I think the GOP has been capturing the working class for decades. They do it by catering to people's worst instincts - fear and animosity towards people who are different from them.

Instead of fighting for the working class the Democrats have focused on catering to a broad fractured coalition that is impossible to maintain. So even though, consistently, Republicans break the economy and Democrats fix it, Democrats too often lose to terrible GOP candidates. I think this will.continue to be an issue as long as Democrats pretend to cater to the working class but rely mostly on UMC voters while the GOP succeeds in winning the working class via racism and xenophobia.

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People want economic change but they don’t want illegal immigrants pouring across the border or trans swimmers setting women’s swimming records. Dems need to tack left on economics - like AOC and Bernie - but tack right on social issues - like Seth Moulten or Tester - if they want to have a hope of winning a national election.

Democrats don't want illegal immigration. Biden and Obama deported many more and legally, than Trump.
Democrats supported border reform bills that would address the many structural issues that exist. The GOP has tanked the bills every time they were offered, mostly to keep people like you angry. Sadly, their ploy worked.

This. Abortion used to be the issue republicans wanted to keep on the table. They had opportunities over the 50-year run to overturn Roe v Wade, but they didn’t want to lose their single-issue voters. But as public opinion on abortion started to shift, they knew they just needed to get it done and move on to their next boogie man issue.

And, to the original pp, do you realize what a small and rare problem trans athletes are in schools? Why shouldn’t it be handled locally? Why shouldn’t school districts be able to make the decision? There are so many variables, so shouldn’t it be on a case-by-case basis? Why do you guys want every aspect of our lives to be controlled by the federal government?

You need to get that hardly anyone agrees with the agenda that men should be able to self-identify as women. The fact that only thousands, not yet millions, of mentally ill men and boys have taken advantage of your dangerous policies changes nothing. Your policies are vile and you don't belong in power until you stop pushing them.

The thing is, in the pursuit of life, liberty and happiness, no one cares what you think. It isn't harming you. You live your life and let them live theirs.

Nope, sorry, try again. Every society gets to decide what's acceptable and this society is in the process of tearing down all of the madness you have introduced to make it very clear to you that transgenderism is not acceptable. Cry about it.

There was a time when being gay, or being black, or being Asian or being a woman could have fit into the sentence you just wrote. Maybe look in the mirror.

Yeah, blah blah, boo. You guys already tried analogizing between your sexual fetishes and race and nobody bought it.

Uh, maybe look at arrest records for who actually are the deviants and have strange fetishes. They aren't the trans people. More likely some southern or midwestern "pastor" who is also a MAGA.

You're on the right track. They are all overwhelmingly men, like your dear "trans women." Men are a demonstrated danger to women and girls, hence why we segregate certain spaces by sex. Your attempt to override that is a deliberate effort to endanger women and girls in service of your ideology. You are a bad person.

I always thought the “Don’t tread on me,” was in reference to tyranny, but you keep telling us that it’s in reference to trans.

So tyranny is actually fine with you folks.

Not allowing human males to play on the girls soccer team isn’t tyranny.

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People want economic change but they don’t want illegal immigrants pouring across the border or trans swimmers setting women’s swimming records. Dems need to tack left on economics - like AOC and Bernie - but tack right on social issues - like Seth Moulten or Tester - if they want to have a hope of winning a national election.

Democrats don't want illegal immigration. Biden and Obama deported many more and legally, than Trump.
Democrats supported border reform bills that would address the many structural issues that exist. The GOP has tanked the bills every time they were offered, mostly to keep people like you angry. Sadly, their ploy worked.

This. Abortion used to be the issue republicans wanted to keep on the table. They had opportunities over the 50-year run to overturn Roe v Wade, but they didn’t want to lose their single-issue voters. But as public opinion on abortion started to shift, they knew they just needed to get it done and move on to their next boogie man issue.

And, to the original pp, do you realize what a small and rare problem trans athletes are in schools? Why shouldn’t it be handled locally? Why shouldn’t school districts be able to make the decision? There are so many variables, so shouldn’t it be on a case-by-case basis? Why do you guys want every aspect of our lives to be controlled by the federal government?

You need to get that hardly anyone agrees with the agenda that men should be able to self-identify as women. The fact that only thousands, not yet millions, of mentally ill men and boys have taken advantage of your dangerous policies changes nothing. Your policies are vile and you don't belong in power until you stop pushing them.

The thing is, in the pursuit of life, liberty and happiness, no one cares what you think. It isn't harming you. You live your life and let them live theirs.

Nope, sorry, try again. Every society gets to decide what's acceptable and this society is in the process of tearing down all of the madness you have introduced to make it very clear to you that transgenderism is not acceptable. Cry about it.

There was a time when being gay, or being black, or being Asian or being a woman could have fit into the sentence you just wrote. Maybe look in the mirror.

Yeah, blah blah, boo. You guys already tried analogizing between your sexual fetishes and race and nobody bought it.

Uh, maybe look at arrest records for who actually are the deviants and have strange fetishes. They aren't the trans people. More likely some southern or midwestern "pastor" who is also a MAGA.

You're on the right track. They are all overwhelmingly men, like your dear "trans women." Men are a demonstrated danger to women and girls, hence why we segregate certain spaces by sex. Your attempt to override that is a deliberate effort to endanger women and girls in service of your ideology. You are a bad person.

I always thought the “Don’t tread on me,” was in reference to tyranny, but you keep telling us that it’s in reference to trans.

So tyranny is actually fine with you folks.

Anonymous wrote:I knew it would be this bad, because my relatives who did vote for Trump wanted it to be this bad or even worse. They just don't think it will affect them.

They are wrong of course.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump is the only president who can cut deficit spending and finally reduce national debt.

We are paying almost one trillion dollars only in interest every single year and our country is not sustainable without meaningful cuts to spending and no politician is up to the job. Trump is willing to tak a bullet to accomplish such cuts even in the facw of swamp creatures striking back to continue the decades long grift.

What cuts has Trump made so far that are significantly reducing the debt? Federal salaries make up 5% of the budget, so firing 20% of all feds would save 1%. If Trump really wanted to reduce the debt he'd have to increase revenue and/or make cuts to Medicare/Medicaid/Social Security. Instead he's letting DOGE run wild bragging about "cutting" money that has already been spent, getting the amounts completely wrong (8 billion vs 8 million) and making actual cuts that will cost more than they save (IRS, for example).

And re-building what he destructs will cost more later. It’s all a giant scam for Elon to access our information for his own use, retaliate against departments that regulate him, and get contracts he doesn’t deserve.