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Post 04/03/2025 22:04     Subject: Disappointment
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JHU does not have EA. CMU and UNC do not have BME (probably a few others on the list too)


As I said many times, I meant to write ED instead of EA. CMU + UNC do, in fact, have BME. UNC's is technically a joint program w/ NCSU.




CMU is not ABET. Either is Dartmouth or UNC Not sure you or DD did the proper research. Just shotgunned apps.


DD really liked CMU and wanted to double major with BME. UNC's joint program was supposed to be more of a safety, and DD said that she loved Dartmouth's flexibility in that program.


UNC OOS was a safety?



Not exactly a complete safety because of OOS but definitely not a reach.


So UNC was a safety but not a safety. She shotgunned W&M but she didn’t shotgun W&M.



Anonymous
Post 04/03/2025 22:04     Subject: Disappointment
Anonymous wrote:It is unfortunate that you framed the search the way you did. Your daughter chose the schools on her list. She now multiple options from among them. That is the goal of the college search process.

It is not matching or exceeding your friends, or having what you thought would happen happen. I have the sense that rank is very important to you.

Focus more on fit. That is the path to success, both personally and professionally.


Your smart, hard working child got into excellent schools (that rejected a majority of their applicants).

Her job now is to decide which of those would make the best new home for her.

Nothing about this story should be perceived as devastating.
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2025 22:01     Subject: Disappointment
It is unfortunate that you framed the search the way you did. Your daughter chose the schools on her list. She now multiple options from among them. That is the goal of the college search process.

It is not matching or exceeding your friends, or having what you thought would happen happen. I have the sense that rank is very important to you.

Focus more on fit. That is the path to success, both personally and professionally.
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2025 22:00     Subject: Disappointment
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JHU does not have EA. CMU and UNC do not have BME (probably a few others on the list too)


As I said many times, I meant to write ED instead of EA. CMU + UNC do, in fact, have BME. UNC's is technically a joint program w/ NCSU.




CMU is not ABET. Either is Dartmouth or UNC Not sure you or DD did the proper research. Just shotgunned apps.


DD really liked CMU and wanted to double major with BME. UNC's joint program was supposed to be more of a safety, and DD said that she loved Dartmouth's flexibility in that program.


UNC OOS was a safety?



Not exactly a complete safety because of OOS but definitely not a reach.
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2025 21:59     Subject: Disappointment
Same old story, every year. OP, your kid was accepted at four great schools. Some kids haven't been accepted anywhere. Perhaps we could move on from the pity party?
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2025 21:57     Subject: Disappointment
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JHU does not have EA. CMU and UNC do not have BME (probably a few others on the list too)


As I said many times, I meant to write ED instead of EA. CMU + UNC do, in fact, have BME. UNC's is technically a joint program w/ NCSU.




CMU is not ABET. Either is Dartmouth or UNC Not sure you or DD did the proper research. Just shotgunned apps.


DD really liked CMU and wanted to double major with BME. UNC's joint program was supposed to be more of a safety, and DD said that she loved Dartmouth's flexibility in that program.


UNC OOS was a safety?

Anonymous
Post 04/03/2025 21:52     Subject: Re:Disappointment
Geography is hugh. We r from delaware and kid with these stats would have placed very well
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2025 21:49     Subject: Disappointment
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Anonymous wrote:Similar outcome for my daughter, and she was Asian. I realized college admission is holistic not meritocracy. Hoping next year is better.

I know ppl say not to compare, but her peers with institutional priorities placed Ivies, including with ACT of 31 and less course rigor.

It's not fair...but both our daughters will do very well! I am sure of it.


What does “institutional priorities” mean?


Depending on the institution, Fgli, large donor, geography, urm, legacy+, etc


Are you from NOVA as well? DD goes to a pretty competitive public but the entire area is quite competitive.
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2025 21:49     Subject: Disappointment
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Anonymous wrote: She obviously applied ED, got deferred and rejected. Not sure why you are pointing out a sore spot. I have a high stat kid who wants to eventually attend medical school. I wonder if it is better to major in something like history and just take all his med school pre reqs. Ds loves history, but knows he wants to go to med school.


I know of a friend that majored in history before going into med school, went to a great one as well. Many people major in humanities before applying to med - I feel like it can also help GPA.


I went to ivy undergrad and grad and most of my peers who are doctors were humanities majors for undergrad and did their core requirements for med school during the summer at other institutions or in post-bac programs. Of course, that requires having time and money, which they all did.

The only people out of my alma mater who did undergrad stem and applied successfully to med school were truly brilliant and I would not have wanted to be graded on a curve with them.
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2025 21:46     Subject: Disappointment
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Anonymous wrote:Similar outcome for my daughter, and she was Asian. I realized college admission is holistic not meritocracy. Hoping next year is better.

I know ppl say not to compare, but her peers with institutional priorities placed Ivies, including with ACT of 31 and less course rigor.

It's not fair...but both our daughters will do very well! I am sure of it.


What does “institutional priorities” mean?


Depending on the institution, Fgli, large donor, geography, urm, legacy+, etc
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2025 21:45     Subject: Disappointment
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
JHU does not have EA. CMU and UNC do not have BME (probably a few others on the list too)


As I said many times, I meant to write ED instead of EA. CMU + UNC do, in fact, have BME. UNC's is technically a joint program w/ NCSU.




CMU is not ABET. Either is Dartmouth or UNC Not sure you or DD did the proper research. Just shotgunned apps.


DD really liked CMU and wanted to double major with BME. UNC's joint program was supposed to be more of a safety, and DD said that she loved Dartmouth's flexibility in that program.
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2025 21:43     Subject: Disappointment
Anonymous wrote:Similar outcome for my daughter, and she was Asian. I realized college admission is holistic not meritocracy. Hoping next year is better.

I know ppl say not to compare, but her peers with institutional priorities placed Ivies, including with ACT of 31 and less course rigor.

It's not fair...but both our daughters will do very well! I am sure of it.


What does “institutional priorities” mean?
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2025 21:36     Subject: Disappointment
Anonymous wrote:Similar outcome for my daughter, and she was Asian. I realized college admission is holistic not meritocracy. Hoping next year is better.

I know ppl say not to compare, but her peers with institutional priorities placed Ivies, including with ACT of 31 and less course rigor.

It's not fair...but both our daughters will do very well! I am sure of it.


Thank you, and yes, I agree! Even with all the disappointment, kids like these will find success in any place! It's definitely hard not to compare, especially when you see how hard your DC has worked. Wishing your DD all the best!
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2025 21:33     Subject: Disappointment
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Anonymous wrote:She was WL at UVA because she applied RD, it’s much more competitive in RD, especially from NOVA and since she didn’t apply Early Action (with all of her classmates who apply ED elsewhere) she was signaling that she wasn’t really that interested in UVA.


So much about this reads as a troll post---with a lot of energy to keep coming back with updates.

If a school has EA, you must do EA. It is not binding, it just means you get your application in by Nov1/15 and get a result typically by mid February/late February. It signals to a university that you have your act together and know you want to attend. If you wait until RD, well by then you are AFTER ED1/ED2 and EA. So the school has already picked the vast majority of their freshman class. You could have done EA, you chose not to. Not a smart choice


Because she wasn't interested in UVA, she preferred to go OOS. She thought that she had a high chance with RD and wanted to focus on the rest of her applications. JHU has been her dream school for a very long time - We know it's very competitive, but she still thought she had a chance. And yes, I'm definitely spending my Tuesday evening on here "trolling" instead of asking for advice/support from those of us in a similar situation - Please think of more original insults.


What prevented an ED application to JHU?


Exactly, most of the schools OP DD applied to are going to be $80-90K+. If you need FA, you are not applying to that list typically. You would have several "1 tier down" that give great aid if you cannot afford it.


Like I said, she applied ED2. I meant to write ED instead of EA.


DP. If JHU was her first choice, why didn't she apply ED1?


DD worked a lot on her application for JHU and thought that more time would be beneficial. Maybe it was the wrong choice.


Now I really think you are a troll. You know all about trying to do whatever it is that is beneficial to college admission including setting up a non-profit but you write EA instead of ED.
Then you admit she applied ED2 to her dream school.

551 students were accepted to Hopkins for fall 2025 in the Early Decision I cohort. That is over 1/3 of the freshman class.


Good God, so you really are this dense. Yes, I accidentally made a mistake and wrote EA instead of ED. The horror! And like I said, applying ED2 was DD's decision - She thought it would be better for her. The non-profit was her idea as well.
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2025 21:32     Subject: Disappointment
Similar outcome for my daughter, and she was Asian. I realized college admission is holistic not meritocracy. Hoping next year is better.

I know ppl say not to compare, but her peers with institutional priorities placed Ivies, including with ACT of 31 and less course rigor.

It's not fair...but both our daughters will do very well! I am sure of it.