Anonymous wrote:Columbia , UPenn , Brown and Dartmouth in a lower cluster and Cornell an outlier given a huuuge no of undergrads there

Who thinks Columbia is anything other than a grotesque imitation of an institution of higher learning?

Anonymous wrote:Harvard
Yale
Stanford
Princeton
MIT
Cal Tech
UChicago
Duke
Northwestern
Cornell
Brown

+1

Not sure about Bucknell but the outcomes of Holy Cross grads is impressive.

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Anonymous wrote:If you stay at DCUM long enough, these Prestige rankings would have you believe UVA/W&M are TOP 10, JMU is top 20 and the SEC now is TOP 30.

Well, by any measurement SEC schools like Vanderbilt, Texas, and Florida are all very good schools and are in fact ranked in the top 30.

Looking at the 4 elite feeders that a PP linked you can see that though they are good schools Texas and Florida get zero interest from these families and Vandy is a minor player as well. Overall the elite outside of the South really don't care for SEC schools with the possible exception of RIce.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think most of us here are "in the know"

Harvard, Stanford, and Yale have global name recognition. Beyond that, the lay prestige varies considerably by region in the US and country abroad.

Honestly Yale isn’t really global the way Harvard and Stanford are. Internationally Yale and Columbia probably hold the same weight

Yes, many people overseas have never heard of Yale but definitley know Harvard, actually the only US school with branding overseas.

Yale grad. Not my experience.

Columbia , UPenn , Brown and Dartmouth in a lower cluster and Cornell an outlier given a huuuge no of undergrads there

Anonymous wrote:If you stay at DCUM long enough, these Prestige rankings would have you believe UVA/W&M are TOP 10, JMU is top 20 and the SEC now is TOP 30.

In the LAC world, if you stay at DCUM long enough, Bucknell and Holy Cross belong to top 10.

Among the historical top ten, UChicago has slipped to a lower ranked school that heavily rely on ED practice, for a long time. Columbia has been heavily impacted in the past two years. Hopefully it will remain/rise to its position. We will see. Penn solidly replaces UChicago in the top ten list. Cornell is promising. The problem with Cornell is its huge size, but it doesn't have the diploma mill master degree thing going on rampantly in Columbia.

Anonymous wrote:If you stay at DCUM long enough, these Prestige rankings would have you believe UVA/W&M are TOP 10, JMU is top 20 and the SEC now is TOP 30.

Very reasonable rankings.

Anonymous wrote:If you stay at DCUM long enough, these Prestige rankings would have you believe UVA/W&M are TOP 10, JMU is top 20 and the SEC now is TOP 30.

Well, by any measurement SEC schools like Vanderbilt, Texas, and Florida are all very good schools and are in fact ranked in the top 30.

If you stay at DCUM long enough, these Prestige rankings would have you believe UVA/W&M are TOP 10, JMU is top 20 and the SEC now is TOP 30.

Anonymous wrote:Good job everyone, we finally figured it out!

Lets do it again tomorrow just in case.

This is funny and I want to have a beer with the author.

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Anonymous wrote:The Ansnwer is pretty simple as it has always been….please spare me the PUBLIC BS….

It is Ivies +

The + = Stanford, MIT, Caltech

The rest is irrelevant. Sure there are great schools in the “rest” category. But when the word os PRESTIGE, it is very simple as it has always been and as it will always be, no matter how many alums or moms around here want to scream UVA, DUKE, VANDY, NORTHWESTERN, CHICAGO….BLABLABLABLABLA

Yes, & if your girlfriend isn’t a supermodel who is also a neurosurgeon, you should refuse to be seen in public with her.

True.
But PP is correct. All it matters for Prestige is IVY +. Let’s stop the madness….

And whoever said nobody knows what Duke is, is 100% correct. My husband is a Duke undergrad and Cornell MBA. We lived in Europe for 15 years. Guess which school people that we worked with knew about? It wasn’t Duke….

Only in your mind is Cornell a big deal. Easiest one to get into.

Nobody said it is a big deal. Only you. You might like the fact that outside the US, Duke is an unknown and Cornell is ….known…..I dont care what you think. We experienced for 15 yrs with my husband having both schools in his resume.

Ha! Now we know your identity!

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Anonymous wrote:I think two discussions are being had here, schools with lay prestige and schools that people “in the know” respect, both still focusing




“In the know”:

1. Harvard
2. MIT
3. Stanford
4. Princeton
5. Caltech
6. Yale
7. Columbia
8. Penn
9. Duke
10. UChicago

Columbia should drop 1-2 spots in each case

Remove Columbia/Penn and perhaps Duke from “ in the know” list

Columbia is dropping by the minute. It just passed Arkansas Tech.