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Anonymous wrote:It’s the largest layoff in US history - could affect 200,000 employees. The largest to this point was IBM in the 90s that affected around 60,000 people.

That’s alot of people. My dad was impacted by those IBM layoffs. He never really recovered.

I wonder how this will impact local unemployment offices, do they have the funding and resources in place right now to support so many people being let go at one time??

200,000 is the total number of probationaries across the whole government, but there appear to be a lot so agencies exempt. All of DoD appears to be exempt and that probably half of them right there. I’m sure a lot is DHS is exempt and that’s likely another 20% or more. Lots of new people at BP, ICE, and TSA since they’ve been non hiring surges the last couple years.

Long term looking out 20-50 years firing everyone hired in 2023 and 2024 and if no new hires occur in 2025, 2026, 2027 and 2028 solves down the road a big part of huge pension liability cliff coming down the road.

Even if Bernie Sanders wins the Presidency and in 2029 starts hiring like crazy. Those new people are not eligible for pensions for many many years And by firing all the two year probationary people and not hiring for four years that six year gap in people becoming eligible for pensions is critical.

More people on pension will die each year than will be eligible for a new pension for a good 20 years run given Bernie room to hire.

Plus the new hires in 2029-2033 will be younger, smarter, more AI and computer savy. And cheaper to insure and willing to work longer hours as young and dont know better.

At that point the remaining boomers, Genx and Millenials will all quit or retire once in an office of 21-15 year olds.

Were CIA probationaries fired?

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Anonymous wrote:Does probationary mean those under disciplinary action or performance improvement plans in private sector?

THIS is what most americans think when they hear feds on probation which is WHY they dont care.

Yeah I wish they’d say something more like “in their trial period” or “newer hires” so as not to imply any issue with performance. Though we had people who had been at my agency for right under 2 years who were fired— obviously they weren’t really new; attorneys just have longer trial periods.

My husband is probationary at DOD for 2 years. Hes been a fed for 7 years total but transferred agencies. We are waiting for the shoe to drop.

My Dad- a Trumper- was basically like well he does a good job right? then he wont get fired and I was like thats not how this is working. Probationary doesnt mean they suck it means they are new and dont have protections. He just doesnt believe that people who are good workers are getting fired even with me telling him thats the case.... He also thinks that Trump dissolving the DoEd will increase teacher salaries. So yes, its a brainwashed cult.
FYI my dad has absolutely no government experience and my job is funded by healthcare and IT contracts so I am also likely getting canned this year. His response was that I am smart and will be able to find a job quickly because the economy is booming because Trump is in the WH. Or that we should move to NC so I can be a teacher there because salaries are going to increase and ill get summers off.

The trial period in govt in a remote or hybrid job is a lot longer than the past to fully learn a job.

I started a job in Covid fully remote and worked there a little over two year. When I left I was not that valuable to tell the truth.

If they were full time in office, working 50 hours a week in a high profile job I say at two years they be super valuable.

But learning curve in particular in govt is painfully slow.

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Anonymous wrote:Does probationary mean those under disciplinary action or performance improvement plans in private sector?

THIS is what most americans think when they hear feds on probation which is WHY they dont care.

Yeah I wish they’d say something more like “in their trial period” or “newer hires” so as not to imply any issue with performance. Though we had people who had been at my agency for right under 2 years who were fired— obviously they weren’t really new; attorneys just have longer trial periods.

Anonymous wrote:My 40-year-old DH got layoff from the Dept. of VA as a doctor, and he joined the VA less than a year ago. He attended Yale pre-med, Johns Hopkins for medical school, and many years for his medical specialty. He spent three years volunteering for Doctors without Borders. He could have made a lot of money in the private sector, but he chose to work for the VA because he loved this country, and wanted to give back what it had given him as an immigrant from Vietnam. What the Trump administration is doing right now is nothing short of criminal.

I am so sorry. There are many awful stories like this.

Anonymous wrote:It’s the largest layoff in US history - could affect 200,000 employees. The largest to this point was IBM in the 90s that affected around 60,000 people.

That’s alot of people. My dad was impacted by those IBM layoffs. He never really recovered.

I wonder how this will impact local unemployment offices, do they have the funding and resources in place right now to support so many people being let go at one time??

Anonymous wrote:Does probationary mean those under disciplinary action or performance improvement plans in private sector?

THIS is what most americans think when they hear feds on probation which is WHY they dont care.

Anonymous wrote:I heard secondhand that attorneys in the probationary period are exempt from the cuts. Is that correct?

No, only at certain agencies. SEC is the only one I heard this about and even am not sure that’s confirmed. CFPB just fired a ton of newer attorneys earlier this week.

Anonymous wrote:Are they getting rid of DHS probationary employees? Anyone heard anything about what is going on in CISA? One of my besties just started last week.

CISA is on admin leave.

https://www.democracydocket.com/news-alerts/cisa-puts-election-staff-on-administrative-leave/

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Anonymous wrote:Why isn’t this being reported?

And where the eff are the Democrats????

What do you expect them to do to prevent this? Please be specific.

Anonymous wrote:Are they getting rid of DHS probationary employees? Anyone heard anything about what is going on in CISA? One of my besties just started last week.

Don't know, but I pray that DOGE doesn't mess with this critically needed agency.

Are they getting rid of DHS probationary employees? Anyone heard anything about what is going on in CISA? One of my besties just started last week.

Wait until this summer when the national parks and museums in DC are all but closed. Nonessential, after all.