Anonymous
Post 01/23/2025 06:28     Subject: Re:New OPM memo on RTO
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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, just to be clear, I don’t even mind the idea of being in the office so much. I can live with RTO. What is making me absolutely crazy is the hostility. For example, suggesting that we just haven’t been showing up since Covid. First, my office has had some telework for more than 20 years so if we are getting rid of it entirely that’s really taking us back to the dark ages. Second, we’ve had pretty liberal telework since Covid but that’s because the office went through a whole analysis and concluded that’s what made sense and we were told we could telework. We weren’t awol. We were following instructions. So, fine, change the policy but don’t make it sound like we’ve been disobedient children.

Voight says he wants us to feel trauma and well I guess I am. I feel incredibly insulted after working hard for the govt for years.

The crazy thing is that in his testimony last week he praised the civil servants he worked with when he was last at OMB. I totally don’t get why he is making a statement like that on the one hand, and saying he wants to inflict trauma on civil servants on the other.


Yes. It is really sad. I am so sad. I have worked hard for 20 years and to be treated with such utter disrespect and vitriol is awful. We are emergency responders and step up during times of need so this is a really crappy feeling.


I feel the same way.


I’m honestly so sad. Not about RTO. I thought we might be back more even under Harris, but sad about the contempt and ignorance about government and its workers. Are there some duds? Absolutely. I haven’t had to deal with HR much but I understand it’s ridiculous. But I’ve dealt with 100s of agency staff on issues of substance and approx 60 percent are excellent, 20 percent good, 15 fair and maybe 5 percent I think are not good. People work weekends, long hours, on vacation…


Yes we put in long hours. During COVID the crew of us who were online until midnight after our kids went to bed. Coming in to work on holidays because we had briefs due. I've had over a decade straight of Outstanding ratings.


I feel the same as you all. It’s truly the bad apples and our inability to handle them that’s gotten us where we are. I have watched managers handle and try to fire certain employees for years without succeeding. I too have trouble with it.


No, I don't concede that. There could be zero bad apples and they'd still do this. If we were 100% in person they'd do something else. Because the only point is to scapegoat and hobble the government.
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2025 06:28     Subject: New OPM memo on RTO
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Anonymous wrote:You're not legalesing you're way out of this people. It's back to the office. 5 days per week. So many snowflakes when the grocery store worker has to go in everyday or the mechanic fixing your car does too. Big whoop, you have to click a computer mouse for a few hours per day in the office so you can't sleep at home and use time on the clock to babysit your kids. Welcome to the real world like the rest of America.

Aww, are you mad because HQ in St. Petersburg made you RTO?


Nah, you're just butthurt you won't be able to do laundry and bake bread at home while on the clock.

The whining is truly astounding. Feds getting paid $150,000 per year to be chief diversity officers while sitting at home in their jammies baking bread. Meanwhile, the nursing staff during COVID had to work in person during 10 hour shifts. The CNAs making $38,000 per year who have to wipe the arses of you senior parents in the long-term care facility have to go to work every day. Or the teachers making $52,000 per year going into work every day while barely being able to afford rent so they can reach your kids. As if nurses, teachers, and CNAs don't have kids to deal with, chores at home, and commutes to deal with.

Pathetic feds. Get back to work like the rest of America.
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2025 06:26     Subject: New OPM memo on RTO
If people think the government is inefficient now, just wait until the best ones quit. This is wildly short sighted.
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2025 06:23     Subject: New OPM memo on RTO
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Anonymous wrote:I’m really annoyed. If people had just gone in 3 days a week like they wanted us to, I think they wouldn’t have gone to such extremes.


I feel the same.


Yes. I blame Biden. He didn’t come down hard enough. Heck even his own EOP offices were TW more than we were. He let agencies get away with hardly complying with RTO and well here we are.


I agree with this.

Yes something else may have been *done* to make Feds quit/retire, but it probably would have been a lot harder to implement. This one was a gift to the new Administration, and an incredibly easy win.

Anonymous
Post 01/23/2025 06:23     Subject: New OPM memo on RTO
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Anonymous wrote:I’m really annoyed. If people had just gone in 3 days a week like they wanted us to, I think they wouldn’t have gone to such extremes.


I feel the same.


Yes. I blame Biden. He didn’t come down hard enough. Heck even his own EOP offices were TW more than we were. He let agencies get away with hardly complying with RTO and well here we are.


I'm tired of Democrats getting blamed because Republicans are cruel. Republicans have been attacking feds.for decades, Biden isn't responsible for this.



Agree. Plus it isn’t like other sectors aren’t teleworking. I know tons of remote and telework people who work with private companies.


Agree. I will be the only one going in full time. Most of my private sector neighbors cant fathom my current 3 times a week in the office.


Seriously. I am the only person on my street who goes to an office of any kind. Even my Trump supporting neighbor works remotely.
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2025 06:19     Subject: New OPM memo on RTO
It’s not a bad thing this guidance is so draconian.

The crazier the policy is, the more likely it’s ignored.

Federal employees should simply ignore it. They can’t fire millions of employees and have the government function. I know people will say that’s what Trump works, but no he really doesn’t.


Anonymous
Post 01/23/2025 06:18     Subject: New OPM memo on RTO
Anonymous wrote:You're not legalesing you're way out of this people. It's back to the office. 5 days per week. So many snowflakes when the grocery store worker has to go in everyday or the mechanic fixing your car does too. Big whoop, you have to click a computer mouse for a few hours per day in the office so you can't sleep at home and use time on the clock to babysit your kids. Welcome to the real world like the rest of America.

Aww, are you mad because HQ in St. Petersburg made you RTO?
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2025 06:02     Subject: New OPM memo on RTO
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Anonymous wrote:I’m really annoyed. If people had just gone in 3 days a week like they wanted us to, I think they wouldn’t have gone to such extremes.


I feel the same.


Yes. I blame Biden. He didn’t come down hard enough. Heck even his own EOP offices were TW more than we were. He let agencies get away with hardly complying with RTO and well here we are.


I'm tired of Democrats getting blamed because Republicans are cruel. Republicans have been attacking feds.for decades, Biden isn't responsible for this.


Seriously
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2025 05:42     Subject: New OPM memo on RTO
Anonymous wrote:You're not legalesing you're way out of this people. It's back to the office. 5 days per week. So many snowflakes when the grocery store worker has to go in everyday or the mechanic fixing your car does too. Big whoop, you have to click a computer mouse for a few hours per day in the office so you can't sleep at home and use time on the clock to babysit your kids. Welcome to the real world like the rest of America.

You’re pathetic
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2025 05:38     Subject: New OPM memo on RTO
Anonymous wrote:You're not legalesing you're way out of this people. It's back to the office. 5 days per week. So many snowflakes when the grocery store worker has to go in everyday or the mechanic fixing your car does too. Big whoop, you have to click a computer mouse for a few hours per day in the office so you can't sleep at home and use time on the clock to babysit your kids. Welcome to the real world like the rest of America.


Sorry to ruin your party but most of us have union contracts that protect for years to come...and I do not have kids at home. I work.
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2025 05:09     Subject: New OPM memo on RTO
Most of my office are under a Union agreement for 1 day in which has been that way for over 10 years. I am the only one in my project affected by this. I guess I need to go in to work alone the other 4 days?!
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2025 04:43     Subject: New OPM memo on RTO
You're not legalesing you're way out of this people. It's back to the office. 5 days per week. So many snowflakes when the grocery store worker has to go in everyday or the mechanic fixing your car does too. Big whoop, you have to click a computer mouse for a few hours per day in the office so you can't sleep at home and use time on the clock to babysit your kids. Welcome to the real world like the rest of America.
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2025 04:32     Subject: New OPM memo on RTO
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Anonymous wrote:I’m really annoyed. If people had just gone in 3 days a week like they wanted us to, I think they wouldn’t have gone to such extremes.


I feel the same.


Yes. I blame Biden. He didn’t come down hard enough. Heck even his own EOP offices were TW more than we were. He let agencies get away with hardly complying with RTO and well here we are.


Yeah, if Biden had ordered us back five days per week then Trump wouldn’t have been able to do anything. Good thinking PP.


No-had he held agency heads more accountable with enforcing RTO, he wouldn’t have invited the scrutiny that then unfolded in Congress when his cabinet members would testify and could not articulate percentages of staff back in the office and we were slow walking RTO. Returning agencies to 2019 levels maybe would have staved off the scrutiny that then resulted in ridiculous reports like the House oversight report about 6% in person. He let this unravel to the point where Congress got fed up with the non-answers, got into trump’s ear and now this.

It wouldn’t matter. These people don’t act in good faith.
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2025 02:23     Subject: New OPM memo on RTO
Anonymous wrote:I’m really annoyed. If people had just gone in 3 days a week like they wanted us to, I think they wouldn’t have gone to such extremes.


Sure they would have. Trump’s entire thing is go extreme to punish the majority for the doings of a very small minority. It’s all about the show for him.
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2025 01:29     Subject: New OPM memo on RTO
I implore people to not quit but work to rule. The exact rule. Log off and leave your laptops at work.
Take your leave. Go home when you need to.

This is an act to try and reduce the federal work force. Make them fire you or RIF. Resigning is the cheapest way for them.

I have a lot of sick leave as a 14. I’m going to use it. I’m logging off at 4pm and I guess sitting in a conference room without a phone during the day? I’m not using my cellphone for work.

Send me off with a RIF and a severance. Otherwise, I’ll retire in place.