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Anonymous wrote:ECNL in trouble - hilarious statement

Very true. ECNL not in trouble, it’s in big trouble.

🤣🤣🤣 just like tariffs will bring prices down.

Focus please.

I don’t suppose the ECNL players know about TAKA, but the platform is next level. MLSNExt teams are required to submit their Veo and Trace game footage to TAKA within 24 hours.

The platform has video of each club’s game, apply analytics, video clips of each player based on 6 categories, and importantly, has the same for every MLSNext team and provides access as part of the subscription ($11/month). You want to scout the competition? The subscription includes access to every other team’s full game as well as offensive and defensive highlights.

College coaches and scouts also have access—I believe 800 or so, give or take.

Top talent has migrated from ECNL to MLSNext since its inception. Innovative platforms like TAKA help, as do strategic deals like the one announced today.

It’s not IF ECNL is lapped, but WHEN.

It’s just an AI platform DD’s ECNL club provides sane service under different name. All ECNL game film is uploaded to HUDL. Yawn…

Darkhorse is hot garbage. It’s ECNL’s answer to TAKA because the boys side parents demanded something.

The girls side of ECNL doesn’t really want to use analytics because college coaches are dipshits that still largely use the “eye test.” Shoot, I think the girls side only uses the Veo for their highligh / sizzle reals, the boys side does film review. It’s night and day - it shouldn’t be - but girls soccer comes 2nd to boys even at ECNL

Ding ding ding. You just got it. ECNL does what the college coaches want because that is what their base wants. Connect soccer players and college. There is almost no interest in pro, national team, or advancing soccer in the US. Sole mission is to place kids on college teams. That is why anything else will fail.

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL in trouble - hilarious statement

Very true. ECNL not in trouble, it’s in big trouble.

🤣🤣🤣 just like tariffs will bring prices down.

Focus please.

I don’t suppose the ECNL players know about TAKA, but the platform is next level. MLSNExt teams are required to submit their Veo and Trace game footage to TAKA within 24 hours.

The platform has video of each club’s game, apply analytics, video clips of each player based on 6 categories, and importantly, has the same for every MLSNext team and provides access as part of the subscription ($11/month). You want to scout the competition? The subscription includes access to every other team’s full game as well as offensive and defensive highlights.

College coaches and scouts also have access—I believe 800 or so, give or take.

Top talent has migrated from ECNL to MLSNext since its inception. Innovative platforms like TAKA help, as do strategic deals like the one announced today.

It’s not IF ECNL is lapped, but WHEN.

It’s just an AI platform DD’s ECNL club provides sane service under different name. All ECNL game film is uploaded to HUDL. Yawn…

Darkhorse is hot garbage. It’s ECNL’s answer to TAKA because the boys side parents demanded something.

The girls side of ECNL doesn’t really want to use analytics because college coaches are dipshits that still largely use the “eye test.” Shoot, I think the girls side only uses the Veo for their highligh / sizzle reals, the boys side does film review. It’s night and day - it shouldn’t be - but girls soccer comes 2nd to boys even at ECNL

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Anonymous wrote:what does this all mean?

It’s all speculation right now.
Possibilities:

1 - GA can become the pathway to the pros like MLS Next is to MLS

2 - MLS Next tells clubs with ecnl girls/mls next boys to switch the girls to GA if they want to keep mls next

3 - GA/MLS Next combined showcases where recruiters can watch both in one place.

On any given girls ECNL team, how many families do you think are aiming for the pros vs aiming for college? I'd be shocked if it was more than a fraction of 1% aiming to skip college for pros

If a GA team with a path to pro has 15 of the best players in the state, 1 goes pro….where do you think the others go??? Ding ding ding….college.

It’s not just a pathway to the pros. Think a little

Yes but is the program focused on the pros or college? If not focused on college then those girls go ECNL. College cannot be the afterthought.

So how do you explain mls next? There focus is not college but yet still putting more kids in D1 programs then ECNL.

They have legitimate professional academies and the promise of playing and being exposed to academies for non-academy teams. Can the NWSL even afford academies?

No. Not even close. Most of the NWSL owners are rich; not crazy rich which is what that takes. The revenue is not there. Might it be some day? Sure. But we are talking years.

Your information is outdated. Look up who owns these teams now.

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s put things into perspective here.

Let’s look at SD Surf. Great ECNL program on the boys and girls side. Dominant.

New MLS club down the road, SD FC. Surely they will have a SD FC academy that plays in MLS Next. Guess where SD Surfs best boys will go?

Now, what if MLS Next says hey SD Surf..you can keep all your kids if you go MLS Next/GA.
Oh and by the way, If the girls go GA, that will be the feeder team to SD Wave.

See how that works

Except is does not because most of the girls on Surf are not going to want to go to SD Wave or pro anywhere. SD Surf has a Sophie's choice. Lose the boys or lose the girls. Same as Arlington. They can't go MLSN. Hurts their boys program. They made the choice to stay top on the girls' side. That is the same choice 90% of clubs would make.

Pathway to the pros is not a selling point on the girls side. It is college placement. In your example you would be offering nothing because their top girls that want to go pro already have a pathway.

Because it hasn’t been an option in the past. When DA was around they had it all wrong.

Why would one turn down
a chance to play on a pro academy
A chance to play against top teams and international academies
A chance to go pro
A chance to still go to college if you don’t want to go pro
You still get to play high school

Women’s soccer is growing at a fast rate.

Girls go pro out of ECNL now.

And this is BY aligned so it’s possible at ECNL now. But If ECNL changes to SY or GY then they’ll be saying goodbye to all their strongest players since this better path will now exist for the best players.

BY or SY won't matter.

What will matter is if MLSN and GA can convince top players to join their academy teams.

NWSL just needs to implement a homegrown rule and everything will fall into place.

What about the USL-W (which DOES have teams seemingly associated with current NWSL clubs -- Racing Louisville and NC Courage, for example) and USL-Academy fit? Why not that pathway?

We'll see how long this lasts.

And speaking of NC Courage, yes, they have a USL-W U23 team. ... But their youth academy team? That's ECNL. Same for Racing Louisville's.

Honest questions, why would NWSL teams that have academies want to move from ECNL to GA? Why would NWSL care what league their academies are in or whether it is BY or SY? Seems they would only want to be in the top league regardless.

Acadamies are more than just "free soccer" where only the best advance to the next level. The players are also under contract with a certain Club and when if they move up to the next club up the food chain they pay the lover level club for developing them.

What ends up happening is against true Acadamies Pay to Play can't compete. If they do happen to compete the Acadamy will recruit all their players with free soccer and $$$.

So your saying NWSL academies will stay ECNL and shun GA?

That wouldn't work because the only way to play against the top Academy teams would be if players were under contract themselves. (Ie part of MLSN or soon GA)

But a PP said NWSL academies are already in ECNL, it's working.

That was not a true statement.

If not true, explain this ... https://www.ncfcyouth.com/girls-academy

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s put things into perspective here.

Let’s look at SD Surf. Great ECNL program on the boys and girls side. Dominant.

New MLS club down the road, SD FC. Surely they will have a SD FC academy that plays in MLS Next. Guess where SD Surfs best boys will go?

Now, what if MLS Next says hey SD Surf..you can keep all your kids if you go MLS Next/GA.
Oh and by the way, If the girls go GA, that will be the feeder team to SD Wave.

See how that works

Except is does not because most of the girls on Surf are not going to want to go to SD Wave or pro anywhere. SD Surf has a Sophie's choice. Lose the boys or lose the girls. Same as Arlington. They can't go MLSN. Hurts their boys program. They made the choice to stay top on the girls' side. That is the same choice 90% of clubs would make.

Pathway to the pros is not a selling point on the girls side. It is college placement. In your example you would be offering nothing because their top girls that want to go pro already have a pathway.

Because it hasn’t been an option in the past. When DA was around they had it all wrong.

Why would one turn down
a chance to play on a pro academy
A chance to play against top teams and international academies
A chance to go pro
A chance to still go to college if you don’t want to go pro
You still get to play high school

Women’s soccer is growing at a fast rate.

Girls go pro out of ECNL now.

And this is BY aligned so it’s possible at ECNL now. But If ECNL changes to SY or GY then they’ll be saying goodbye to all their strongest players since this better path will now exist for the best players.

BY or SY won't matter.

What will matter is if MLSN and GA can convince top players to join their academy teams.

NWSL just needs to implement a homegrown rule and everything will fall into place.

What about the USL-W (which DOES have teams seemingly associated with current NWSL clubs -- Racing Louisville and NC Courage, for example) and USL-Academy fit? Why not that pathway?

We'll see how long this lasts.

And speaking of NC Courage, yes, they have a USL-W U23 team. ... But their youth academy team? That's ECNL. Same for Racing Louisville's.

Honest questions, why would NWSL teams that have academies want to move from ECNL to GA? Why would NWSL care what league their academies are in or whether it is BY or SY? Seems they would only want to be in the top league regardless.

Acadamies are more than just "free soccer" where only the best advance to the next level. The players are also under contract with a certain Club and when if they move up to the next club up the food chain they pay the lover level club for developing them.

What ends up happening is against true Acadamies Pay to Play can't compete. If they do happen to compete the Acadamy will recruit all their players with free soccer and $$$.

So your saying NWSL academies will stay ECNL and shun GA?

That wouldn't work because the only way to play against the top Academy teams would be if players were under contract themselves. (Ie part of MLSN or soon GA)

But a PP said NWSL academies are already in ECNL, it's working.

That was not a true statement.

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL in trouble - hilarious statement

Very true. ECNL not in trouble, it’s in big trouble.

🤣🤣🤣 just like tariffs will bring prices down.

Focus please.

I don’t suppose the ECNL players know about TAKA, but the platform is next level. MLSNExt teams are required to submit their Veo and Trace game footage to TAKA within 24 hours.

The platform has video of each club’s game, apply analytics, video clips of each player based on 6 categories, and importantly, has the same for every MLSNext team and provides access as part of the subscription ($11/month). You want to scout the competition? The subscription includes access to every other team’s full game as well as offensive and defensive highlights.

College coaches and scouts also have access—I believe 800 or so, give or take.

Top talent has migrated from ECNL to MLSNext since its inception. Innovative platforms like TAKA help, as do strategic deals like the one announced today.

It’s not IF ECNL is lapped, but WHEN.

It’s just an AI platform DD’s ECNL club provides sane service under different name. All ECNL game film is uploaded to HUDL. Yawn…

Darkhorse is hot garbage. It’s ECNL’s answer to TAKA because the boys side parents demanded something.

The girls side of ECNL doesn’t really want to use analytics because college coaches are dipshits that still largely use the “eye test.” Shoot, I think the girls side only uses the Veo for their highligh / sizzle reals, the boys side does film review. It’s night and day - it shouldn’t be - but girls soccer comes 2nd to boys even at ECNL

DD’s ECNL team does weekly film review. Yawn…

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL in trouble - hilarious statement

Very true. ECNL not in trouble, it’s in big trouble.

🤣🤣🤣 just like tariffs will bring prices down.

Focus please.

I don’t suppose the ECNL players know about TAKA, but the platform is next level. MLSNExt teams are required to submit their Veo and Trace game footage to TAKA within 24 hours.

The platform has video of each club’s game, apply analytics, video clips of each player based on 6 categories, and importantly, has the same for every MLSNext team and provides access as part of the subscription ($11/month). You want to scout the competition? The subscription includes access to every other team’s full game as well as offensive and defensive highlights.

College coaches and scouts also have access—I believe 800 or so, give or take.

Top talent has migrated from ECNL to MLSNext since its inception. Innovative platforms like TAKA help, as do strategic deals like the one announced today.

It’s not IF ECNL is lapped, but WHEN.

It’s just an AI platform DD’s ECNL club provides sane service under different name. All ECNL game film is uploaded to HUDL. Yawn…

Darkhorse is hot garbage. It’s ECNL’s answer to TAKA because the boys side parents demanded something.

The girls side of ECNL doesn’t really want to use analytics because college coaches are dipshits that still largely use the “eye test.” Shoot, I think the girls side only uses the Veo for their highligh / sizzle reals, the boys side does film review. It’s night and day - it shouldn’t be - but girls soccer comes 2nd to boys even at ECNL

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL in trouble - hilarious statement

Very true. ECNL not in trouble, it’s in big trouble.

🤣🤣🤣 just like tariffs will bring prices down.

Focus please.

I don’t suppose the ECNL players know about TAKA, but the platform is next level. MLSNExt teams are required to submit their Veo and Trace game footage to TAKA within 24 hours.

The platform has video of each club’s game, apply analytics, video clips of each player based on 6 categories, and importantly, has the same for every MLSNext team and provides access as part of the subscription ($11/month). You want to scout the competition? The subscription includes access to every other team’s full game as well as offensive and defensive highlights.

College coaches and scouts also have access—I believe 800 or so, give or take.

Top talent has migrated from ECNL to MLSNext since its inception. Innovative platforms like TAKA help, as do strategic deals like the one announced today.

It’s not IF ECNL is lapped, but WHEN.

It’s just an AI platform DD’s ECNL club provides sane service under different name. All ECNL game film is uploaded to HUDL. Yawn…

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL in trouble - hilarious statement

Very true. ECNL not in trouble, it’s in big trouble.

🤣🤣🤣 just like tariffs will bring prices down.

Focus please.

I don’t suppose the ECNL players know about TAKA, but the platform is next level. MLSNExt teams are required to submit their Veo and Trace game footage to TAKA within 24 hours.

The platform has video of each club’s game, apply analytics, video clips of each player based on 6 categories, and importantly, has the same for every MLSNext team and provides access as part of the subscription ($11/month). You want to scout the competition? The subscription includes access to every other team’s full game as well as offensive and defensive highlights.

College coaches and scouts also have access—I believe 800 or so, give or take.

Top talent has migrated from ECNL to MLSNext since its inception. Innovative platforms like TAKA help, as do strategic deals like the one announced today.

It’s not IF ECNL is lapped, but WHEN.

It’s just an AI platform DD’s ECNL club provides sane service under different name. All ECNL game film is uploaded to HUDL. Yawn…

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL in trouble - hilarious statement

Very true. ECNL not in trouble, it’s in big trouble.

🤣🤣🤣 just like tariffs will bring prices down.

Focus please.

I don’t suppose the ECNL players know about TAKA, but the platform is next level. MLSNExt teams are required to submit their Veo and Trace game footage to TAKA within 24 hours.

The platform has video of each club’s game, apply analytics, video clips of each player based on 6 categories, and importantly, has the same for every MLSNext team and provides access as part of the subscription ($11/month). You want to scout the competition? The subscription includes access to every other team’s full game as well as offensive and defensive highlights.

College coaches and scouts also have access—I believe 800 or so, give or take.

Top talent has migrated from ECNL to MLSNext since its inception. Innovative platforms like TAKA help, as do strategic deals like the one announced today.

It’s not IF ECNL is lapped, but WHEN.

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL in trouble - hilarious statement

Very true. ECNL not in trouble, it’s in big trouble.

🤣🤣🤣 just like tariffs will bring prices down.

Focus please.

I don’t suppose the ECNL players know about TAKA, but the platform is next level. MLSNExt teams are required to submit their Veo and Trace game footage to TAKA within 24 hours.

The platform has video of each club’s game, apply analytics, video clips of each player based on 6 categories, and importantly, has the same for every MLSNext team and provides access as part of the subscription ($11/month). You want to scout the competition? The subscription includes access to every other team’s full game as well as offensive and defensive highlights.

College coaches and scouts also have access—I believe 800 or so, give or take.

Yawn- Nothing new here. Taka isn't the only AI analytics horse in town. Our ECNL club provides free access to similar platform that analyzes stats against 12 criteria, pulls out video, compares players to team and across teams etc etc etc....It's just AI...not some revolutionary thing MLS N is doing that others aren't.


Top talent has migrated from ECNL to MLSNext since its inception. Innovative platforms like TAKA help, as do strategic deals like the one announced today.

It’s not IF ECNL is lapped, but WHEN.

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL in trouble - hilarious statement

Very true. ECNL not in trouble, it’s in big trouble.

🤣🤣🤣 just like tariffs will bring prices down.

Focus please.

I don’t suppose the ECNL players know about TAKA, but the platform is next level. MLSNExt teams are required to submit their Veo and Trace game footage to TAKA within 24 hours.

The platform has video of each club’s game, apply analytics, video clips of each player based on 6 categories, and importantly, has the same for every MLSNext team and provides access as part of the subscription ($11/month). You want to scout the competition? The subscription includes access to every other team’s full game as well as offensive and defensive highlights.

Yawn- ECNL uses a similar platform where veo is submitted and analyzed, stats popped out, 6 clips put forwrad. TAKA isn't the only AI horse in town. Many of these platforms are selling to youth sports. We get it free with our ECNL club.

College coaches and scouts also have access—I believe 800 or so, give or take.

Top talent has migrated from ECNL to MLSNext since its inception. Innovative platforms like TAKA help, as do strategic deals like the one announced today.

It’s not IF ECNL is lapped, but WHEN.

It's not the boys side. Parents of girls are not going to go under contract -- except for the few that could go pro.

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Anonymous wrote:what does this all mean?

It’s all speculation right now.
Possibilities:

1 - GA can become the pathway to the pros like MLS Next is to MLS

2 - MLS Next tells clubs with ecnl girls/mls next boys to switch the girls to GA if they want to keep mls next

3 - GA/MLS Next combined showcases where recruiters can watch both in one place.

On any given girls ECNL team, how many families do you think are aiming for the pros vs aiming for college? I'd be shocked if it was more than a fraction of 1% aiming to skip college for pros

If a GA team with a path to pro has 15 of the best players in the state, 1 goes pro….where do you think the others go??? Ding ding ding….college.

It’s not just a pathway to the pros. Think a little

Yes but is the program focused on the pros or college? If not focused on college then those girls go ECNL. College cannot be the afterthought.

So how do you explain mls next? There focus is not college but yet still putting more kids in D1 programs then ECNL.

They have legitimate professional academies and the promise of playing and being exposed to academies for non-academy teams. Can the NWSL even afford academies?

No. Not even close. Most of the NWSL owners are rich; not crazy rich which is what that takes. The revenue is not there. Might it be some day? Sure. But we are talking years.