Anonymous
Post 11/06/2024 14:57     Subject: Who gets mass deported?

Anonymous wrote:The cheaper software engineers will remain. The cheap construction workers will stay. The cheap maids will stay. The cheap farmers will stay.

The criminals will be gone? But are they the one writing C++ code at 50% discount? Are they they ones replacing the shingles on your roof? Nope. These will stay. And guess what? You will still compete for jobs with them.


Why do you think Big tech venture capitalists gave him a lot of money ? lmao. It amazes me how people on the lower economic scale can easily be duped.
Anonymous
Post 11/06/2024 14:52     Subject: Who gets mass deported?

My best guess is all of the illegal immigrants who are here waiting for their hearings will be deported. Those who are caught coming over the border will be sent back and not given the opportunity to declare health issue. No one really knows about illegals until they try to rent an apartment or work under the table at a pizza shop. I assume there would be ramifications for those who employ or rent to them. I really don’t know how else they’d be deported
Anonymous
Post 11/06/2024 14:50     Subject: Who gets mass deported?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:First they will stop the CPB One app and the parole process. That will reduce new immigrants by millions.

Then they will stop moving to dismiss cases in immigration courts, and remove the judges who rubber stamp this.

Not clear if they can reverse decisions already made, reopen cases, or speed up the open cases that have dates years in the future.

Checking against Social Security records will find millions who are working while illegal.


If they are illegal they don’t have a social security number to pay FICA. And probably being paid under the table.


They steal children's SSNs, use dead people's or make up random numbers.


BS!


they absolutely steal SS#- i had a background check to volunteer at my kid's school and some dude with a hispanic name was using my SS#. I am so stressed out about it.
Anonymous
Post 11/06/2024 14:45     Subject: Who gets mass deported?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The cheaper software engineers will remain. The cheap construction workers will stay. The cheap maids will stay. The cheap farmers will stay.

The criminals will be gone? But are they the one writing C++ code at 50% discount? Are they they ones replacing the shingles on your roof? Nope. These will stay. And guess what? You will still compete for jobs with them.


If all these people stay then how do you deport 20 million per their promise ? Illegal immigrants with criminal records represent such a tiny portion that I'm not sure if this fits with the promise of all out deportation


When has Trump kept promises?
Anonymous
Post 11/06/2024 14:42     Subject: Who gets mass deported?

Anonymous wrote:The cheaper software engineers will remain. The cheap construction workers will stay. The cheap maids will stay. The cheap farmers will stay.

The criminals will be gone? But are they the one writing C++ code at 50% discount? Are they they ones replacing the shingles on your roof? Nope. These will stay. And guess what? You will still compete for jobs with them.


If all these people stay then how do you deport 20 million per their promise ? Illegal immigrants with criminal records represent such a tiny portion that I'm not sure if this fits with the promise of all out deportation
Anonymous
Post 11/06/2024 14:41     Subject: Who gets mass deported?

I said in another thread they can start with anyone who cares more about Gaza or Israel than their own country.
Anonymous
Post 11/06/2024 14:40     Subject: Who gets mass deported?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They’ll remove citizenship from anyone with a parent that wasn’t born here.


Is that both parents or only one? If its both then pretty sure that removes citizenship for Baron.


it removes it for Trump too- his mom was an immigrant from Scotland, hes a 2nd gen. His dad is a 2nd gen as well. Obama is more american. Trumps grandparenst were migrants or foreign, Obamas great grandparemst were from Kansas.
Anonymous
Post 11/06/2024 14:35     Subject: Who gets mass deported?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:people need to start reporting criminals and illegals in their community and there has to be some kind of small reward. That's the only way this would work.


Law enforcement already know these people. No need to report to them. They are the criminals who have been arrested and let off over and over.


seriously- are you expecting us to belive that we have illegals pouring through the border, god knows who and we havent had a single terrorsist attack since then? Nope the powers that be know where and who is here illegally, they just let them stay and that is SO So unfair to people who waited decades to come here legally and worked so hard. Come on- MS -13 is all over the place, why are they still here?? get rid of em. The influx of poorly integrated and illegal migrants is bad for other immigranst as well b/c we all get lumped in together.
Anonymous
Post 11/06/2024 14:32     Subject: Who gets mass deported?

Just saw this :
“ his team is also considering withholding federal police grants from local law enforcement agencies that decline to take part in the deportations.“
Anonymous
Post 11/06/2024 14:25     Subject: Who gets mass deported?

The cheaper software engineers will remain. The cheap construction workers will stay. The cheap maids will stay. The cheap farmers will stay.

The criminals will be gone? But are they the one writing C++ code at 50% discount? Are they they ones replacing the shingles on your roof? Nope. These will stay. And guess what? You will still compete for jobs with them.
Anonymous
Post 11/06/2024 14:23     Subject: Who gets mass deported?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They just need to make it illegal at the federal level for their kids to enroll in any schools here, and illegal at the federal level for them to receive any benefits whatsoever, and some of them will start to deport themselves for us.

I hope it becomes possible somehow for us to stop birthright citizenship. That will remove a lot of the incentive. I believe the constitution is not as clear about this as some people think, since it assumes those people were legal immigrants who come here. In any case, I hope we could get the votes now to change that (even if it’s a specific voting question during the next election).



Birthright citizenship is in the constitution


thats actually debatable- many originalists, like the Justices on the Supreme Court, believe that the 14th amendmnet was wrongly interpreted b/c it was in the best interest of the robber Barons to have a large immigrant workforce, we needed more immigrants to accomplish our Manifest Destiny. There is an argument to be made that the authors of the 14th amendment only meant birthright for the desendants of slaves and free white men. the 14th amendment granted birtright citzenship right away to the masses of immigrants that were coming in at that time but it was never granted to Mexican and Hispanic americans who lived in the border states and many who had american passports were deported to Mexico.

Britain got rid of birthright citzenship - they had granted citizenship to many people from the commenwealth countries rigt after independence so were working from the same fears. They didnt apply it retroactively even though even more than americans you can prove your ethnic heritage is English, Welsh, Scottish. They can also repeal the Immigration act of 1965 and retroactively repeal anyone's citizenship who came then i guess. that is my nightmare scenario b/c then i'll only have a useless pakistano passport. maybne time to buy property in greece and get a EU citizenship. Maybe they'll allow a golden visa type situation for the Sundar Pichais and Satya Nadellas but Bannon wants them gone.



We aren’t Britain and our country was founded on immigration.
Anonymous
Post 11/06/2024 14:21     Subject: Who gets mass deported?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They just need to make it illegal at the federal level for their kids to enroll in any schools here, and illegal at the federal level for them to receive any benefits whatsoever, and some of them will start to deport themselves for us.

I hope it becomes possible somehow for us to stop birthright citizenship. That will remove a lot of the incentive. I believe the constitution is not as clear about this as some people think, since it assumes those people were legal immigrants who come here. In any case, I hope we could get the votes now to change that (even if it’s a specific voting question during the next election).



Birthright citizenship is in the constitution


thats actually debatable- many originalists, like the Justices on the Supreme Court, believe that the 14th amendmnet was wrongly interpreted b/c it was in the best interest of the robber Barons to have a large immigrant workforce, we needed more immigrants to accomplish our Manifest Destiny. There is an argument to be made that the authors of the 14th amendment only meant birthright for the desendants of slaves and free white men. the 14th amendment granted birtright citzenship right away to the masses of immigrants that were coming in at that time but it was never granted to Mexican and Hispanic americans who lived in the border states and many who had american passports were deported to Mexico.

Britain got rid of birthright citzenship - they had granted citizenship to many people from the commenwealth countries rigt after independence so were working from the same fears. They didnt apply it retroactively even though even more than americans you can prove your ethnic heritage is English, Welsh, Scottish. They can also repeal the Immigration act of 1965 and retroactively repeal anyone's citizenship who came then i guess. that is my nightmare scenario b/c then i'll only have a useless pakistano passport. maybne time to buy property in greece and get a EU citizenship. Maybe they'll allow a golden visa type situation for the Sundar Pichais and Satya Nadellas but Bannon wants them gone.
Anonymous
Post 11/06/2024 14:12     Subject: Who gets mass deported?

No one is getting deported.
Anonymous
Post 11/06/2024 14:10     Subject: Re:Who gets mass deported?

Probably nobody. Who will be the enforcers? Who to deport? Our factory workers? Our farm workers? Our food production plant workers? The guy mowing my lawn? The person who cleans your house? And leave their leases unpaid?
The economy would tank.
Anonymous
Post 11/06/2024 14:07     Subject: Re:Who gets mass deported?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Don't know. Don't care. Don't want them here.

Our education system will be SO much stronger without them and having to devote 90% of our resources to ELL/ESL programs.


As a public elementary school teacher I can assure you that FAR more resources go into dealing with "ADHD" and other "disabilities" that are just caused by screen addiction and horrific lack of parenting. Our one school has 2 EL teachers and 9 (NINE) special education teachers and teaching assistants working with these students in Gen Ed classrooms (I'm not even counting the sped teachers that work in self contained programs.)


Stop spewing ignorance about disabled kids. You are not a psychiatrist.


NP. Stop spewing ignorance about ESL kids. Kids with adhd are far more disruptive. I stand by PP’s assessment. Many of my classmates were ESL. The ADHD kid was the problem.


Former ESL teacher, totally agree. ESL kids were not generally the big disrupters. Those were almost always plain old American born ADHD and emotionally disturbed kids. Plenty were white, too, although usually poor.