Anonymous
12/05/2024 08:12
Subject: Re:Volleyball tryouts in real time
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If anyone's looking for a home still Vienna Elite has a new 15s/16s green team, no tryouts needed..like a step ahead from rec but not competitive as club. Some players from tryouts that got no offers for an OG team got an offer for green team. DD declined their offer.
https://www.viennaelite.org/page/show/8839548-u15-u16-green-team
This must be a joke: $2,200 for one practice per week and one tournament per month? Jeez!
That’s really not a bad deal for northern Virginia.
I know someone on one of their new teams this year and they were pretty happy with the opportunity and it’s going really well. They didn’t want a lot of the out of town tournaments and like the practice schedule and cost.
It's actually a really bad deal for northern Virginia. It suggests that club prices need to be high because you can only get one practice per week and one tournament per month for $2,200. You do the math and conclude that two practices per week and two tournaments per month must be at least $4,400. It's ok if you are fine giving them this much money, but I am not buying the idea of the green team being "not a bad deal."
What club are you at? 2 practices a week with 2 tournaments a month for $4400 would be a good deal in northern Virginia.
Anonymous
12/05/2024 06:01
Subject: Re:Volleyball tryouts in real time
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If anyone's looking for a home still Vienna Elite has a new 15s/16s green team, no tryouts needed..like a step ahead from rec but not competitive as club. Some players from tryouts that got no offers for an OG team got an offer for green team. DD declined their offer.
https://www.viennaelite.org/page/show/8839548-u15-u16-green-team
This must be a joke: $2,200 for one practice per week and one tournament per month? Jeez!
That’s really not a bad deal for northern Virginia.
I know someone on one of their new teams this year and they were pretty happy with the opportunity and it’s going really well. They didn’t want a lot of the out of town tournaments and like the practice schedule and cost.
It's actually a really bad deal for northern Virginia. It suggests that club prices need to be high because you can only get one practice per week and one tournament per month for $2,200. You do the math and conclude that two practices per week and two tournaments per month must be at least $4,400. It's ok if you are fine giving them this much money, but I am not buying the idea of the green team being "not a bad deal."
NP and can you post alternatives for girls who don’t make teams? I don’t see any. My DD was lucky and made a team this year but we don’t know what next year will bring. She’s on a team that’s not her top choice and we are paying a lot for it. It was her only option. I think it’s good clubs have options like this. Where can you pay under 2k for anything that’s not rec?
Anonymous
12/04/2024 16:39
Subject: Re:Volleyball tryouts in real time
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If anyone's looking for a home still Vienna Elite has a new 15s/16s green team, no tryouts needed..like a step ahead from rec but not competitive as club. Some players from tryouts that got no offers for an OG team got an offer for green team. DD declined their offer.
https://www.viennaelite.org/page/show/8839548-u15-u16-green-team
This must be a joke: $2,200 for one practice per week and one tournament per month? Jeez!
That’s really not a bad deal for northern Virginia.
I know someone on one of their new teams this year and they were pretty happy with the opportunity and it’s going really well. They didn’t want a lot of the out of town tournaments and like the practice schedule and cost.
It's actually a really bad deal for northern Virginia. It suggests that club prices need to be high because you can only get one practice per week and one tournament per month for $2,200. You do the math and conclude that two practices per week and two tournaments per month must be at least $4,400. It's ok if you are fine giving them this much money, but I am not buying the idea of the green team being "not a bad deal."
Anonymous
12/04/2024 10:30
Subject: Re:Volleyball tryouts in real time
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If anyone's looking for a home still Vienna Elite has a new 15s/16s green team, no tryouts needed..like a step ahead from rec but not competitive as club. Some players from tryouts that got no offers for an OG team got an offer for green team. DD declined their offer.
https://www.viennaelite.org/page/show/8839548-u15-u16-green-team
This must be a joke: $2,200 for one practice per week and one tournament per month? Jeez!
That’s really not a bad deal for northern Virginia.
I know someone on one of their new teams this year and they were pretty happy with the opportunity and it’s going really well. They didn’t want a lot of the out of town tournaments and like the practice schedule and cost.
Anonymous
12/04/2024 10:08
Subject: Re:Volleyball tryouts in real time
Anonymous wrote:If anyone's looking for a home still Vienna Elite has a new 15s/16s green team, no tryouts needed..like a step ahead from rec but not competitive as club. Some players from tryouts that got no offers for an OG team got an offer for green team. DD declined their offer.
https://www.viennaelite.org/page/show/8839548-u15-u16-green-team
This must be a joke: $2,200 for one practice per week and one tournament per month? Jeez!
Anonymous
12/03/2024 21:53
Subject: Re:Volleyball tryouts in real time
If anyone's looking for a home still Vienna Elite has a new 15s/16s green team, no tryouts needed..like a step ahead from rec but not competitive as club. Some players from tryouts that got no offers for an OG team got an offer for green team. DD declined their offer.
Anonymous
11/07/2024 12:23
Subject: Volleyball tryouts in real time
Vienna Elite also doesn’t go to the Capitol Hill classic and instead for some odd reason sends all its teams to Orlando - also crazy expensive for flights and hotels over Presidents’ Day weekend where - again- they just aren’t competitive against powerhouse Florida and southern teams like IMG. It is a nice community and culture and some of the coaches are good. But others are mediocre. I get the sense it’s the country-club-set volleyball club for girls with money but who maybe can’t find a better option or get on a better team? My DD went to their tryouts and was not impressed. She said they were slow-paced, chaotic, many of girls weren’t great players, but seemed to already have been selected. Coaches were pulling girls after to try to recruit for invite clinics but they weren’t that great. DD got an offer, but opted to go elsewhere after seeing the tournament schedule, checking rankings, and then considering cost. I agree with PP - a good option for folks with money and no other options.
Anonymous
11/07/2024 12:20
Subject: Volleyball tryouts in real time
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:U16 player - has played two years of club, HS, been to multiple club clinics with good feedback. She tried out for four clubs between Friday and Saturday (including her former club) and doesn’t have any offers. She’s confused and upset going into Sundays tryouts for her final “backup” clubs. Does anyone have any words of wisdom or success stories? I don’t know how to stay positive for her bc She’s been working so hard all Fall and this process is causing so much stress. It seems like there is no loyalty in clubs whatsoever and in the mob of 100+ girls she just can’t stand out.
This is kind of amusing. Where is the loyalty from the club as my kid tries out for other clubs. Loyalty is kind of a 2 way street.
Talk about amusing?! If you have been around long enough (as in, maybe a year) you have learned that there is no loyalty ever. All families need a contingency plan - bc they have watched disasters happen over and over. It always starts with the Club being nontransparent. Not the family.
Yes. Amusing. And my DD has already gone through and is out of the process so I am well aware of how it works. And generally, the kids switching are at the back half of the roster.
Anonymous
11/07/2024 11:57
Subject: Volleyball tryouts in real time
Anonymous wrote:Vienna Elite has jumped the shark and become a total cash cow. They have Vienna Elite with 3-4 teams per age group. They have DMV Elite with several teams. And they have DMV Academy in Maryland with several teams but look at ALL of their AES power rankings! It’s a mediocre club if you look at rankings - last year their top “open level” teams were not even in the top 50 in the region and were hammered by the second and third level regional teams in the area like Mojo, American, etc (also not very great). Vienna is also crazy expensive - over $6500 plus travel expenses to play truly open level teams. DMV Elite is over $7000 and is ranked maybe in the top 40 in CHRVA. DMV Academy also expensive. So it’s great they are starting this Grey team that’s a hybrid but $3000k for that? Honestly, based on rankings some other clubs regional teams are less expensive and perform way better! Last year some of the Metro regional teams were ranked 14th-20th in CHRVA while Vienna was like 50-70th across all age groups. Vienna has seemed to maximize cash flow with little result.
DMV Academy costs $4500 per season, which is way more expensive than all the MD clubs I can think of. I was not sure why anyone would join their club, but I figured it out this season. One of my DD's friends could not make any other club and ended up at DMV. Mind you, she was not a bad player, but I think she screwed up her tryout strategy.
Anonymous
11/07/2024 11:44
Subject: Volleyball tryouts in real time
Vienna Elite has jumped the shark and become a total cash cow. They have Vienna Elite with 3-4 teams per age group. They have DMV Elite with several teams. And they have DMV Academy in Maryland with several teams but look at ALL of their AES power rankings! It’s a mediocre club if you look at rankings - last year their top “open level” teams were not even in the top 50 in the region and were hammered by the second and third level regional teams in the area like Mojo, American, etc (also not very great). Vienna is also crazy expensive - over $6500 plus travel expenses to play truly open level teams. DMV Elite is over $7000 and is ranked maybe in the top 40 in CHRVA. DMV Academy also expensive. So it’s great they are starting this Grey team that’s a hybrid but $3000k for that? Honestly, based on rankings some other clubs regional teams are less expensive and perform way better! Last year some of the Metro regional teams were ranked 14th-20th in CHRVA while Vienna was like 50-70th across all age groups. Vienna has seemed to maximize cash flow with little result.
Anonymous
11/07/2024 10:42
Subject: Volleyball tryouts in real time
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Vienna Elite just announced a new “gray team” for 15/16s who want to play a step above rec but who didn’t make any travel club teams. Tryouts are tomorrow. There will be “rotating coaches” and 9 girls age 15 and 9 girls age 16. All will practice together.
Not sure what to think of this.
That’s actually very creative and a great way for your DD to have a team, gain experience and skills, and yes—a money grab if sorts BUT it’s better than being without a team, so I’d prob give it a try
I think of money grab as something a bit different.
When Tae Kwon Do schools have a belt test every month where you get a mini stripe on your belt and you need three stripes to go from white to yellow. That's a money grab.
Opening up a 7PM TKD class that will be taught by whoever happens to be available that evening because all the other sessions are full seems like they are just trying to meet demand.
When a travel team requires you to buy a membership to the coach's batting facility, that seems like a money grab.
When the travel team forms another team because 50 kids showed up to tryouts and you could only take 4, that seems like you are meeting demand.
This feels a lot more like "meeting demand" than a money grab.
Anonymous
11/06/2024 21:24
Subject: Volleyball tryouts in real time
Anonymous wrote:Vienna Elite just announced a new “gray team” for 15/16s who want to play a step above rec but who didn’t make any travel club teams. Tryouts are tomorrow. There will be “rotating coaches” and 9 girls age 15 and 9 girls age 16. All will practice together.
Not sure what to think of this.
That’s actually very creative and a great way for your DD to have a team, gain experience and skills, and yes—a money grab if sorts BUT it’s better than being without a team, so I’d prob give it a try
Anonymous
11/06/2024 21:07
Subject: Volleyball tryouts in real time
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:U16 player - has played two years of club, HS, been to multiple club clinics with good feedback. She tried out for four clubs between Friday and Saturday (including her former club) and doesn’t have any offers. She’s confused and upset going into Sundays tryouts for her final “backup” clubs. Does anyone have any words of wisdom or success stories? I don’t know how to stay positive for her bc She’s been working so hard all Fall and this process is causing so much stress. It seems like there is no loyalty in clubs whatsoever and in the mob of 100+ girls she just can’t stand out.
This is kind of amusing. Where is the loyalty from the club as my kid tries out for other clubs. Loyalty is kind of a 2 way street.
Talk about amusing?! If you have been around long enough (as in, maybe a year) you have learned that there is no loyalty ever. All families need a contingency plan - bc they have watched disasters happen over and over. It always starts with the Club being nontransparent. Not the family.
Yep. Two years of club and we saw a girl experience this.
Anonymous
11/06/2024 20:37
Subject: Volleyball tryouts in real time
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:U16 player - has played two years of club, HS, been to multiple club clinics with good feedback. She tried out for four clubs between Friday and Saturday (including her former club) and doesn’t have any offers. She’s confused and upset going into Sundays tryouts for her final “backup” clubs. Does anyone have any words of wisdom or success stories? I don’t know how to stay positive for her bc She’s been working so hard all Fall and this process is causing so much stress. It seems like there is no loyalty in clubs whatsoever and in the mob of 100+ girls she just can’t stand out.
This is kind of amusing. Where is the loyalty from the club as my kid tries out for other clubs. Loyalty is kind of a 2 way street.
Talk about amusing?! If you have been around long enough (as in, maybe a year) you have learned that there is no loyalty ever. All families need a contingency plan - bc they have watched disasters happen over and over. It always starts with the Club being nontransparent. Not the family.
Anonymous
11/06/2024 15:40
Subject: Volleyball tryouts in real time
Anonymous wrote:will rosters for most clubs be posted online?
Most will … eventually. Some of it depends on parents affiliating CHRVA membership with the club, which some people seem to drag their feet on.