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Anonymous wrote:Divorced women in their 40s seem to be doing better in the dating market. Why are they having more success compared to divorced men the same age. They have the same challenges to deal with kids, child support, life stressors, body image, aging insecurity to name a few. However it seems that many divorced men in their 40s are really struggling to find dates.

It's because women have vaginas. That's it. Nothing more.

Vaginas will always be a hotter commodity than penises are.

And thank God when desperate we can rent one and enjoy. And with more and more women going into sex work it's even easier to get laid.

Good for you!

However...divorced women in their 40s are doing better than their male counterparts in the dating scene. I bet they don't have to pay for sex to get laid!

Of course they are doing better because they are less likely to come across men of all ages who want to marry. Divorced men in their 40s if they choose to date women in their 30s they have to take into account that this age group has a high number of never married and/or women who want to have children. Divorced women in their 40s are desirable of course, but they are also far less likely to have the same pressure with men in their 30s wanting to marry them. Whether you think it's fair or not most men in their 30s who want to have children are not going to look for women in their 40s.

Anonymous wrote:50s man here. I totally disagree with the men who say women in their 40s aren't hot. Many are. I think this now. I thought this twenty years ago.

Unfortunately, women in their 50s tend to look a little dried out and masculine to me, especially white women. So most of what the harsh men said here about women in their 40s seems kinda true to me for women in their 50s. Sometimes the same woman can look MUCH different as she goes from age 49 to age 51.

This isn't about how good the actual sex is. Women in their 50s and 60s can be fantastic sexually. I just don't look forward to it as much, for some reason.

If other men in their 50s feel the way I do about women in their 50s, then women in their 40s are going to get plenty of attention from men their own age and men a decade or more older.

How does this affect people who only want committed, LTRs? Not sure.

and how do we think 50 year old men look … ?

Anonymous wrote:50s man here. I totally disagree with the men who say women in their 40s aren't hot. Many are. I think this now. I thought this twenty years ago.

Unfortunately, women in their 50s tend to look a little dried out and masculine to me, especially white women. So most of what the harsh men said here about women in their 40s seems kinda true to me for women in their 50s. Sometimes the same woman can look MUCH different as she goes from age 49 to age 51.

This isn't about how good the actual sex is. Women in their 50s and 60s can be fantastic sexually. I just don't look forward to it as much, for some reason.

If other men in their 50s feel the way I do about women in their 50s, then women in their 40s are going to get plenty of attention from men their own age and men a decade or more older.

How does this affect people who only want committed, LTRs? Not sure.

And hence divorced women in the 40s are getting attention from younger men, men their own age and older men. May the best man win!

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Anonymous wrote:Divorced women in their 40s seem to be doing better in the dating market. Why are they having more success compared to divorced men the same age. They have the same challenges to deal with kids, child support, life stressors, body image, aging insecurity to name a few. However it seems that many divorced men in their 40s are really struggling to find dates.

It's because women have vaginas. That's it. Nothing more.

Vaginas will always be a hotter commodity than penises are.

And thank God when desperate we can rent one and enjoy. And with more and more women going into sex work it's even easier to get laid.

Good for you!

However...divorced women in their 40s are doing better than their male counterparts in the dating scene. I bet they don't have to pay for sex to get laid!

50s man here. I totally disagree with the men who say women in their 40s aren't hot. Many are. I think this now. I thought this twenty years ago.

Unfortunately, women in their 50s tend to look a little dried out and masculine to me, especially white women. So most of what the harsh men said here about women in their 40s seems kinda true to me for women in their 50s. Sometimes the same woman can look MUCH different as she goes from age 49 to age 51.

This isn't about how good the actual sex is. Women in their 50s and 60s can be fantastic sexually. I just don't look forward to it as much, for some reason.

If other men in their 50s feel the way I do about women in their 50s, then women in their 40s are going to get plenty of attention from men their own age and men a decade or more older.

How does this affect people who only want committed, LTRs? Not sure.

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Anonymous wrote:Ultimately, it's a supply and demand issue. And the lack of quality men of all ages is warping the market. It's not just men in their 40s and 50s. It's that a lot of young men are checked out from life - professionally, socially, fitness-wise. So that men who do have it together, whether they are 25 or 45, have an incredibly easy time finding dates and partners of all ages. Observationally, watching my single friends, it's the good looking men with great jobs that have a disproportionate amount of power in modern relationship dynamics. For every man who has it together, there are 20 wonderful, beautiful, smart, and kind women who really want to meet him. It's far easier for men these days. The competition for the good ones is fierce. I see it extending down all the way to the college level.

You are falsely assuming that young women who are looking for marriage and children value the same men that older divorced women who already have children do. It's not the same market. There is some overlap, but it's not entirely the same.

I know a late 40s acquaintance who is sleeping with a 20 something year old gym instructor. Were she younger and looking for marriage and children, she wouldn't go anywhere near him.

But she is looking for a good time with someone easy on the eyes. It works for both of them.

That's true. I have a 48 year old very attractive friend who does this. When she's in the mood, she just shows up at the pickle ball court or the college bar and goes home with whoever catches her eye. Women who want one night stands will always have an easier time of it. She certainly doesn't care about their professional prospects. She'd never date them, but that's not what she's looking for.

Does she actually have sex? Its rare for menopausal women to want to do it with me

Fixed it for you.

OMG - This freakin’ made my day!

Signed,
50 year old woman who is super horny

Menopause often brings changes in women’s sexual desire and physical comfort due to declining estrogen, leading to issues like vaginal dryness and reduced libido. For many women, sex becomes less appealing or more difficult post-menopause, though some find ways to manage these symptoms with hormone therapy or lubricants. However, for others, the natural decline in sexual interest can feel like a shift in priorities.

On the other hand, men generally do not experience the same significant hormonal changes as they age. As long as they don’t suffer from erectile dysfunction (and with the availability of treatments like Viagra), many men maintain their sexual interest into their later years. This can sometimes lead to a mismatch in desires between partners, with older men often seeking relationships with younger women, particularly those under 40, who haven’t gone through menopause and may have a more consistent libido. This dynamic can contribute to the pursuit of younger partners by older men, especially when sexual compatibility becomes an issue with their age-group peers.

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Anonymous wrote:40s. widowed for 15+yrs. never remarried. single dad of two teens/almost adults.

I've been OLDing for 13+yrs with no intent to remarry (always upfront about that) as being a single dad to couple of toddlers was my biggest priority for over a decade.

When I was in my mid-late 30s I dated 20s-30s.

Now approaching 50 I still date the same age range.

I've tried to and honestly had scores (maybe hundreds) of first dates with 40+ women but 99% are just unattractive. even if they have work done and keep a gym rat toned body. they will never compare to 20s to early 30s.

I think a women's beauty and sexual worth falls off a HUGE cliff by mid-late 30s and no amount of botox can fix it.

someone pointed out JLO and Shakira but even those top 0.01% hot 40+ women can't keep their men interested.

curious I am recently divorced and will join OLD soon. I am 46. I wouldn't mind dating a 30 years old. But waht would a 30 years do with a 46 years old divorced man with kids that is available to her only 2 days a week max??

she’d either a) be expecting marriage and kids with you or b) mentally unstable enough that she’s willing to date you even though you don’t offer a real relationship.

depending on how good looking, charmlng and/or rich you are, maybe you could finagle a series of 6-week long non-exclusive “relationship” with these women until they figure it out, as one PP does, but that sounds kind of stressful and pathetic.

Anonymous wrote:40s. widowed for 15+yrs. never remarried. single dad of two teens/almost adults.

I've been OLDing for 13+yrs with no intent to remarry (always upfront about that) as being a single dad to couple of toddlers was my biggest priority for over a decade.

When I was in my mid-late 30s I dated 20s-30s.

Now approaching 50 I still date the same age range.

I've tried to and honestly had scores (maybe hundreds) of first dates with 40+ women but 99% are just unattractive. even if they have work done and keep a gym rat toned body. they will never compare to 20s to early 30s.

I think a women's beauty and sexual worth falls off a HUGE cliff by mid-late 30s and no amount of botox can fix it.

someone pointed out JLO and Shakira but even those top 0.01% hot 40+ women can't keep their men interested.

doesn’t sound like you’re a success story if you’re dating “scores” of age inappropriate women and don’t have the self-knowledge to see it.

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Anonymous wrote:Ultimately, it's a supply and demand issue. And the lack of quality men of all ages is warping the market. It's not just men in their 40s and 50s. It's that a lot of young men are checked out from life - professionally, socially, fitness-wise. So that men who do have it together, whether they are 25 or 45, have an incredibly easy time finding dates and partners of all ages. Observationally, watching my single friends, it's the good looking men with great jobs that have a disproportionate amount of power in modern relationship dynamics. For every man who has it together, there are 20 wonderful, beautiful, smart, and kind women who really want to meet him. It's far easier for men these days. The competition for the good ones is fierce. I see it extending down all the way to the college level.

You are falsely assuming that young women who are looking for marriage and children value the same men that older divorced women who already have children do. It's not the same market. There is some overlap, but it's not entirely the same.

I know a late 40s acquaintance who is sleeping with a 20 something year old gym instructor. Were she younger and looking for marriage and children, she wouldn't go anywhere near him.

But she is looking for a good time with someone easy on the eyes. It works for both of them.

That's true. I have a 48 year old very attractive friend who does this. When she's in the mood, she just shows up at the pickle ball court or the college bar and goes home with whoever catches her eye. Women who want one night stands will always have an easier time of it. She certainly doesn't care about their professional prospects. She'd never date them, but that's not what she's looking for.

Does she actually have sex? Its rare for menopausal women to want to do it with me

Fixed it for you.

OMG - This freakin’ made my day!

Signed,
50 year old woman who is super horny

Menopause often brings changes in women’s sexual desire and physical comfort due to declining estrogen, leading to issues like vaginal dryness and reduced libido. For many women, sex becomes less appealing or more difficult post-menopause, though some find ways to manage these symptoms with hormone therapy or lubricants. However, for others, the natural decline in sexual interest can feel like a shift in priorities.

On the other hand, men generally do not experience the same significant hormonal changes as they age. As long as they don’t suffer from erectile dysfunction (and with the availability of treatments like Viagra), many men maintain their sexual interest into their later years. This can sometimes lead to a mismatch in desires between partners, with older men often seeking relationships with younger women, particularly those under 40, who haven’t gone through menopause and may have a more consistent libido. This dynamic can contribute to the pursuit of younger partners by older men, especially when sexual compatibility becomes an issue with their age-group peers.

The physical changes are easy to fix with vaginal estrogen. For women, libido tends to be much more mental.

Unfortunately it’s not true that men don’t go through substantial and significant changes. Once a man hits 40, it is much more difficult for the blood to flow in his p$nis as it did when he was younger. It’s harder for I’m to get and stay hard. Viagra can help this but should be used somewhat sparingly given in rare cases it can cause permanent blindness. It’s safe, but I wouldn’t pop it every day or week.

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Anonymous wrote:Divorced women in their 40s seem to be doing better in the dating market. Why are they having more success compared to divorced men the same age. They have the same challenges to deal with kids, child support, life stressors, body image, aging insecurity to name a few. However it seems that many divorced men in their 40s are really struggling to find dates.

It's because women have vaginas. That's it. Nothing more.

Vaginas will always be a hotter commodity than penises are.

And thank God when desperate we can rent one and enjoy. And with more and more women going into sex work it's even easier to get laid.

Spot on. And without all that baggage and nonsense that comes along with it.

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Anonymous wrote:Ultimately, it's a supply and demand issue. And the lack of quality men of all ages is warping the market. It's not just men in their 40s and 50s. It's that a lot of young men are checked out from life - professionally, socially, fitness-wise. So that men who do have it together, whether they are 25 or 45, have an incredibly easy time finding dates and partners of all ages. Observationally, watching my single friends, it's the good looking men with great jobs that have a disproportionate amount of power in modern relationship dynamics. For every man who has it together, there are 20 wonderful, beautiful, smart, and kind women who really want to meet him. It's far easier for men these days. The competition for the good ones is fierce. I see it extending down all the way to the college level.

You are falsely assuming that young women who are looking for marriage and children value the same men that older divorced women who already have children do. It's not the same market. There is some overlap, but it's not entirely the same.

I know a late 40s acquaintance who is sleeping with a 20 something year old gym instructor. Were she younger and looking for marriage and children, she wouldn't go anywhere near him.

But she is looking for a good time with someone easy on the eyes. It works for both of them.

That's true. I have a 48 year old very attractive friend who does this. When she's in the mood, she just shows up at the pickle ball court or the college bar and goes home with whoever catches her eye. Women who want one night stands will always have an easier time of it. She certainly doesn't care about their professional prospects. She'd never date them, but that's not what she's looking for.

Does she actually have sex? Its rare for menopausal women to want to do it with me

Fixed it for you.

OMG - This freakin’ made my day!

Signed,
50 year old woman who is super horny

Menopause often brings changes in women’s sexual desire and physical comfort due to declining estrogen, leading to issues like vaginal dryness and reduced libido. For many women, sex becomes less appealing or more difficult post-menopause, though some find ways to manage these symptoms with hormone therapy or lubricants. However, for others, the natural decline in sexual interest can feel like a shift in priorities.

On the other hand, men generally do not experience the same significant hormonal changes as they age. As long as they don’t suffer from erectile dysfunction (and with the availability of treatments like Viagra), many men maintain their sexual interest into their later years. This can sometimes lead to a mismatch in desires between partners, with older men often seeking relationships with younger women, particularly those under 40, who haven’t gone through menopause and may have a more consistent libido. This dynamic can contribute to the pursuit of younger partners by older men, especially when sexual compatibility becomes an issue with their age-group peers.

Thank you for the informative post. Everything you said is true as I am living it with my wife. We are both 60. For us sex isn't the priority these days but we do make sure to have it sometimes. And it's especially important for me because my wife even though she isn't always telling me (I can read her mind after being married 30 years) now more than ever she wants me to show her that I still desire her. And I do. PIV can be painful..but we found a routine for us that does not always involve PIV. And I also don't take Viagra Everytime because sometimes I feel like my wife is disappointed that she isn't satisfying me fully. But in my eyes she is.

The only men that are old as f**k and obsess over younger women are men who got dumped by their wives and are now seeking to be relevant again. Let's be honest for a a man in his late 40s to 50s to be attractive in the eyes of younger women he needs to bring a LOT to the table.

Women at any age aren't the easiest to please. And I don't say this in a bad way. What I mean is that you truly need to show them concretely that you care about them. And the you her they are the more emotions they have and the harder you need to work .

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Anonymous wrote:Divorced women in their 40s seem to be doing better in the dating market. Why are they having more success compared to divorced men the same age. They have the same challenges to deal with kids, child support, life stressors, body image, aging insecurity to name a few. However it seems that many divorced men in their 40s are really struggling to find dates.

It's because women have vaginas. That's it. Nothing more.

Vaginas will always be a hotter commodity than penises are.

And thank God when desperate we can rent one and enjoy. And with more and more women going into sex work it's even easier to get laid.

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Anonymous wrote:Divorced women in their 40s seem to be doing better in the dating market. Why are they having more success compared to divorced men the same age. They have the same challenges to deal with kids, child support, life stressors, body image, aging insecurity to name a few. However it seems that many divorced men in their 40s are really struggling to find dates.

It's because women have vaginas. That's it. Nothing more.

Vaginas will always be a hotter commodity than penises are.

Anonymous wrote:Divorced women in their 40s seem to be doing better in the dating market. Why are they having more success compared to divorced men the same age. They have the same challenges to deal with kids, child support, life stressors, body image, aging insecurity to name a few. However it seems that many divorced men in their 40s are really struggling to find dates.

It's because women have vaginas. That's it. Nothing more.

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Anonymous wrote:Ultimately, it's a supply and demand issue. And the lack of quality men of all ages is warping the market. It's not just men in their 40s and 50s. It's that a lot of young men are checked out from life - professionally, socially, fitness-wise. So that men who do have it together, whether they are 25 or 45, have an incredibly easy time finding dates and partners of all ages. Observationally, watching my single friends, it's the good looking men with great jobs that have a disproportionate amount of power in modern relationship dynamics. For every man who has it together, there are 20 wonderful, beautiful, smart, and kind women who really want to meet him. It's far easier for men these days. The competition for the good ones is fierce. I see it extending down all the way to the college level.

You are falsely assuming that young women who are looking for marriage and children value the same men that older divorced women who already have children do. It's not the same market. There is some overlap, but it's not entirely the same.

I know a late 40s acquaintance who is sleeping with a 20 something year old gym instructor. Were she younger and looking for marriage and children, she wouldn't go anywhere near him.

But she is looking for a good time with someone easy on the eyes. It works for both of them.

That's true. I have a 48 year old very attractive friend who does this. When she's in the mood, she just shows up at the pickle ball court or the college bar and goes home with whoever catches her eye. Women who want one night stands will always have an easier time of it. She certainly doesn't care about their professional prospects. She'd never date them, but that's not what she's looking for.

Does she actually have sex? Its rare for menopausal women to want to do it with me

Fixed it for you.

OMG - This freakin’ made my day!

Signed,
50 year old woman who is super horny

Menopause often brings changes in women’s sexual desire and physical comfort due to declining estrogen, leading to issues like vaginal dryness and reduced libido. For many women, sex becomes less appealing or more difficult post-menopause, though some find ways to manage these symptoms with hormone therapy or lubricants. However, for others, the natural decline in sexual interest can feel like a shift in priorities.

On the other hand, men generally do not experience the same significant hormonal changes as they age. As long as they don’t suffer from erectile dysfunction (and with the availability of treatments like Viagra), many men maintain their sexual interest into their later years. This can sometimes lead to a mismatch in desires between partners, with older men often seeking relationships with younger women, particularly those under 40, who haven’t gone through menopause and may have a more consistent libido. This dynamic can contribute to the pursuit of younger partners by older men, especially when sexual compatibility becomes an issue with their age-group peers.